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Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

A&Y Dave in MD
 

I store my bottles inside a large plastic pill bottle (90 day supply with non-childproof cap so it's easy to open). I put 1/2 inch of Drierite in bottom, then in goes the ACC bottle, then cap pill container. I carry that in my toolbox and store it on my workbench with no problems.

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Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

frograbbit602
 

I use several ACC types: Zap thin (pink label) and gel (green label) which I keep in a large plastic pill bottle with cover. Inside the pill bottle drier packets fill the space around the two Zap bottles. Since I began using this method I have been able to use the entire bottle no matter what length of time to do so. I also use Loctite thin (red label) and thick (blue label) which just set on the work bench with no problem using the entire bottle from start to finish. Just as a side note: I find the Zap seems to set slower as it ages so to have it set as if a new bottle I place five drops of Zap in a water bottle cap and add a two or three drops of Loctite thin. The water bottle cap with this amount of ACC will last several hours on the workbench before setting up.
Lester Breuer

New mini-kit and another new part from Resin Car Works

Eric Hansmann
 

The Resin Car Works minions are keeping busy with two more new products. A mini-kit and another part are now available. Check out the latest blog post for more details@

http://blog.resincarworks.com/new-resin-car-works-products/

 

 

Eric Hansmann

RCW web guy

 

 

Re: Dates for Script and Brush Dixieland on NC&StL box cars

Bill Welch
 

NC&StL cars tended to be an Oxide version of BCR. Be aware the NC&StL cars all had Hutchins roofs.

Bill Welch

Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

John Sykes III
 

Ditto here for Loctite.  I don't have to worry about storage, because I use it up too fast!

-- John

Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

Lee Thwaits
 

Another vote for Loctite Super Glue!

Lee Thwaits

Dates for Script and Brush Dixieland on NC&StL box cars

John Barry
 





With the release of the the Accurail 36' Fowler Boxcars, including part 1159 decorated for NC&StL, I have a question as to correct paint & lettering for my modeled era of December 1944.  The data sheet produced by Ray Breyer found at http://designbuildop.hansmanns.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/accurail_data_1150series.pdf shows photos of two versions of the car near my time frame:  XM27 NC&StL 15377 with AB brakes and a reweigh date of NE 4-45 with a Brush style? (slanted all cap san serif block letters) DIXIELAND and a Soapbar style NC&StL logo in rather worn paint next to XM28 NC&StL 16453 in much fresher paint with K brakes and a reweigh of NE 10-40 with a script Dixieland and octagonal Dixie Line logo.  

As there were 943 XM27 and 471 XM28 listed in the Jan 45 ORER, when did each of the schemes come into effect on the NC&StL?  The photos are B&W, but appear to be overall Box Car Red, including the roofs and trucks.  Can you confirm the colors?
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

Craig Zeni
 

On Jan 28, 2018, at 6:03 AM, STMFC@... wrote:

4a. How Do You Store Your ACC?
Posted by: thecitrusbelt@... thecitrusbelt
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:44 pm ((PST))




As most of you know, ACC ("super glue") is very sensitive to moisture. If stored in the open, even with the cap on, enough moisture will be drawn in to activate the ACC and harden it in the container. I've had this happen more than a few times, especially with the larger containers of ACC in gel form.



I've heard of modelers storing ACC in a sealed bag in the freezer compartment of a refrigerator as one way to prevent spoilage. I assume this works.



And I know some modelers just buy the very small tubes and assume they will harden before they can be completely used.



What methods do you use to store and preserve ACC?
I use the Cypox products and its bottle seems to seal extremely well. What I have I've been for over 18 months and it has not thickened or gone off at all. Not refrigerated or anything special....just sits in a plastic drawer that's translucent but out of direct hard light.


Craig Zeni
Cary NC

New eBay listing

Clark Propst
 

Re: [resinfreightcars] Madden Insulated 8k-gal Tank Car Body FS

Brent Greer
 

Hi John, I'll take it if it's still available.

