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Re: Jumbo Icing Car At El Paso
What’s the tripod on #60’s roof for?
Thanks! -- Brian Ehni From: STMFC List <STMFC@...> on behalf of STMFC List <STMFC@...> Reply-To: STMFC List <STMFC@...> Date: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 12:52 PM To: STMFC List <STMFC@...> Subject: Re: [STMFC] Jumbo Icing Car At El Paso Thanks for posting the El Paso yard photo. Brings back memories. I may have even worked #60 around that time. Looks like one of El Paso’s dust storms may have been going on. Charlie From: thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:21 PM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Jumbo Icing Car At El Paso Here is a link to a photo from the Cornell University Library Digital Collections: https://digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/ss:20988414 Scroll over the photo to enlarge it. On the right in this photo is a partial view of the "Jumbo Car" used to ice express reefers at the El Paso passenger depot: This home-built car is seen in better detail on Page 326 of the PFE book. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: GM&O 26300-26999 series info help
Donald Ford <ford.donald77@...>
Tim Thanks Don Ford Cameron Missouri
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Re: Jumbo Icing Car At El Paso
Charles Morrill
Thanks for posting the El Paso yard photo. Brings back
memories. I may have even worked #60 around that time. Looks like
one of El Paso’s dust storms may have been going on.
Charlie
From: thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:21 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Jumbo Icing Car At El Paso
Here is a link to a photo from the Cornell University Library Digital Collections:
https://digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/ss:20988414
Scroll over the photo to enlarge it.
On the right in this photo is a partial view of the "Jumbo Car" used to ice express reefers at the El Paso passenger depot:
This home-built car is seen in better detail on Page 326 of the PFE book.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Jumbo Icing Car At El Paso
thecitrusbelt@...
Here is a link to a photo from the Cornell University Library Digital Collections:
https://digital.library.cornell.edu/catalog/ss:20988414
Scroll over the photo to enlarge it.
On the right in this photo is a partial view of the "Jumbo Car" used to ice express reefers at the El Paso passenger depot:
This home-built car is seen in better detail on Page 326 of the PFE book.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: West India Fruit Boxcar In Southern Calif.
Bill Welch
XM boxcars traveled everywhere. A model of this car is now available from Yarmouth with decals for either a BCR or Green paint scheme.
Bill Welch
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Re: Bob's Photos at the Big E
Bill Welch
ASFAIK Earl Bob's does not have an email address. The only thing on his current business card is his phone number in Kentucky: 606.845.3323.
Bill Welch
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West India Fruit Boxcar In Southern Calif.
thecitrusbelt@...
Here is a link to a photo from the Cornell University Library Digital Collections:
https://digital.library..cornell.edu/catalog/ss:20988463
Scroll over the photo to enlarge it.
When I first saw this photo I focused on the eight-hatch Canadian Pacific refrigerator car. From what I understand the presence of such cars in Southern California was not all that unusual.
What I missed and sharp-eyed John Peckham saw was the West India Fruit boxcar just ahead of the two tank cars.
Would these boxcars have been frequent visitors to the West Coast?
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA
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Re: Bob's Photos at the Big E
william darnaby
We go to Cocoa early to enjoy some Florida sun but got cold horizontal rain
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instead this year. On that Wednesday, looking for some physical activity, I saw Bob checking in and asked if he needed help. I got my workout unloading his truck and assisting in setting up his room. Those cases are incredibly heavy. He told me the story of his troubles with the Springfield meet and that he will, indeed, be there this year but set up in the hotel across the street per usual. Oh yes, I got a jar of Swedish grog out of the deal. Bill Darnaby
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From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:10 AM To: STMFC@... Subject: [STMFC] Bob's Photos at the Big E Can anyone tell me if/where Bob Liljestrand will be at the upcoming show in West Springfield, MA? Can anyone share his current email address? TIA, Earl Tuson ------------------------------------ Posted by: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Earl=20Tuson?=" <etuson@...> ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links
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Re: GM&O 26300-26999 series info help
Don
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The cars were REPAINTED bright red with the wing scheme. As originally painted, the cars had very spartan lettering. I have an ACF builder's photo. I only have post-1960 photos of the 245xx cars - green paint, no wings, large DF. Tim
Going thru some old kit that have been in storage came a upon a CB&T car #26451 with the broken wing scheme - foobe or not?
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Re: Frisco Boxcar 163270
Dennis, a good shot of one of the steel sheathed 10'6" cars with an open door shows a wood lining. Tim O'Connor
That was pretty common on single sheathed cars built in the late twenties; the last couple series of Soo Line cars have that also. Instead of triangular gussets between the posts and plate, the band of steel, which was relatively thick, 1/4" or so, formed a continuous gusset. Since it was heavier than the steel the Frisco used to sheath the rest of the side, it was left in place during the re-build.
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Re: DT&I 50' Round Roof Auto Parts Boxcar
Don Burn
Jerry,
RPC23 has an article that covers those cars.
