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Re: New Photos To Albums

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Dennis and John,

I really hadn't considered I was hogging space on the server, and thought I was being conscious of posting photos that would be of use or interest to our members. I will do some rethinking, and can certainly rotate out some photos, or even do with fewer albums after people have had a chance to look them over and download anything they want. As I digitize my father's and my slide collections, I'm sure to find more interesting cars. The WP tank car collection stays unless our moderators want it removed. O.K.? I'm still hoping it will help somebody, maybe Accurail, do an AC&F 10K high-walkway tank. :-D

This morning I converted four of the groups to jpg format. If anyone wants to check WP tank cars, Shenandoah Valley (we discussed the boxcar some years ago), FGEX/WFE refrigerators, and Yolo Short Line (which I consider expendable) and report to me if they are finally working, PLEASE CONTACT ME OFF-LIST: sarahsan AT embarqmail.com (deformatted). You will find these albums at the end of page 8 and the beginning of page 9. I hope to do the other albums tomorrow morning.

Something to consider about wasting space is all the albums which have nothing in them, represented by a "moon over the mountain" icon. Apparently only our moderators can do this clean-up job

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 5/4/18 10:29 AM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 06:44 pm, John Hagen wrote:
Which points up a minor problem.
Using tif for photos in a group is a waste of the available space and really serves no real purpose.

While it's admirable that Garth wants to share his photos in a format that will let any list member download the maximum quality image, I should point out that these groups only have a limited amount of storage space before someone has to pay for it. The larger the file size of the photos, the sooner that happens. Which is why I've always viewed the PHOTOS section of these groups as a place to share a view to enhance the discussion. A 72 ppi JPG image is certainly adequate for discussion. If someone wants an image at greater resolution, he is free to contact Garth directly, or Garth can upload them to one of the photo hosting sites, and post the link here.

I've been a member of these chat lists for a long time... back to the days of severely limited storage space. These group pages are not intended to be permanent web sites to collect information; the photo section is there to support the discussion. Back then it was routine for the list owner to periodically delete the oldest photos to keep within the storage limit, typically deleting the oldest photos first. Use up all the storage space, and the list will no longer be free.

Dennis Storzek

Looking for a better Miter BoxHelp Please

Tim O'Connor
 


On my NWSL chopper, I glued down two pieces of shim brass with a "slit"
in between them just wide enough for a single edge razor blade. Perhaps
something like that would help with a mitre box. My el cheapo plastic Mitre
box must be at least 20 years old and I still use it... A reason I like it
is because it has very shallow sides, so it's easier to clamp or hold the
work down while I cut.

Tim O'Connor




At this point I only need to make four cuts, I will worry about the future in the future. Also says the base is plastic but it looks to me like the base may be a separate part. Open to a better alternative of course.

Bill Welch

Looking for a better Miter BoxHelp Please

Tim O'Connor
 


I have an aluminum mitre box and a plastic one. I get the best results when
I use my very fine tooth blade to make a straight line in the first pass. After
that the trick is just to stay in that line that has been started. And I always
cut pulling towards myself and with very light downward pressure. If possible I
make the cut in a way that I can file down to the exact finishing line. Good
luck, it's not easy to do!

Tim


I am looking for a better Miter Box. The one I have allows the blade to wobble too much when trying to line up the cut. I found the attached on Micro Mark and it looks like the slits for the saw are pretty narrow. Can anyone comment on this tool or have a good suggestion.

Bill Welch

FOR SALE - Southern Pacific HO Models

Storey Lindsay
 

I still have a few Sunshine, Westerfield, Funaro & Camerlengo, and Speedwitch HO-Scale resin kits I need to find new homes for. If you are interested, please let me know OFFLINE at --  storey.lindsay@... -- and I will send you a list of what is still available.  Thanks for your interest.