Brent
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Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 6:03:12 AM
To: Yahoogroups; resinfreightcars@...
Subject: [resinfreightcars] Madden Insulated 8k-gal Tank Car Body FS
 
 

Gentlemen,
I have a Tom Madden tank car body FS--the "Insulated ICC-104 8,000-gal, ACF Type 27" model.  This is the resin tank car shell with dome only.  Asking $15 plus add $2 to help me with shipping.  If interested please contact me offline at Golden1014@....
 
John Golden
Albersbach, Germany

2018 St. Louis RPM: 20-21 July in Collinsville, Illinois http://icg.home.mindspring.com/rpm/stlrpm.htm
RPM Blog: https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/

Re: Width over side sheets for CNW/CMO USRA DS rebuilds

Benjamin Scanlon
 

Gday Norman

The width over side sheets is the one i'm interested in because in TT scale I've got a 1932 ARA/AAR car and a 1937 AAR ... and its easy to measure width over side sheets on an existing model .. so I just want to know how wide a model of the CNW/RI rebuild ought to be relative to those.  

I'll have a look at finding the Shake N Take group. 

Cheers, Ben Scanlon


Madden Insulated 8k-gal Tank Car Body FS

golden1014
 

Gentlemen,
I have a Tom Madden tank car body FS--the "Insulated ICC-104 8,000-gal, ACF Type 27" model.  This is the resin tank car shell with dome only.  Asking $15 plus add $2 to help me with shipping.  If interested please contact me offline at Golden1014@....
 
John Golden
Albersbach, Germany

2018 St. Louis RPM: 20-21 July in Collinsville, Illinois http://icg.home.mindspring.com/rpm/stlrpm.htm
RPM Blog: https://railroadprototypemodeler.wordpress.com/

Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

Garth Groff or Sally Sanford <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Most cyanoacrylites will keep for years in the refrigerator. I have some Fletchtight archery adhesive that is over 11 years old and is still liquid. It has been stored in the basement refrigerator. Obviously I don't use this stuff often.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

On 1/27/18 10:43 PM, 'Doug Harding' doug.harding@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

I’ll second the recommendation for Loctite brand. I’ve had a bottle on the workbench for over a year. It has not turned solid, nor has it clogged. The first bottle of ACC that I can remember not turning solid. It helps to keep humidity under control. In the summer I run a dehumidifier in the basement and central air, but I live in the Midwest where humidity can get well over 90% in the summer, and down to single digits in the winter. Which is why I am amazed at how long the bottle of Loctite ACC has lasted. Used it to repair a loose part on a steam era freight car just two weeks ago, which survived the latest op session with no further issues.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

Re: Width over side sheets for CNW/CMO USRA DS rebuilds

Greg Martin
 

Ben and all,

I think I can answer many of Ben's questions after all the research for SHAKE-N-TAKE© in 2014 .

BTW Ben Homm has the second hand rebuilds pretty well covered. I will see what I can add.

In context

Eventually all things merge into one and a river runs through it.
Norman Maclean



Ben Scalon comments:

"Believe from an earlier comment that I cannot find (Yahoo Groups search capacity not being what it was) that many USRA DS rebuilds were taken out to the width of a 1932 ARA/AAR boxcar, so that would be taking the inside width from 8'9" (??) to 9'4", IIRC."

The inside width of the CNW/RI design was 9' 2-1/16"

The width over the side sills was 8' 6-5/8" 

The width over the Upper and Lower Eves was (up) 10' 4-1/16" (lower) 10' 4-3/8"

 

I try not to make generalizations,  there were many commonalities but as much alike they all differed.  

It depends on the era they were rebuilt. There was variation and lots of roads rebuilt USRA DS and USRA SS freight cars. I find them all interesting.

 

Martin Lofton's article in RMC ids a good starting point , certainly only scratches the surface.

 

"However, I am unsure of the width over side sheets?"

 

I am not sure why this would be important? If you are scratch building you might need to know the thicknesses of the material overlapping the side sheathing. There are several 1937 AAR 10' IH  cars in good condition at he railway/ trolley museum that might help for those rebuilt later to '37 spec's like the Santa Fe cars.  

