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Re: HO Scale C&S XM-32 Boxcar

Bryian Sones
 

Thanks Tim O'Conner and John Monrad for the info!

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA



On Monday, April 16, 2018 7:21 PM, John Monrad <jrmonrad@...> wrote:


Southwest Scale Productions:

http://www.southwestscale.com/Superior-6-Ft-Wide-10-6-IH-5-Panel-Door-FC-650.htm

Andy Carlson has been my source for their items.

John Monrad



Re: HO Scale C&S XM-32 Boxcar

John Monrad
 

Southwest Scale Productions:

http://www.southwestscale.com/Superior-6-Ft-Wide-10-6-IH-5-Panel-Door-FC-650.htm

Andy Carlson has been my source for their items.

John Monrad


Re: Salt Tank Cars

gnryfan
 

Denny: I agree. If you blow the pic WAY up, you can see the planking and fastening holes at the ends, so it is definitely wood..  And you're correct about all the fastener rings.  Those wouldn't be needed on steel - but the paint IS really shiny, so it sorta looks like steel at first view.
Joe Berger
Great Northern Railway (HO)
Cascade Division


Re: Cataracts and color perception

 

Similar to my lasik. I had a choice of correction for near, far or one of each (AKA mono vision). I chose far vision as I prefer to not wear glasses while driving (or hunting/shooting). Mono vision can screw with your depth perception. 

The best part is being able to read the alarm clock without glasses. 

Thanks!
Brian Ehni 
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Apr 16, 2018, at 6:22 PM, Dave Sarther via Groups.Io <sartherdj@...> wrote:

I would concur 100% with Chuck's assessment of pre/between/post cataract surgery.  Had my eyes done last Sept and Oct.  Had mine corrected for distance.  Pre surgery I could read traffic signs at a distance based on my general knowledge of what it should be.  Between eyes being corrected  I could look at a speed sign from considerable distance and read it looking out of my post op eye clearly.  The other eye was a bit fuzzy at the same distance.  Our clear Tucson skies took on a new color of blue as the yellow cast described by Chuck had been removed with a new lens.  I do find that I must add moisture drops throughout the day to keep my new vision sharp.  Helps considerably when selecting paint colors used for our freight cars.
I often walk with a retired ophthamologist friend who said that when he has his eyes corrected he will correct for near vision.  I thought about the pros and cons of both, near and far for myself.  Tough decision that each individual has to make for himself/herself.  I don't mind wearing an Optivisor when modeling.
 
Later, Dave S.  Tucson, AZ
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...>
To: RealSTMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cataracts and color perception

I also had my eyes done some time apart.  In between, one eye had the sky a bit overcast when the other
showed as clear blue.  After both I would not say any colors were garish, just a lot more saturated
like a really good color photograph.  Flowers had 'zing' again. 
Chuck Peck still in Florida 

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Richard Stern <rjs8@...> wrote:
For me all colors were more intense.  I had eyes done a month apart so I had a good comparison.  I'd say most difference was in greens and blues. Lots of colors had shifted to brownish pre surgery.   No colors were garish post surgery.





Re: Cataracts and color perception

Dave Sarther
 

I would concur 100% with Chuck's assessment of pre/between/post cataract surgery.  Had my eyes done last Sept and Oct.  Had mine corrected for distance.  Pre surgery I could read traffic signs at a distance based on my general knowledge of what it should be.  Between eyes being corrected  I could look at a speed sign from considerable distance and read it looking out of my post op eye clearly.  The other eye was a bit fuzzy at the same distance.  Our clear Tucson skies took on a new color of blue as the yellow cast described by Chuck had been removed with a new lens.  I do find that I must add moisture drops throughout the day to keep my new vision sharp.  Helps considerably when selecting paint colors used for our freight cars.
I often walk with a retired ophthamologist friend who said that when he has his eyes corrected he will correct for near vision.  I thought about the pros and cons of both, near and far for myself.  Tough decision that each individual has to make for himself/herself.  I don't mind wearing an Optivisor when modeling.
 
