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Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

Thanks, Bill.  That was about my last experience with resin cars and I filed them away under the "never again" category! Way back I tried a Westerfield and an F&C and it was frustrating to say the least. I have heard they were much more user friendly now. Unfortunately the past experience was so poor it has kept me from having some very unique rolling stock. I'm still not convinced I want to spend the money on them and experiment myself. 

I had a very good builder but he got his feelings hurt or something and so that avenue is closed, I guess. Maybe I can find another builder who can produce quality work for me. Does anyone know of a builder who can assemble resin cars without large sloppy glue deposits and have things aligned straight and true?

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Friday, February 2, 2018, 8:18:51 PM CST, fgexbill@... [STMFC] wrote:


 

That brittle material has not been used by Westerfield for over 30 years now Roger.


Bill Welch

Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build

Bill Welch
 

That brittle material has not been used by Westerfield for over 30 years now Roger.

Bill Welch

Re: Tangent GA Tank Car

Jim Ogden
 

The Humble tank car should have a blue outline outside the red logo if it’s supposed to be a car repainted between 1935 and 1945. This can be easily added with a decal if it gets under my skin too much.

After the Second World War Humble changed this to the familiar white oval with a blue outline and red lettering to resemble the other Standard Oil of New Jersey properties such as Esso. (Standard Oil of New Jersey owned 50% of Humble since 1919 and bought the rest circa 1959).

Jim Ogden
Fort Worth, TX

Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

Thanks for that clarification. Is the one piece resin as brittle as the flat kit material?

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Friday, February 2, 2018, 6:43:58 PM CST, Andrew Dahm dahminator68@... [STMFC] wrote:


 

Hello.  Actually, the #11600 Series Kits are only available with One-Piece bodies.


Thank you,
Andrew Dahm
Westerfieldmodels@...



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On Friday, February 2, 2018, 3:15 PM, Srrfan1401 srrfan1401@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

I believe that you can buy it either way check the Westerfield web site


On Feb 2, 2018, at 4:39 PM, frograbbit602@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Roger asked, “Is the Westerfield car a flat kit or a single body? ”


Kit 11661, is a one well cast one piece body.

Lester Breuer

Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build

dahminator68
 

Hello.  Actually, the #11600 Series Kits are only available with One-Piece bodies.

Thank you,
Andrew Dahm
Westerfieldmodels@...

On Friday, February 2, 2018, 3:15 PM, Srrfan1401 srrfan1401@... [STMFC] wrote:

 

I believe that you can buy it either way check the Westerfield web site


On Feb 2, 2018, at 4:39 PM, frograbbit602@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Roger asked, “Is the Westerfield car a flat kit or a single body? ”


Kit 11661, is a one well cast one piece body.

Lester Breuer

Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build

O Fenton Wells
 

I believe that you can buy it either way check the Westerfield web site


On Feb 2, 2018, at 4:39 PM, frograbbit602@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

Roger asked, “Is the Westerfield car a flat kit or a single body? ”


Kit 11661, is a one well cast one piece body.

Lester Breuer

Re: resin allergy?

Chuck Cover
 

Group,

 

I recently started an older Sunshine Kit #11.1 and the kit contains what looks like the newer resin sides, roof etc., however, the floor is a yellowish material that has a very solvent-like odor.  I don’t seem to have any allergy to this older resin, but it does irritate my eyes so I have several questions:

 

  1. Is this resin stable?  Will it change shape/warp after the kit is completed?
  2. will the smell disappear when the kit is completed?
  3. If I give it a coat of primer before I assemble the kit, would that cover the odor while I work on the kit?

 

Any other comments are welcome.  Thanks

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM

 

Re: Betterment roof

Richard Townsend
 

Sorry, that was not intended for the group.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


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From: Richard Townsend richtownsend@... [STMFC]
To: STMFC
Sent: Fri, Feb 2, 2018 1:37 pm
Subject: [STMFC] Betterment roof

 
Tom,

It was good to meet you at CCB. I'm glad you introduced yourself to me. I understand you make (made?) betterment roofs for CB&Q passenger cars. Is one still available? I want to model the C&S car Zephyr Tower.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

Thanks, Lester.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Friday, February 2, 2018, 3:39:50 PM CST, frograbbit602@... [STMFC] wrote:


 

Roger asked, “Is the Westerfield car a flat kit or a single body? ”


Kit 11661, is a one well cast one piece body.