Storey Lindsay
Celje, Slovenia
Re: Looking for a better Miter Box—Help Please

Douglas Harding
 

Bill if you truly want one with no wiggle in the saw kerf, cut your own with the saw blade you plan to use. Any commercial product will probably have a kerf wider than the saw blade you want to use. The MicroMark one you posted is made by Midwest Products, which states it is injected molded, ie plastic.  https://midwestproducts.com/collections/tools/products/easy-miter-box-deluxe

 

You want a tight miter cut, get a metal combination square or metal triangle. Lay on top of the stock being cut, use clamps if necessary, and keep your saw blade tight against the metal edge as you cut.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: RealSTMFC@groups.io [mailto:RealSTMFC@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 12:00 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Looking for a better Miter Box—Help Please

 

At this point I only need to make four cuts, I will worry about the future in the future. Also says the base is plastic but it looks to me like the base may be a separate part. Open to a better alternative of course.

Bill Welch

Re: Looking for a better Miter Box—Help Please

Bill Welch
 

At this point I only need to make four cuts, I will worry about the future in the future. Also says the base is plastic but it looks to me like the base may be a separate part. Open to a better alternative of course.

Bill Welch
Re: Looking for a better Miter Box—Help Please

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

“Plastic base” does not bode well for long-term ruggedness.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

From: <RealSTMFC@groups.io> on behalf of Bill Welch <fgexbill@...>
Reply-To: <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Date: Friday, May 4, 2018 at 11:06 AM
To: <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Looking for a better Miter Box—Help Please

 

I am looking for a better Miter Box. The one I have allows the blade to wobble too much when trying to line up the cut. I found the attached on Micro Mark and it looks like the slits for the saw are pretty narrow. Can anyone comment on this tool or have a good suggestion.

Bill Welch

Re: Tahoe Model Works trucks

gary laakso
 

My apologies to the group, I had my Bengals help with the keyboard.

 

Gary “oops” Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io> On Behalf Of gary laakso
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 8:38 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tahoe Model Works trucks

 

Greetings, Andy:

 

If you have 3 of each of the following, I will buy them and need your address yet again as computer appears to have swallowed it:

 

001, 002, 006, 007 008, 009, 012, 014, 016.2 and 016.  If quantities are less than 3, I will take them.  TIA

 

Gary Laakso

 

From: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 8:13 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Tahoe Model Works trucks

 

 

 

Hello-

I have good quantities of the following Tahoe Model Works HO trucks (items in shorter supply will be noted). These are sold less the wheel sets. These are designed to use the Intermountain wheels, but Reboxx, Kadee, NWSL, Exact Rail, P2K/Walthers and others will work. Pictures are viewable on-line at <sunshinekits.com> click on "links" and go to Tahoe Model Works. The site also lists RR users of the different trucks.

 

#001 Dalman 2-level

#002 Dalman 2-level with lateral motion device

#003 Arch Bar trucks

#004 Bettendorf 1930s and 1940s swing motion caboose Have 5 pair only

#005 Barber-bettendorf late 1940s+swing motion caboose truck Have 6 pair only

#006 Buckeye w/ spring plank

#007 Double Truss

#008 Coil/Elliptic

#009 Barber lateral motion

#010 ASF Ride Control A-3 70-ton

#011 5' wheelbase old-time Arch Bar Have 8 pair only

#012 USRA Andrews Have 7 pair only

#013 Barber S-2 50-ton

#014 Scullin AAR 40-ton with lateral motion

#015 Scullen 40-ton w/ spring plank w/o LMD Have 8 pair only

All are priced at $4.50/pair, less wheel sets.

 

The following are the limited run Northern Pacific Swayback Andrews used on reefers, box cars, flats and MoW

#016.1 As built/delivered -- Have 2 pairs

#016.2 NP added top chord reinforcements

#016   Final modified extra reinforcement version

These NP trucks are available for $5.75/pair, less wheel sets.

 

The following trucks are factory packaged with code 110 RP 25 wheel sets:

#107 Double truss 50-ton  Have 6 pair only  Priced at $7.50/pair

 

I have Intermountain Code 88 33" wheel sets for $9/12 pack.

I have Intermountain Code 88 33" with high detail back side wheel sets for $12/12pack

 

Shipping of $3.75 and up will be added to the total (Shipping is quite reasonable as these are quite light). I accept checks and money orders. For a small fee, I also accept PayPal.

