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Re: Resin Kits

Bruce F. Smith <smithbf@...>
 

Charles,

Where do you guys get your resin kits (Westerfield, Sunshine, F&C,
etc)? Do you order direct from Al or Loften or is there a hobby
store that gives a discount? I don't expect that there is as much of
a margin to the retailer as in say, Accurail or some others that can
be regularly had for up to 20-30% of retail. Just looking ahead!
Charles Etheredge
Well, I do several things...

1) Buy direct from Sunshine & Westerfield, paying full price. Al's
service is wonderful, he's easy to order from and it comes fast...Sunshine
is...well... worth the wait. There are one or two shops that stock
Sunshine, but IIRC, you pays full price there too. Both Sunshine and
Westerfield have booths at shows and will, on occaision, have show
discounts on specific items.

2) Buy direct from F&C paying ~$11-12/kit. I do this by only purchasing
their kits at conventions in large lots, buying the polybag kits or buying
when they occaisionally have a buy one, get one free sale.

3) Buy on eBay. I usually limit my bid to 75% of list for Sunshine and
Westerfield and 50% for F&C (which you never see, so I never buy F&C on
eBay). This routinely gets me Westerfield items (at least 50% success
rate) and just as routinely fails with Sunshine (Maybe 5-10% success
rate...Some MORONS out there pay more than list for kits that are in
stock!).

4) Buy from list members liquidating stock.

If I NEED a car, I revert to #1 and just order...I'm filling out my 500 car
fleet with #3

Happy Rails
Bruce

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Resin Kits

Charles Etheredge
 

Where do you guys get your resin kits (Westerfield, Sunshine, F&C,
etc)? Do you order direct from Al or Loften or is there a hobby
store that gives a discount? I don't expect that there is as much of
a margin to the retailer as in say, Accurail or some others that can
be regularly had for up to 20-30% of retail. Just looking ahead!
Charles Etheredge


UTLX Multi-compartment tankers

Charles Etheredge
 

Back in the late 60's, early 70's, I worked as a division accountant
for a Pennzoil Distributor here in Austin. We regularly received
tank cars from Oil City, PA. These were two compartment types, both
of which contained bulk motor oil....one 30 wt., the other 40 wt. We
filled our own 55 gal. drums with the oil and sold to car dealers and
contractors. We did the same thing with receipt of ATF (automatic
transmission fluid).
Charles Etheredge
Modeling the T&NO in the 40's


Santa Fe reefer book

Louie B. Hydrick
 

Greetings,

The books are out there if you ask. My inquiries to this list netted multiple leads. I acquired a copy and found it well worth the asking price; especially if you plan to build more than example of the SFRD fleet.

The quality of the book now has me planning to acquire more of the series even though I model only a railroad that was a destination of many Santa Fe cars and not the ATSF itself.


Louie B. Hydrick


Re: Santa Fe reefer book

Len Allman <allmansipe@...>
 

Hello Larry,

A fair price but too rich for me. Thanks for the
e-mail.

Len Allman


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C&NW double sheathed box cars in WWII

ed_mines
 

A few days ago someone mentioned the excellent Jack Delano photo of a
C&NW yard during WWII on the cover of "Mainline Modeler".

In that photo there are some double sheathed C&NW box cars (with
metal ends?).

Can anyone provide more information of those cars, WWII era
numbering, date built, date removed from service.....? How about a
nice, clear WWII era photo?

Thanks to renumbering CN&W is hard for the outsider to follow.


Re: Pullman photos not in Haskell & Barker Collection

Bob Kutella
 

Hi Ted,

I do not know if the specific subject photos are in the Pullman
Library at the Illinois Railway Museum but we are continuing to find
gems and in particular some freight car subjects. Ted Anderson has
been doing a prodigious amount of work and organization and replying
in real time to requests and orders at the rate of about 15 orders per
month. During all this he continues to organize and index parts of
the Pullman collection which have not seen 'the light of day' for a
while. As an example, we recently uncovered several excellent
builders photos of the 600 series CGW cabooses built by Pullman in the
Worcester, Mass plant.