Later, Dave S.  Tucson, AZ
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Peck <lnnrr152@...>
To: RealSTMFC <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:38 am
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Cataracts and color perception

I also had my eyes done some time apart.  In between, one eye had the sky a bit overcast when the other
showed as clear blue.  After both I would not say any colors were garish, just a lot more saturated
like a really good color photograph.  Flowers had 'zing' again. 
Chuck Peck still in Florida 

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Richard Stern <rjs8@...> wrote:
For me all colors were more intense.  I had eyes done a month apart so I had a good comparison.  I'd say most difference was in greens and blues. Lots of colors had shifted to brownish pre surgery.   No colors were garish post surgery.





HO Scale C&S XM-32 Boxcar

Bryian Sones
 

Hi All,

Anyone know where to get an HO scale 5 panel Superior door for this car? Preferably tackboadless door.

Photo Reference:



Thanks,

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA



Re: The rules of the STMFC and RealSTMFC

John Sutkus
 

Got (and read) the rules for the new group.
Sure looks like information transfer will be a lot easier.
John Sutkus


Re: Rock Island 2015 Shake-n-Take Automobile Boxcar

James E Kubanick
 

George,

Another great build from your carshop! I especially like this one.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV


On Monday, April 16, 2018 11:43 AM, Bill Keene <bill41@...> wrote:


George,

Very impressive modeling. Thank you for sharing the images. 

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Apr 16, 2018, at 5:09 AM, gtws00 via Groups.Io <gtws00@...> wrote:

Hello attached are a couple photos of my recently completed Rock Island Automobile Car in paint. It is from the 2015 Shake-n-Take in Coco Beach. My version uses a scratch built underframe as my resin casting was badly warped. This was truly a fun project. Thanks to the folks who put this project together.
George Toman <P1050363.JPG><P1050373.JPG>




Re: Test with an attached photo

tmkprr1954
 

Very nice work all!  Attachments came through fine.

Tom Kane
Reston, Va
PRR 1954


Re: Robert Hundman's contact info

O Fenton Wells
 

Yes, Hopefully I can stay awake that long!!!

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 2:39 PM, al.kresse <water.kresse@...> wrote:

Remember Bob is way out in Washington time wise.


Al Kresse

On April 16, 2018 at 12:18 PM Curt Fortenberry <curtfortenberry@...> wrote:


I'll send you a note off list, Bob is totally old school, you have to use a phone. 

Curt Fortenberry




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Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: Cataracts and color perception

Tom Madden
 

When I said "garish", I was thinking of how models you painted before the cataracts were removed appeared to you afterwards.

Tom Madden


Re: Test with an attached photo

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Richard,
 
Test satisfactory, and a very nice looking boxcar too.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532
 

From: Richard Scott
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:41 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Test with an attached photo
 
This is a test message with an attached photo.
 
Dick Scott
 


Re: Robert Hundman's contact info

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Remember Bob is way out in Washington time wise.


Al Kresse

On April 16, 2018 at 12:18 PM Curt Fortenberry <curtfortenberry@...> wrote:


I'll send you a note off list, Bob is totally old school, you have to use a phone. 

Curt Fortenberry


Re: Cataracts and color perception

Charles Peck
 

I also had my eyes done some time apart.  In between, one eye had the sky a bit overcast when the other
showed as clear blue.  After both I would not say any colors were garish, just a lot more saturated
like a really good color photograph.  Flowers had 'zing' again. 
Chuck Peck still in Florida 

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 1:50 PM, Richard Stern <rjs8@...> wrote:
For me all colors were more intense.  I had eyes done a month apart so I had a good comparison.  I'd say most difference was in greens and blues. Lots of colors had shifted to brownish pre surgery.   No colors were garish post surgery.





Re: The rules of the STMFC and RealSTMFC

Scott Kremer
 

On Apr 16, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Mikebrock <brockm@...> wrote:
This group has been a significant aid to my hobby for a long time. i look forward to the change with a continuing sharing information about this subject. Modeling the GN in the fifties as accurately as I can, including freight cars.

Scott Kremer
skremer@...


Re: The rules of the STMFC and RealSTMFC

Jim Betz
 

Garth and Mike,

  If you have an image that you don't have/know the owner/rights of ... why not
post it to some 'personal web space' (such as flickr or other such service) and
simply provide a link to it here?