Thanks,

-Andy Carlson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Looking for a better Miter Box—Help Please

Bill Welch
 

I am looking for a better Miter Box. The one I have allows the blade to wobble too much when trying to line up the cut. I found the attached on Micro Mark and it looks like the slits for the saw are pretty narrow. Can anyone comment on this tool or have a good suggestion.

Bill Welch
Re: Tahoe Model Works trucks

gary laakso
 

Greetings, Andy:

 

If you have 3 of each of the following, I will buy them and need your address yet again as computer appears to have swallowed it:

 

001, 002, 006, 007 008, 009, 012, 014, 016.2 and 016.  If quantities are less than 3, I will take them.  TIA

 

Gary Laakso

 

From: RealSTMFC@groups.io <RealSTMFC@groups.io> On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 8:13 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Tahoe Model Works trucks

 

 

 

Hello-

I have good quantities of the following Tahoe Model Works HO trucks (items in shorter supply will be noted). These are sold less the wheel sets. These are designed to use the Intermountain wheels, but Reboxx, Kadee, NWSL, Exact Rail, P2K/Walthers and others will work. Pictures are viewable on-line at <sunshinekits.com> click on "links" and go to Tahoe Model Works. The site also lists RR users of the different trucks.

 

#001 Dalman 2-level

#002 Dalman 2-level with lateral motion device

#003 Arch Bar trucks

#004 Bettendorf 1930s and 1940s swing motion caboose Have 5 pair only

#005 Barber-bettendorf late 1940s+swing motion caboose truck Have 6 pair only

#006 Buckeye w/ spring plank

#007 Double Truss

#008 Coil/Elliptic

#009 Barber lateral motion

#010 ASF Ride Control A-3 70-ton

#011 5' wheelbase old-time Arch Bar Have 8 pair only

#012 USRA Andrews Have 7 pair only

#013 Barber S-2 50-ton

#014 Scullin AAR 40-ton with lateral motion

#015 Scullen 40-ton w/ spring plank w/o LMD Have 8 pair only

All are priced at $4.50/pair, less wheel sets.

 

The following are the limited run Northern Pacific Swayback Andrews used on reefers, box cars, flats and MoW

#016.1 As built/delivered -- Have 2 pairs

#016.2 NP added top chord reinforcements

#016   Final modified extra reinforcement version

These NP trucks are available for $5.75/pair, less wheel sets.

 

The following trucks are factory packaged with code 110 RP 25 wheel sets:

#107 Double truss 50-ton  Have 6 pair only  Priced at $7.50/pair

 

I have Intermountain Code 88 33" wheel sets for $9/12 pack.

I have Intermountain Code 88 33" with high detail back side wheel sets for $12/12pack

 

Shipping of $3.75 and up will be added to the total (Shipping is quite reasonable as these are quite light). I accept checks and money orders. For a small fee, I also accept PayPal.

Thanks,

-Andy Carlson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Tahoe Model Works trucks

Andy Carlson
 




Hello-
I have good quantities of the following Tahoe Model Works HO trucks (items in shorter supply will be noted). These are sold less the wheel sets. These are designed to use the Intermountain wheels, but Reboxx, Kadee, NWSL, Exact Rail, P2K/Walthers and others will work. Pictures are viewable on-line at <sunshinekits.com> click on "links" and go to Tahoe Model Works. The site also lists RR users of the different trucks.

#001 Dalman 2-level
#002 Dalman 2-level with lateral motion device
#003 Arch Bar trucks
#004 Bettendorf 1930s and 1940s swing motion caboose Have 5 pair only
#005 Barber-bettendorf late 1940s+swing motion caboose truck Have 6 pair only
#006 Buckeye w/ spring plank
#007 Double Truss
#008 Coil/Elliptic
#009 Barber lateral motion
#010 ASF Ride Control A-3 70-ton
#011 5' wheelbase old-time Arch Bar Have 8 pair only
#012 USRA Andrews Have 7 pair only
#013 Barber S-2 50-ton
#014 Scullin AAR 40-ton with lateral motion
#015 Scullen 40-ton w/ spring plank w/o LMD Have 8 pair only
All are priced at $4.50/pair, less wheel sets.