Lester Breuer

Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build

frograbbit602
 

Roger asked, “Is the Westerfield car a flat kit or a single body? ”

Kit 11661, is a one well cast one piece body.

Lester Breuer

Betterment roof

Richard Townsend
 

Tom,

It was good to meet you at CCB. I'm glad you introduced yourself to me. I understand you make (made?) betterment roofs for CB&Q passenger cars. Is one still available? I want to model the C&S car Zephyr Tower.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Re: F.G.E.X. Refrigerator build

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

Lester,

Is the Westerfield car a flat kit or a single body? I'd like one of these cars but I have never had much luck building flat kits. My former resin car builder is made at me so he probably won't help me out!

Nice cars, by the way!

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Friday, February 2, 2018, 11:06:36 AM CST, frograbbit602@... [STMFC]


 

I have finished Westerfield Fruit Growers Express ventilated ice-bunker refrigerator, kit number 1661.  I have posted the photos and writeup to my blog I started to share photos and writeup on rolling stock, etc. of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following:



Lester Breuer


Re: Tangent GA Tank Car

Tim O'Connor
 


One of the Gerstley photos (circa 1958-1959) is a shot of a GATC Type 17 SDRX #15145.

The series 14800-15803 still shows
7 tank cars with SDRX reporting marks in the 1963 ORER,
and
5 cars in the 1965 ORER. Evidently so old why bother repainting or relettering them? :-)

UTLX #72815 (photographed in December 1963) was a GATC Type 17 - it might even be one of
the Sinclair tanks with a full repaint. :-\ The number series that includes it still exists in the 1970
tariff book with sister cars #72810 and #72814 shown - the same size, but of unknown vintage.

I would love to know if any Type 17's made it to 1971...

Tim O'Connor
                                                                    



SDRX was Sinclair not Sunray DX, but at some point beyond my research, their fleet became part of UTLX's in the mid 50's.  That would taken some time to accomplish, so the 1957 date is not unreasonable.
 
There are 68 cars in the range SDRX 15100-15194 in January 1954 ORER.
 
Steve Hile

Re: Tangent GA Tank Car

Dave Parker
 

The 151xxx series of GATC 1917 cars does appear in the 1936 tariff, but they were second-hand purchases acquired after ~1930.  By my count, there were 71 cars in this particular series that share the characteristic dome volume of 257 gallons.

Sinclair did buy 300 of these 10,000-gal cars new in ~1920, but they were in the 6100, 7100, and 8100 series.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


On Friday, February 2, 2018 10:59 AM, "'Steve and Barb Hile' shile@... [STMFC]" wrote:


 
SDRX was Sinclair not Sunray DX, but at some point beyond my research, their fleet became part of UTLX's in the mid 50's.  That would taken some time to accomplish, so the 1957 date is not unreasonable.
 
There are 68 cars in the range SDRX 15100-15194 in January 1954 ORER.
 
Steve Hile


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 12:31 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Tangent GA Tank Car

 
Thanks for the heads-up on the Tangent tank car . . . I recently received the Sinclair #15167 and have found the same thing on the lettering, but after weathering I don't think it will be noticeable. 

I do have another question though . . . the car #15167 does not show up in my research. Tangent shows it in a picture from ~1957, but I have looked at the ORER for January 1957 and the 1955 Tank Car Capacities Tariff books and could not find a five-digit number for D-X Sunray Oil with the reporting marks SDRX.

Can anyone help me with additional information that shows when a number change may have happened or something to explain this?

As usual, thanks to this awesome group for all that I have learned . . ..

Dennis Korn


Re: Tangent GA Tank Car

Steve and Barb Hile
 

SDRX was Sinclair not Sunray DX, but at some point beyond my research, their fleet became part of UTLX's in the mid 50's.  That would taken some time to accomplish, so the 1957 date is not unreasonable.
 