The real strength of the collection we acquired from Pullman Chicago
is passenger equipment but there are other segments of the collection
including trolley cars (Pullman and Osgood Bradley) and some freight
cars. Feel free to inquire from Ted to his attention at Illinois
Railway Museum, Box 427, Union, IL 60180 and try to include as much
info or data as you can such as dates, shop or order number or plan
number if you have them.

Bob Kutella


Re: Trix UP hoppers

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Yes, Trix probably will sell all they make. Although I don't
expect the numbers need to be huge for them to amortize their
investment. I bought one because the H-70-1 is a very desirable
model for a western U.S. 1950's railroad. But one is enough.


Charlie Vlk wrote

.....and will probably sell out in spite of the price.

Not exactly. Kato could not sell a $20 freight car for $15 and
make money. Trix is selling its $10 freight car for $30 each.

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@attbi.com>
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: CBQ 24167-24210 in 1948

Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...>
 

I checked my CB&Q rosters, but I have nothing from the time period you mention. The number series has always been box cars; first company owned 33 foot wood cars and later steel DF boxcars.
The 36' is also curious... the SM16 etc. stock cars were the only 36 foot cars that I know of..... the Mather stock cars were 40' and in a 5XXXX number series. The GATX DF cars were in that approx. number slots but later and they were 50'.
Charlie

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Nelson
To: STMFC
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 7:27 PM
Subject: [STMFC] CBQ 24167-24210 in 1948


Here's another car series question from 1948, this time CBQ 24167-24210, 40
cars, 36' IL, Steel Center Sills, marked U.S.A. not CB&Q, and operated under
lease. I imagine there might be a story to go with this but I've no idea
what it might be. Anybody know?

Dave Nelson


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Re: Trix UP hoppers

Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...>
 

.....and will probably sell out in spite of the price.
Charlie

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim O'Connor
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Trix UP hoppers


Jon Miller wrote

>Just received my new RMJ and noticed the Trix hoppers. While Mike's
>probably happy is Trix trying the Kato method of selling freight cars.
>They are packed in lots of 4 for $120. Wasn't this the prime reason the
>Kato hopper was their last freight car?

Jon,

Not exactly. Kato could not sell a $20 freight car for $15 and
make money. Trix is selling its $10 freight car for $30 each.

You do the math. :o)



Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@attbi.com>
Sterling, Massachusetts


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Re: B&M well hole flats (and GE also)

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

On 2/10/03 8:16 AM, "Kevin Lafferty" <KevinHLafferty@avenew.com> wrote:

Brian,
I would suggest that you post any photos in the files area as Yahoo
compresses the daylights out of photos posted in the photo section.

Kevin Lafferty

WILCO.
Brian


Re: B&M well hole flats (and GE also)

Kevin Lafferty <KevinHLafferty@...>
 

Brian,
I would suggest that you post any photos in the files area as Yahoo
compresses the daylights out of photos posted in the photo section.

Kevin Lafferty

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Paul Ehni [mailto:behni@comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:26 AM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [STMFC] B&M well hole flats (and GE also)

I�ll post the picture in the photos section and notify the group.

Brian


Re: PS-4 flatcars

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Jan,

They sure did. I don't have the dates handy, but I can tell you the WP bought some.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff

Jan Podganski, Jr. wrote:

Did PS-4 flatcars really exist? If so, when were they first built and what railroads had them. Thanks in advance, Jan


Re: B&M well hole flats (and GE also)

Brian Paul Ehni <behni@...>
 

On 2/10/03 12:45 AM, "Jack Wyatt" <cjwyatt@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I have a slide of 5002, if anybody¹s interested.

Brian
Brian, thanks.

Is it a side view where you can see if the car has handbrakes on one end or
both? Loaded or empty? Is the time period known?

I wouldn't want you to go to any trouble, but if you have a slide scanner or
a print that you can scan, it would be interesting to see the image.

I appreciate the offer.