The following are the limited run Northern Pacific Swayback Andrews used on reefers, box cars, flats and MoW
#016.1 As built/delivered -- Have 2 pairs
#016.2 NP added top chord reinforcements
#016   Final modified extra reinforcement version
These NP trucks are available for $5.75/pair, less wheel sets.

The following trucks are factory packaged with code 110 RP 25 wheel sets:
#107 Double truss 50-ton  Have 6 pair only  Priced at $7.50/pair

I have Intermountain Code 88 33" wheel sets for $9/12 pack.
I have Intermountain Code 88 33" with high detail back side wheel sets for $12/12pack

Shipping of $3.75 and up will be added to the total (Shipping is quite reasonable as these are quite light). I accept checks and money orders. For a small fee, I also accept PayPal.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson







 




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Re: New Photos To Albums

Dennis Storzek
 

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 06:44 pm, John Hagen wrote:
Which points up a minor problem.
Using tif for photos in a group is a waste of the available space and really serves no real purpose.

While it's admirable that Garth wants to share his photos in a format that will let any list member download the maximum quality image, I should point out that these groups only have a limited amount of storage space before someone has to pay for it. The larger the file size of the photos, the sooner that happens. Which is why I've always viewed the PHOTOS section of these groups as a place to share a view to enhance the discussion. A 72 ppi JPG image is certainly adequate for discussion. If someone wants an image at greater resolution, he is free to contact Garth directly, or Garth can upload them to one of the photo hosting sites, and post the link here.

I've been a member of these chat lists for a long time... back to the days of severely limited storage space. These group pages are not intended to be permanent web sites to collect information; the photo section is there to support the discussion. Back then it was routine for the list owner to periodically delete the oldest photos to keep within the storage limit, typically deleting the oldest photos first. Use up all the storage space, and the list will no longer be free.

Dennis Storzek
Re: New Photos To Albums

O Fenton Wells
 

I couldn't open them either.  I saw the folders but no photos
Fenton

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 8:30 PM, Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote:
Bill,

Poop! I was thinking you might find the FGEX album of interest, at least to show what was out there on the Left Coast.

All I can say about the io albums is some folks get lucky, and some don't. I suspect it might have something to do with LAN bandwidth, at least in my case (the slowest possible internet service). I think if you go pour yourself a Starbucks and come back in a few minutes, the photos will start to pop up.

I've noticed that when you click on a single photo and it opens, all the others are gone again when you return to the album's home. Then they start the agonizing process of loading all over again. Not exactly a user-friendly feature, even if it is free.

Can you at least see the photo captions? If you can, and sounds interesting, I will send gladly slightly larger versions to you directly. Just request directly please.

So in the interest of saving that precious bandwidth, let's not have a chorus of "I can" or "I can't" again. That was last week.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

On 5/3/18 8:05 PM, Bill Welch wrote:
Garth, I am not seeing any photos in the folders.

Bill Welch

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:23 pm, Garth Groff wrote:
Friends,

I have just uploaded seven new photos to my Albums 6-8 (living for the moment on page 9 of the io photo site). These are all in color and include two new FGEX refrigerators in Album 6, a nifty 12K UTLX tank in Album 7, plus Album 8 got D&RGW and International Mineral and Chemical covered hoppers, a DODX PS-1 1 1/2-door boxcar, and a single-sheathed NP boxcar with a mess of dog food some clumsy forklift operator just spilled. I've added commentary to most of these photos.

As always, your comments and additional data are welcome. Come up with something good and I might be able to add it to the comments box.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿




--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...
Re: New Photos To Albums

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

Which points up a minor problem.
Using tif for photos in a group is a waste of the available space and really serves no real purpose.
For keeping on one's own hard drive, tif's are an good choice as it retains the quality. But for viewing on the web it is totally unnecessary. Jpg's will show just as well.
I also recommend to Garth and all to include the exact name of the album(s) they are posted to. This is the best way to locate them in groups.io.
Not trying to dump on Garth but the above information is quite true.
John Hagen

-----Original Message-----
From: RealSTMFC@groups.io [mailto:RealSTMFC@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rufus Cone
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 7:52 PM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] New Photos To Albums

Garth, I am not seeing any photos in the folders.
Bill Welch
Bill,

Garth has uploaded these photos as tif files. They do not display, but
they are there.