There are 68 cars in the range SDRX 15100-15194 in January 1954 ORER.
 
Steve Hile



From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 12:31 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: RE: [STMFC] Re: Tangent GA Tank Car

 

Thanks for the heads-up on the Tangent tank car . . . I recently received the Sinclair #15167 and have found the same thing on the lettering, but after weathering I don't think it will be noticeable. 


I do have another question though . . . the car #15167 does not show up in my research. Tangent shows it in a picture from ~1957, but I have looked at the ORER for January 1957 and the 1955 Tank Car Capacities Tariff books and could not find a five-digit number for D-X Sunray Oil with the reporting marks SDRX.

Can anyone help me with additional information that shows when a number change may have happened or something to explain this?

As usual, thanks to this awesome group for all that I have learned . . .

Dennis Korn

Re: Heinz Vinegar Tank Car

richard glueck
 

Great shot of a lost world.  Thanks!


On Friday, February 2, 2018, 10:37:24 AM EST, abrown@... [STMFC] wrote:


 

I count five pickle cars, four coffin-type and one open-tub, and one vinegar tank. Neat scene!


Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.

Re: Tangent GA Tank Car

Schleigh Mike
 

Group----

D-X Sunray is not Sinclair (SDRX).  D-X Sunray is SRDX and is not relevant to these Tangent models.

SDRX 15167 is missing from the 1955 Tariff for some reason, perhaps sold off, wrecked, or otherwise scrapped.

Regards from Grove City, Penna.  Mike Schleigh



On Friday, February 2, 2018, 1:34:47 PM EST, dkorn@... [STMFC] wrote:


 

Thanks for the heads-up on the Tangent tank car . . . I recently received the Sinclair #15167 and have found the same thing on the lettering, but after weathering I don't think it will be noticeable. 


I do have another question though . . . the car #15167 does not show up in my research. Tangent shows it in a picture from ~1957, but I have looked at the ORER for January 1957 and the 1955 Tank Car Capacities Tariff books and could not find a five-digit number for D-X Sunray Oil with the reporting marks SDRX.

Can anyone help me with additional information that shows when a number change may have happened or something to explain this?

As usual, thanks to this awesome group for all that I have learned . . .

Dennis Korn

Re: Tangent GA Tank Car

Dennis
 

Thanks for the heads-up on the Tangent tank car . . . I recently received the Sinclair #15167 and have found the same thing on the lettering, but after weathering I don't think it will be noticeable. 

I do have another question though . . . the car #15167 does not show up in my research. Tangent shows it in a picture from ~1957, but I have looked at the ORER for January 1957 and the 1955 Tank Car Capacities Tariff books and could not find a five-digit number for D-X Sunray Oil with the reporting marks SDRX.

Can anyone help me with additional information that shows when a number change may have happened or something to explain this?

As usual, thanks to this awesome group for all that I have learned . . .

Dennis Korn

Robert Schleicher in February MRH

Bill Welch
 

Very nice seeing Bob's name on an article in this month's MRH. His enthusiasm for Freight Cars played a big part in educating me. Really good man.

Bill Welch


Re: Proper Placement Of A Load

Bruce Smith
 

Bob, Folks,

In general, flat cars were not allowed to have their maximum loading in the middle of their span.  HOWEVER, the PRR’s F22 (and F23) were relatively unusual as they could carry their maximum loading at the center of the span.  This is due to the short length and deep side and center sills. Built as gun flats, these cars, as well as gun flats from other railroads such as the Milwaukee, were intentionally designed to carry heavy loads in the center of their span, in order to act like “bolsters”.

Thus, this load by laser kit is 100% prototypically correct.

Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


On Feb 2, 2018, at 10:47 AM, thecitrusbelt@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote
I don't have a prototype diagram or photo to compare with the model, but does the placement of the load supports over the middle of the flat cars rather than over or nearer the trucks seem correct?
http://www.laserkit.com/images/206web.jpg

Thanks.
Bob Chaparro