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Re: Paint color for inside model stock cars

Nelson Moyer
 

I understand prototype stock car interiors weren’t painted, however, I painted the inside of my stock cars the same color as the outside so the light gray resin wouldn’t show under low angle lighting.  Under normal operating conditions, the inside of the model cars is dark enough that the slat color isn’t visible. I bought a set of Sunshine profile cattle years ago, but I haven’t painted or installed them yet. With 26 stock cars, it doesn’t make much sense to have only one with a cattle load.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of spsalso via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2018 8:00 PM
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Subject: [RealSTMFC] Paint color for inside model stock cars

 

I've got some (brass, in this case) stock cars that need painting.  I've never painted a stock car before.  My plan is to spray the inside, fill it full of "stuff", and spray the outside.  Of course, the outside color is easy.  But I am wondering what to do with the inside.

So I thought I'd ask here:  What color do you folks paint the inside of your stock cars?

Thanks,

Ed

Edward Sutorik


group email address change?

Eric Hansmann
 

What's with the group email address change? I just noticed several messages came through from main@RealSTMFC.groups.io. The group email started as RealSTMFC@groups.io.

 

Why the change?

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN


40' truss rod flat cars

Richard Townsend
 

Does anyone make a good 40' truss rod flat car in HO?

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


Paint color for inside model stock cars

spsalso
 

I've got some (brass, in this case) stock cars that need painting.  I've never painted a stock car before.  My plan is to spray the inside, fill it full of "stuff", and spray the outside.  Of course, the outside color is easy.  But I am wondering what to do with the inside.

So I thought I'd ask here:  What color do you folks paint the inside of your stock cars?

Thanks,

Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: Retainers

Dave Nelson
 

Thank you all for the useful information!  Much appreciated as usual.

 

Dave Nelson


Re: Interesting B-50-17 pics

Bill Welch
 

Thank you for sharing these Bryian. I saved them to use when building my Sunshine "Private Stock" kit.

Bill Welch


On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 02:40 pm, al.kresse wrote:
Bryian


Re: Red Caboose C&S AAR 40' Boxcar Kit RC-8505-3b

Bill Welch
 

You give me too much credit Bryian as I am not an authority on the many postwar XM32 types ordered by the Burlington Route but more you needed a 10'6" car. I just checked one of my Undec Atlas ex-Branchline kits, their #20001384 and it includes the correct end but no Superior doors which are not hard to find. Was not Resin Car Works talking about releasing these cars?

Bill Welch


Re: Red Caboose C&S AAR 40' Boxcar Kit RC-8505-3b

Tim O'Connor
 


Ah! My mistake about the built date - C&S 1000-1499 were built at Havelock in 1950,
but otherwise have R+3/4 ends, diagonal panel roofs, 8 rung ladders. Not 5/5 ends.
I think they all had Youngstown doors, while 1500-1799 all appear to have received
Superior doors.

Tim O'Connor


Tim, I think maybe this is the car Bill W. is talking about https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=542&Categoryid=20

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA


Re: Two different trucks

Matt Smith
 

Many of the Nickel Plate riders cars ran on two different trucks. I guess being resourceful, if it rolls it works!

Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL


Re: Interesting B-50-17 pics

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

The C&O used this paint scheme on one side of a bunch of their PS1 box cars.  Clerks complained, once dirty, they were harder to read than white lettering.  C&O MAY have used a less bold Futura font .


Al Kresse

On May 5, 2018 at 5:04 PM "Bryian Sones via Groups.Io" <bryian.sones@...> wrote:

These Pics and more were taken by Gary Binder and posted to the "Union Pacific HO Model Railroading Group" on FB With his permission I share them with you. 
Gary and his wife took these pics in 2005 off of Highway 30 going through Kimble, Nebraska.  Note the ladders added to the car. Also something very interesting. The bottom set of 8 rivets near the end of the car are lower than most B-50-17 cars I've seen while modeling them. The two rows of rivets are below the top grab iron and usually appear above the top grab iron.






Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA.  


 


Interesting B-50-17 pics

Bryian Sones
 

These Pics and more were taken by Gary Binder and posted to the "Union Pacific HO Model Railroading Group" on FB With his permission I share them with you. 
Gary and his wife took these pics in 2005 off of Highway 30 going through Kimble, Nebraska.  Note the ladders added to the car. Also something very interesting. The bottom set of 8 rivets near the end of the car are lower than most B-50-17 cars I've seen while modeling them. The two rows of rivets are below the top grab iron and usually appear above the top grab iron.






Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA.  


Re: Red Caboose C&S AAR 40' Boxcar Kit RC-8505-3b

Bryian Sones
 

Tim, I think maybe this is the car Bill W. is talking about https://www.protocraft.com/category.cfm?ItemID=542&Categoryid=20 

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA



On Saturday, May 5, 2018 8:54 AM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



Brian, this is one of a number of Red Caboose releases using the old IMWX
tooling that were BOGUS... I have a whole list of them. ;-) They were done
shortly after RC acquired IMWX and may have been a desperation move. :-\

Bill is correct that is the 10-0 IH 1937 IMWX tooling. But I think Bill is
incorrect about the modified 1937 10-6 IH box car - the C&S did not own any
of those box cars.