Open the link to each photo in a separate page or in that page, and you
will get a mostly blank page with a download button. Click on the
download button, choose the directory where you wish to save the file
and save.

This worked with Firefox. I did not try Chrome.

--
Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT
Re: New Photos To Albums

Rufus Cone
 

Garth, I am not seeing any photos in the folders.
Bill Welch
Bill,

Garth has uploaded these photos as tif files.  They do not display, but they are there.

Open the link to each photo in a separate page or in that page, and you will get a mostly blank page with a download button. Click on the download button, choose the directory where you wish to save the file and save.

This worked with Firefox.  I did not try Chrome.

--
Rufus Cone
Bozeman, MT
views of Mid Continental Coal Co gondolas

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
Some might be interested in these views of Mid Continental Coal Co gondolas, circa 1920...
 
 
 
Certainly there is a lot of fascinating 1920’s machinery around in the photos!
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
Re: New Photos To Albums

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Bill,

Poop! I was thinking you might find the FGEX album of interest, at least to show what was out there on the Left Coast.

All I can say about the io albums is some folks get lucky, and some don't. I suspect it might have something to do with LAN bandwidth, at least in my case (the slowest possible internet service). I think if you go pour yourself a Starbucks and come back in a few minutes, the photos will start to pop up.

I've noticed that when you click on a single photo and it opens, all the others are gone again when you return to the album's home. Then they start the agonizing process of loading all over again. Not exactly a user-friendly feature, even if it is free.

Can you at least see the photo captions? If you can, and sounds interesting, I will send gladly slightly larger versions to you directly. Just request directly please.

So in the interest of saving that precious bandwidth, let's not have a chorus of "I can" or "I can't" again. That was last week.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

On 5/3/18 8:05 PM, Bill Welch wrote:
Garth, I am not seeing any photos in the folders.

Bill Welch

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:23 pm, Garth Groff wrote:
Friends,

I have just uploaded seven new photos to my Albums 6-8 (living for the moment on page 9 of the io photo site). These are all in color and include two new FGEX refrigerators in Album 6, a nifty 12K UTLX tank in Album 7, plus Album 8 got D&RGW and International Mineral and Chemical covered hoppers, a DODX PS-1 1 1/2-door boxcar, and a single-sheathed NP boxcar with a mess of dog food some clumsy forklift operator just spilled. I've added commentary to most of these photos.

As always, your comments and additional data are welcome. Come up with something good and I might be able to add it to the comments box.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Re: New Photos To Albums

Bill Welch
 

Garth, I am not seeing any photos in the folders.

Bill Welch


On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 12:23 pm, Garth Groff wrote:
Friends,

I have just uploaded seven new photos to my Albums 6-8 (living for the moment on page 9 of the io photo site). These are all in color and include two new FGEX refrigerators in Album 6, a nifty 12K UTLX tank in Album 7, plus Album 8 got D&RGW and International Mineral and Chemical covered hoppers, a DODX PS-1 1 1/2-door boxcar, and a single-sheathed NP boxcar with a mess of dog food some clumsy forklift operator just spilled. I've added commentary to most of these photos.

As always, your comments and additional data are welcome. Come up with something good and I might be able to add it to the comments box.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Re: Boxcar With "CT" In The Reporting Marks

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

What you have provided has always been my understanding as well, Dennis. As most of us know many of the cars were not accepted after the war by the railroads to which they were assigned when built. All being under USRA administration there was little they could do but accept them.....for the time being.
When the war ended and the USRA was disbanded things were handled a little differently and many cars went to new roads.

Cordially, Don Valentine
Re: Boxcar With "CT" In The Reporting Marks

Dave Parker
 

"CT" is a little too vague. My initial search came up with a ton of unrelated material.

Understandably.  But a search of "USRA AND CT" yields the answer straightaways.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA
27201 - 27220 of 183396