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NYSW Boxcar 9402 With Plug Door

thecitrusbelt@...
 

I came across this photo on Flickr:

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffs4653/4058168784/in/photolist-7bBbcj-anCQp

 

Caption: "Old wooden boxcar stored at the small yard in Butler NJ. This photo is from August 1988."

 

I noticed this wood sheathed boxcar has a plug door. Were plug doors commonly applied to older wood sheathed boxcars? I assume plug doors were applied during a rebuilding of this car.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: a sad modeling milestone

Richard Townsend
 

I feel your pain. 

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim O'Connor timboconnor@... [STMFC]
To: stmfc
Sent: Thu, Feb 22, 2018 12:20 pm
Subject: [STMFC] a sad modeling milestone

 

I finally ran out of Champ decal setting solution. I am heartbroken.

I just love that stuff. :'(

Tim O'Connor


a sad modeling milestone

Tim O'Connor
 


I finally ran out of Champ decal setting solution. I am heartbroken.

I just love that stuff. :'(

Tim O'Connor


Re: Cocoa Beach 2019

Aley, Jeff A
 

Hi Jerry,

 

               It’s actually traditionally the weekend before the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday weekend.

 

And as Scott pointed out, in 2019, Prototype Rails in Cocoa Beach will be held on January 10-12, 2019.

 

I’ll notify our webmaster to update the website.

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff Aley

Clinic Chairman, PR’19

 

 

 

From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 2:05 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Re: Cocoa Beach 2019

 

 

It's traditionally the first full weekend of the year

 

Jerry Glow


Re: Cocoa Beach 2019

Scott Dam
 

Next year will be the second weekend in January. This sign was posted with a thank you note to attendees this year.

See you next year:
January 10 to 12, 2019

Scott

Scott Dam,

PR Registration

Boulder City, NV

From: STMFC@yahoogroups.com [mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 12:40 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Cocoa Beach 2019





Yes,



Regards

Bruce



Bruce F. Smith

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."









On Feb 21, 2018, at 1:34 PM, 'D. Scott Seders' sseders@comcast.net <mailto:sseders@comcast.net> [STMFC] <STMFC@yahoogroups.com <mailto:STMFC@yahoogroups.com> > wrote:








Is there a date set for this yet?



Thanks,
Scott Seders

Salisbury, MD











[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Blog post

Eric Hansmann
 

That is very cool, Ted! We are all gadget geeks, right?

 

Thanks for pointing out that new presentation tool.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 7:35 PM
To: stmfc@...
Subject: [STMFC] Blog post

 




I realize that the blog post I am going to reference is tangentially related to Steam Era freight cars. However, the subject of the post might have been created just for people presenting electronic slide shows about railroad subjects. It's the perfect tool for all the presenters at the RPM meets. Click the Blog link below to read more. (I have no financial interest in the copy that makes this "perfect tool".)

 

Cheers,

Ted



Re: Cocoa Beach 2019

jerryglow2
 

It's traditionally the first full weekend of the year


Jerry Glow


B&M ORER listings

Earl Tuson
 

Hello,

I am conducting a study of the B&M�s application of steel ends and reinforcements on 36' wood and steel underframe box
cars and 34' wood underframe gondola cars during the 1920�s.��B&M AFE records are inadequate to fully document the end
replacements from the period. For example, B&M AFE 605 from 1920 authorized Mogul ends for 2000 boxcars. There are
no such application shown in 1921 (although Tim Gilbert claimed that such applications began in 1916,) but over 4707 cars
with those reinforcements are shown to exist in 1926.

I have ORER records from 12/21, when none of the relevant series are shown to have yet received steel ends, 10/26, and
12/30 (an adequate stopping point for the study for the time being, there being only retirements from that point on and no
increases from further steel end installations.)��For those of you with access to additional ORER�s within those dates, would
it be possible to obtain scans of the B&M ORER listing (starting on page 326 throughout the period of interest.) Thank you
for any assistance that you can provide,

Earl Tuson


John B. Allen photos?

A&Y Dave in MD
 

Can anyone tell me if John B. Allen is alive and if not who owns the copyright to his photograph collection?

I would like to obtain permission to use some of his photos of the Southern Railway in South Carolina for a presentation and eventually an article.

Thanks,

Dave

Sent from Dave Bott's iPad


Blog post

Ted Culotta
 

I realize that the blog post I am going to reference is tangentially related to Steam Era freight cars. However, the subject of the post might have been created just for people presenting electronic slide shows about railroad subjects. It's the perfect tool for all the presenters at the RPM meets. Click the Blog link below to read more. (I have no financial interest in the copy that makes this "perfect tool".)

Cheers,
Ted


Re: Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge 2018

Eric Hansmann
 

Here’s an RPM Valley Forge link that works. 

http://www.rpmvalleyforge.com



Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Feb 21, 2018, at 12:56 PM, prrpaul@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:

 

The 8th Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge is coming up soon on March 23-25 2018.  The location is the same great hotel as previous years, The Desmond Hotel in Malvern, PA, about 20 miles west of Philadelphia and convenient to the PA Turnpike and US 202.