  Doesn't this take RealSTMFC off the hook and allow the sharing? 
                                                                                                              - Jim B.


Re: Cataracts and color perception

Richard Stern
 

For me all colors were more intense. I had eyes done a month apart so I had a good comparison. I'd say most difference was in greens and blues. Lots of colors had shifted to brownish pre surgery. No colors were garish post surgery.


Re: The rules of the STMFC and RealSTMFC

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Mike,

A clarification on photos please. Your rules do not address old photos/negatives from our personal collections by unknown photographers. A Will Whittaker photo is one thing (for example), but an accidental shot of a boxcar taken 60 years before the print turned up in a pile family snapshots at a local antiques mall is something else entirely.
I know that technically the intellectual property still resides with the creator, his/her heirs or his/her assigns, but in many cases there is no way to trace this, the photographer may likely be deceased, and nobody is left to care. I'm sure you too have such photos in your personal collection. How are we to handle these if we want to post them to the group? Would something like "Collection of Garth Groff, original photographer unknown" be acceptable?

I don't want to stir up a lot of chatter about intellectual rights, but this is a valid question for you to address.

Thanks much.


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

On 4/16/18 1:07 PM, Mikebrock wrote:

. . .  Placing photos in the file space involves issues associated with copyright and property rights. Members are allowed to upload photos into the file and/or photo spaces but only those photos that the members took themselves or those for which they have permission from the photo seller or other source to present on the internet for public consumption. Members are expected to obtain by themselves the necessary permissions. Failure to do so could result in the member being excluded from using the file and photo spaces. All photos placed in the file space are for personal use only by members of the STMFC and any rights for other usage must be negotiated with the party holding rights to the photo's usage. Photos placed in the STMFC file space must include in the description the source of the photo. The STMFPH is an associated group used to provide additional storage space and the same conditions apply to photo activity in that group. Announcements of steam era frt car related items for sell are permitted BUT actual lists of items should be made available from the seller upon request rather than in the message. Announcements of such sells should be kept at a minimum. The primary objective of the group is to exchange information concerning the subject . . . .

Mike Brock

STMFC and RealSTMFC Owner



Re: Accurail Nickel Plate Rebuilt Hopper Kitbash

Ray Breyer
 

>>On Monday, April 16, 2018, 12:02:42 PM CDT, Paolo Roffo <paolo.roffo@...> wrote:
>>Would these have travelled off-line much by the 1950s?  Or were they mostly relegated to company 
>>service and other niche uses by then?
>>Paolo



Hi Paolo, 

Although they do seem to have been the cars of choice to haul NKP company coal and ash, they were regular service hoppers just like any other car in their fleet. They show up regularly in Wheeling Division train photos, and I have a color photo of one in a Seaboard train in Sewell's Point VA, circa 1956. There were still 972 of these cars on the roster in 1959, representing 12% of their hopper fleet.

Keep in mind that the bulk of these cars weren't rebuilt into all-steel cars until the 1950-1954 period. If they were going to stay in company service they probably wouldn't have been rebuilt at all. The N&W didn't have a use for the cars, and they were scrapped quickly after the N&W takeover.

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL




Re: Cataracts and color perception

 

Tom - Went to dinner with Wayne Wesolowski the other night. After his cataracts were removed he no longer had to rely on his wife for color matching. He was also able to determine the difference between dark blue and black for the first time. All W 


On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Tom Madden via Groups.Io
<pullmanboss@...> wrote:

Oh no! Not the color topic again!

Last Friday I was evaluated for cataract surgery, and the surgeon mentioned that my cataracts have me seeing everything through a yellow filter. Looking through previous STMFC color discussions several of you mentioned that after cataract surgery colors were "different", but no references to how they shifted. I remember going through a museum on the outskirts of Paris some years ago where many of Monet's later paintings were displayed, His late-life color palette was dominated by intense reds and yellows to the point of garishness, while earlier it was blues and greens. The docent mentioned that Monet developed severe cataracts later in life and it affected how he saw colors.

Considering how prominent reds are in our steam era freight car fleet, did any of you who have had cataract surgery find that your models looked "too red" (or too garish) afterwards?

Tom Madden, surgery in early July, both eyes

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