Don Burn
From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:19 AM To: Steam Era Freight Cars Subject: [STMFC] DT&I 50' Round Roof Auto Parts Boxcar
A recent post by Tony Thompson <http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2018/01/auto-industry-traffic-part-4-model-cars.html> reminded me that I have the same referenced HO scale DT&I 50' auto parts car (very early Athearn wood and metal model) that I would like to repair, make some basic improvements to and place into service on my layout. I reviewed Ted's Focus on Freight Cars Volume 5 and did not see any photos of this particular DT&I car although there were several photos of very similar PRR cars. Could someone point me towards a prototype photo of the DT&I car or would I be OK using the PRR photos as guides for placement of grabs, retainer valve, cut levers and general car end details? Thanks, Jerry Breon Mooresville, NC
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DT&I 50' Round Roof Auto Parts Boxcar
Jerry Breon
A recent post by Tony Thompson <http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/2018/01/auto-industry-traffic-part-4-model-cars.html> reminded me that I have the same referenced HO scale DT&I 50' auto parts car (very early Athearn wood and metal model) that I would like to repair, make some basic improvements to and place into service on my layout. I reviewed Ted's Focus on Freight Cars Volume 5 and did not see any photos of this particular DT&I car although there were several photos of very similar PRR cars. Could someone point me towards a prototype photo of the DT&I car or would I be OK using the PRR photos as guides for placement of grabs, retainer valve, cut levers and general car end details? Thanks, Jerry Breon Mooresville, NC
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Re: Bob's Photos at the Big E
Earl
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He takes a room at the hotel across the street. Tim O'Connor
Can anyone tell me if/where Bob Liljestrand will be at the upcoming show in West Springfield, MA?
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Re: Another up for bid
Clark Propst
Is the load removable?
Schuyler Yes. Clark
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Bob's Photos at the Big E
Earl Tuson
Can anyone tell me if/where Bob Liljestrand will be at the upcoming show in West Springfield, MA?
Can anyone share his current email address? TIA, Earl Tuson
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Re: Interesting Rock Island salt car
Tony Thompson
Jerry Michels wrote:
Interesting comment, since Don Snoddy, then director of the UP Museum, told me that upon taking possession of MP offices everywhere, most records had been removed and could "not be located." Seems odd that UP people could ransack offices while they still belonged to MP. Don's charter was to identify and preserve MP records, but found awfully few remaining. Incidentally, Don was also in charge of the same job when the SP takeover occurred, and he said relatively few things were missing. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Interesting Rock Island salt car
Jerry Michels
As a complete aside. These mines, as they were mined out, were used to store many corporate records in the event of a nuclear attack. The Missouri Pacific corporate records are/were stored there. I was privileged to visit them for three days in the 1980s when working on my caboose book and before lawyers got in on the act and closed access to the records because of the employee records stored there. Tons of corporate records for the Mopac and most if not all of its predecessor and merged lines, and even full erection diagrams for MoPac steam locomotives stored in aluminum tubes. Considering some of the higher-ups in the UP freely pilfered company records after the merger, I doubt they still exist 1000 feet underground in Hutchinson.. Jerry Michels
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Re: GM&O 26300-26999 series info help
Donald Ford <ford.donald77@...>
Thanks Ed Don Ford Cameron Missouri
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Re: GM&O 26300-26999 series info help
Ed Hawkins
On Jan 15, 2018, at 9:25 PM, ford.donald77@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:
GM&O 26300-26999: 700 cars, built ca. 12-52 by ACF, lot no. 3663. Postwar 40’-6” AAR box cars with 10-panel riveted sides, 6’ door openings, 4-5-5 Improved Youngstown doors, 1948-1954 version Improved Dreadnaught ends, diagonal panel roof, Ajax (first 300) & Miner (last 400) hand brakes, Kerrigan running boards & brake steps, A-3 Ride Control trucks. These cars are listed on the appropriate roster of cars with similar features downloadable on the STMFC web site. Paint specs from the ACF bill of materials: Freight car red - sides; black car cement - ends, roof, u/f; black - brake parts, trucks; white - side stencils; aluminum - end stencils. The 24579 is likely beyond the scope of this forum. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: Frisco Boxcar 163270
Dennis Storzek
---In STMFC@..., <timboconnor@...> wrote : Those Howe truss cars were THE signature car of the SLSF for many years. An interesting feature of the wood sheathed cars was that the top 12" or so (probably more) of the side sheathing was originally steel. So when they were rebuilt (over 90 still in service in 1972) only the lower part of the sides needed to be replaced, leaving a horizontal seam about 5/6 of the way up the side. Tim O'Connor ======================= That was pretty common on single sheathed cars built in the late twenties; the last couple series of Soo Line cars have that also. Instead of triangular gussets between the posts and plate, the band of steel, which was relatively thick, 1/4" or so, formed a continuous gusset. Since it was heavier than the steel the Frisco used to sheath the rest of the side, it was left in place during the re-build. I wonder how the Frisco handled the lining on these rebuilds, or if they are bare steel inside? Dennis Storzek
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