 

Thursday evening and Friday morning operating sessions are being offered. 56 (yes, 56) different clinics, models display room, vendors, and a Sunday Layout Tour are all on the Timetable.

 

Please visit our web site:

 

        www.rpmvalleyforge.coml

 

Here you will find a timetable, clinics list and schedule, vendors list, hotel information, and a registration form.

 

Paul Backenstose

Chairman


Re: Cinder Transfer Car

Ray Breyer
 

Built in 1905, the N&W cars were far older than the Southern's 1925-built  cars, and were all off the revenue roster by 1926. The Southern cars were far more modern and had steel ends (and were slightly larger in all dimensions), and lasted into the early 1960s.

The F&C kit is a poor, old, tired model and needs to be either refreshed or scrapped. These days with 3D CAD and printing, it'd be relatively easy to come out with modern resin kits for all of the primary Seley hopper types. It's already been done for the D&H cars.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


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F&C still lists a similar Southern version of the Seley hopper: http://fandckits.com/HOFreight/6181.html . The main difference seems to be the corner braces.
Garth Groff 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
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That’s a classic N&W Seley hopper. Lots of older hoppers and gondolas were relegated to cinder and maintenance service as newer cars replaced them in regular service. I find it interesting that the car number and build date have been restenciled but not the big N&W.
Eric Hansmann
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Re: Cocoa Beach 2019

Bruce Smith
 

Oh, you probably actually want to know the date ;)  

January 10-13, 2019

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Feb 21, 2018, at 1:34 PM, 'D. Scott Seders' sseders@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:



Is there a date set for this yet?


Thanks,
Scott Seders

Salisbury, MD





Re: Cocoa Beach 2019

Bruce Smith
 

Yes,

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Feb 21, 2018, at 1:34 PM, 'D. Scott Seders' sseders@... [STMFC] <STMFC@...> wrote:



Is there a date set for this yet?


Thanks,
Scott Seders

Salisbury, MD





Re: Cinder Transfer Car

Garth Groff or Sally Sanford <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

F&C still lists a similar Southern version of the Seley hopper: http://fandckits.com/HOFreight/6181.html . The main difference seems to be the corner braces.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

On 2/21/18 10:22 AM, 'Eric Hansmann' eric@... [STMFC] wrote:
 

That’s a classic N&W Seley hopper. Lots of older hoppers and gondolas were relegated to cinder and maintenance service as newer cars replaced them in regular service. I find it interesting that the car number and build date have been restenciled but not the big N&W.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:45 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Cinder Transfer Car

 

Here is a link to an undated photo of a car dedicated to on-line cinder loading/unloading:

 

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns1827.jpeg

 

I'd sure like to see a photo of this or a similar car unloading cinders.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA




Cocoa Beach 2019

Scott Seders
 

Is there a date set for this yet?


Thanks,
Scott Seders

Salisbury, MD


Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge 2018

prr282
 

 

The 8th Railroad Prototype Modelers-Valley Forge is coming up soon on March 23-25 2018.  The location is the same great hotel as previous years, The Desmond Hotel in Malvern, PA, about 20 miles west of Philadelphia and convenient to the PA Turnpike and US 202.

 

Thursday evening and Friday morning operating sessions are being offered. 56 (yes, 56) different clinics, models display room, vendors, and a Sunday Layout Tour are all on the Timetable.

 

Please visit our web site:

 

        www.rpmvalleyforge.coml

 

Here you will find a timetable, clinics list and schedule, vendors list, hotel information, and a registration form.

 

Paul Backenstose

Chairman


Re: Cinder Transfer Car

rwitt_2000
 

The accountants need the number and the built date, but don't need the large "N&W". A car in cinder service is near its end of life.

Bob, to answer your request It's rare to find photos of cinder cars as the subject of a photo. I find most cinder cars hiding behind locomotives, etc. in photos of engine terminals. I gotten good at finding B&O old N-13 hoppers this way.

Bob Witt


Re: Cinder Transfer Car

Eric Hansmann
 

That’s a classic N&W Seley hopper. Lots of older hoppers and gondolas were relegated to cinder and maintenance service as newer cars replaced them in regular service. I find it interesting that the car number and build date have been restenciled but not the big N&W.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 


From: STMFC@... [mailto:STMFC@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:45 AM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Cinder Transfer Car

 

Here is a link to an undated photo of a car dedicated to on-line cinder loading/unloading:

 

http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns1827.jpeg

 

I'd sure like to see a photo of this or a similar car unloading cinders.

 

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: Tangent Scale Models HO B&O gondola for sale

Fran Giacoma
 

Gondola has been sold pending payment.
Fran Giacoma

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