"Further, does anyone know what the width over side sheets (or at least inside width, if that is unknown) was for the C&NW/CMO cars? These were CNW 65000-67418 and CMO 36100-37098"

 

If you were to join the SHAKE-N-TAKE Yahoo Group most of this would be easily sovled as we did the car at Cocoa Beach in 2014 and followed along after the event. The data we accumulated was generously shared for free and with the Sunshine kit long go this is a great way to model several variations of the car. I still have ends and sills for the CNW/CMO/RI cars. We improved the side sheathing that was wrong on other offerings as well.   

 

"As the CNW rebuilds were done between 1937-40 and the last 200 for the Omaha Road were rebuilt in 1941, I'm wondering if they took the car out to the same width as the then current 1937 AAR boxcar?  

Regards

Ben Scanlon"

Yes Ben but not exactly. Sign on and Feed You Head.

 

 

 


Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

Douglas Harding
 

I’ll second the recommendation for Loctite brand. I’ve had a bottle on the workbench for over a year. It has not turned solid, nor has it clogged. The first bottle of ACC that I can remember not turning solid. It helps to keep humidity under control. In the summer I run a dehumidifier in the basement and central air, but I live in the Midwest where humidity can get well over 90% in the summer, and down to single digits in the winter. Which is why I am amazed at how long the bottle of Loctite ACC has lasted. Used it to repair a loose part on a steam era freight car just two weeks ago, which survived the latest op session with no further issues.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 8:53 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

 

 

Have you checked websites like Loctite for storage suggestions Bob?

 

Bill Welch

Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

My ACC is on the bench, no special precautions, and it lasts a long enough time – months – that I’m not distressed if I have to buy some more.



Schuyler



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 8:44 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] How Do You Store Your ACC?





As most of you know, ACC ("super glue") is very sensitive to moisture. If stored in the open, even with the cap on, enough moisture will be drawn in to activate the ACC and harden it in the container. I've had this happen more than a few times, especially with the larger containers of ACC in gel form.



I've heard of modelers storing ACC in a sealed bag in the freezer compartment of a refrigerator as one way to prevent spoilage. I assume this works.



And I know some modelers just buy the very small tubes and assume they will harden before they can be completely used.



What methods do you use to store and preserve ACC?



Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA





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Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

Bill Welch
 

Have you checked websites like Loctite for storage suggestions Bob?

Bill Welch

Re: How Do You Store Your ACC?

al_brown03
 

I store ACC in a Mason jar containing desiccant. 

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

How Do You Store Your ACC?

thecitrusbelt@...
 

As most of you know, ACC ("super glue") is very sensitive to moisture. If stored in the open, even with the cap on, enough moisture will be drawn in to activate the ACC and harden it in the container. I've had this happen more than a few times, especially with the larger containers of ACC in gel form.

 

I've heard of modelers storing ACC in a sealed bag in the freezer compartment of a refrigerator as one way to prevent spoilage. I assume this works.

 

And I know some modelers just buy the very small tubes and assume they will harden before they can be completely used.

 

What methods do you use to store and preserve ACC?

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: 6650 - GTW 583000 Series Autocar - appropriate trucks?

Tony Thompson
 

Brian Leppert wrote:

 

"Increased spring capacity trucks" were a 1920s' attempt to solve the harmonic oscillation problem.  At that time, 40/50 ton trucks had only four springs per side frame and these trucks added two more for a total of six springs per side frame.  Perhaps the best known was the Dalman 2-Level design where the springs were arranged in a 2-2-2 pattern with the middle row sitting farther out from the center line . . .


      As any Cyc back to the beginning of the 20the century will show, what look like single springs in trucks usually are in fact pairs of springs, one inside the other, and oppositely wound with a different spring rate. So what looks like a six-spring truck is really twice that. But as modelers we naturally just count the springs we can see.
        I discussed these aspects of truck design in my article in _Model Railroad Hobbyist_ in the issue of September 2016.


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