Jack Wyatt




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Since there is some interest, I will scan it tonight when I get home. It¹s a
slide, taken in July 1979 in Fitchburg, MA, while I was attending school at
Fort Devens. The car has a cover on it, and appears to be loaded (what seems
to be a shaft is sticking out the side). More than that, I can¹t say without
looking closer.

I¹ll post the picture in the photos section and notify the group.

Brian


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Re: UTLX Tank Car from Intermountain

Garth G. Groff <ggg9y@...>
 

Tony and friends,

Were multi-compartment tank cars ever used to ship small quantities to several adjacent customers, say two or three different fuel dealers of the same brand in successive locations on the railroad? This was often done with shipments in boxcars.

Kind regards,


Garth G. Groff


thompson@signaturepress.com wrote:

I was wondering what products would be shipped in multi-compartment cars?
Different ones <g>. Obviously when a receiver only needed small
quantities of several commodities (motor oil, lube oil, kerosene, etc.)
this was a way to deliver. Same goes for edible oils, types of wine, and a
very wide variety of chemical solvents and feedstocks.
Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA


Re: Santa Fe reefer book

ljack70117@...
 

I would take 60 dollars postage paid.
Thank you
Larry Jackman

"Chet French " wrote:


Group,

A book vendor at the Wheaton, IL train show today had a copy of the
Santa Fe reefer book with a $100.00 price tag.

Chet French
Dixon, IL


Re: PS-4 flatcars

James F. Brewer <jfbrewer@...>
 

----- Original Message -----

Did PS-4 flatcars really exist? If so, when were they first built and what
railroads had them. Thanks in advance, Jan

Mainline Modeler, May 1999 contains an article by James Kinkaid, "Pullman
Standard PS-4 Flat Car," beginning on page 37. It provides lots of info on
these cars, including a roster of owners. To summarize the roster: WP
(6-55), BM (3-57), BM (3-57 w/bulkheads), OIMD (4-57), URR (4-57), MILW
(1-58), NYC (4-60), P&LE (4-60).

The July 1999 issue of Mainline Modeler contains an article by Robert
Hundman on the BM PS-4 bulkhead flat car.

Hope this helps.

Jim Brewer
Glenwood, Maryland


PRR Builders photos

Bill Lane <billlane@...>
 

I all,

I am somewhat new to the group. I have just switched the email from none to
digest mode. I was introduced to it from the resident freight car Guru Earl
Tuson. I am an S Scaler as well (&SLOBBERING Pennsy Freak). Earl is doing
some master pattern work for my S Scale brass X29 project.
www.pennsysmodels.com

Anyway the main reason for the post is I figure a few members may have some
original PRR Builders photos. I mostly buy and trade. That is my goal here.
However, I am not stingy with sending a photo or 2 to someone who needs them
for a modeling project. Just don't ask me to send it to Hotmail!

SO, if you want to sell or trade, lets talk. Between PRR, Baldwin, EMD and
Alco I am about to pass 900 photos. Approximately 60-70% are probably
freight cars.

Please reply to billlane@comcast.net

Thanks
Bill


Reporting Marks - clarification

CBarkan@...
 

One doesn't have to be a member of AAR to have reporting marks (think of all
the private owners, most short lines, etc. who are not members). AAR
(actually their subsidiary Railinc now) administers marks, i.e. manages the
assignment of them to various companies. I don't question the veracity of
the rest of Al's message about the "shove cars".

In a message dated 2/9/03 3:58:29 PM, abbuchan1@comcast.net writes:

<< They are stenciled NYC because Conrail Shared
Asset Operations (CSAO) is not a member of the AAR and therefore, does
not have reporting marks. >>


Re: B&M well hole flats (and GE also)

C J Wyatt
 

I have a slide of 5002, if anybody�s interested.

Brian
Brian, thanks.

Is it a side view where you can see if the car has handbrakes on one end or
both? Loaded or empty? Is the time period known?

I wouldn't want you to go to any trouble, but if you have a slide scanner or
a print that you can scan, it would be interesting to see the image.

I appreciate the offer.

Jack Wyatt

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