When Red Caboose acquired the FRONT RANGE 40 foot box cars tooling, they did
release a VERY ACCURATE C&S XM32E (series 1000-1799). These kits are RC-8602-x.
These are the only all steel 40 foot box cars ever purchased by the C&S (in 1957)
and they allowed the C&S to retire their wood sheathed box cars.

I have an extra RC-8602-x kit if you would like to purchase it. They are correct
in every way including 5 panel Superior door, diagonal panel roof, and 8 rung ladders.

Tim O'Connor






Looking for an article on this kit if anyone recalls. I want to use this kit for a C&S car in the mid 1950's. Was this car correct out of the box or was this supposed to be an xm32c and I need to change the ends on the car to make it correct?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/112968253010


xm32c Ref. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1895400

I'm open to suggestions if there is a better option for this kit if it is not correct.

Thanks,

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA



Re: Retainers

Gene Green <genegreen1942@...>
 

Tank cars often have the retainer near the hand brake but between the running board and the tank itself.  They are often not very apparent because of their location but they are there, nonetheless.
Gene Green


Re: Red Caboose C&S AAR 40' Boxcar Kit RC-8505-3b

Tim O'Connor
 


Brian, this is one of a number of Red Caboose releases using the old IMWX
tooling that were BOGUS... I have a whole list of them. ;-) They were done
shortly after RC acquired IMWX and may have been a desperation move. :-\

Bill is correct that is the 10-0 IH 1937 IMWX tooling. But I think Bill is
incorrect about the modified 1937 10-6 IH box car - the C&S did not own any
of those box cars.

When Red Caboose acquired the FRONT RANGE 40 foot box cars tooling, they did
release a VERY ACCURATE C&S XM32E (series 1000-1799). These kits are RC-8602-x.
These are the only all steel 40 foot box cars ever purchased by the C&S (in 1957)
and they allowed the C&S to retire their wood sheathed box cars.

I have an extra RC-8602-x kit if you would like to purchase it. They are correct
in every way including 5 panel Superior door, diagonal panel roof, and 8 rung ladders.

Tim O'Connor






Looking for an article on this kit if anyone recalls. I want to use this kit for a C&S car in the mid 1950's. Was this car correct out of the box or was this supposed to be an xm32c and I need to change the ends on the car to make it correct?  https://www.ebay.com/itm/112968253010

xm32c Ref. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1895400

I'm open to suggestions if there is a better option for this kit if it is not correct.

Thanks,

Bryian Sones
Union Pacific Prototype Modeler
Murrieta, CA


Re: File extensions for saved photos

Joseph Melhorn
 

If you are using a PC with Windows Vista or later, you can use the built-in “Snipping Tool” to capture a portion of the screen, then save it to your hard drive, thumb drive, etc. Open a Search window (varies with the version of Windows you are using) and type “snipping tool” (without the quotes). The Snipping Tool app should appear at the top of the search window. While the search window is open and before you launch the app, you can right-click on the Snipping Tool app and pin a shortcut to it either to the Taskbar or the Start menu, for easier access in the future.

Once the image is on the screen that you want to capture/save, launch the Snipping Tool and you will see a small menu (New, delay, cancel or options) select New and your screen will turn translucent grey and you will see a large + (crosshair) cursor. Maneuver the cursor to the top left point on the screen where you want to start the capture, then hold down the left mouse button and drag right and down until you’ve lassoed the image that you want to save. Click the “Save” button, select the location where you want to save the capture to, give it a name and you’re done. The default is JPG.

Another tip, use the Ctrl-+ (plus) or Ctrl- (minus) (holding down the Control key while tapping either the + (plus) or - (minus) keys) to zoom in or out to adjust the size of the image you want to “capture”. If you Ctrl+ four times to zoom in, when you’re done, don’t forget to Ctrl- four times to return the screen back to normal.

Disclaimer: I do not advocate violating copyrights, do this for personal use only!

Joe Melhorn

Sahuarita, AZ

 


Re: Two different trucks

Jeff Coleman
 

I have worked a number of cars with mismatched trucks along past the cutoff date of this group.
As long as spring travel and wheel diameter was same it is legal in interchange.
Jeff Coleman

On Sat, May 5, 2018, 9:13 AM mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:
I have a shot of a T&P 40000 series 40' boxcar with a National B-1 and an ASF A-3, 1967.

Ron Merrick


Re: Two different trucks

mopacfirst
 

I have a shot of a T&P 40000 series 40' boxcar with a National B-1 and an ASF A-3, 1967.

Ron Merrick


Re: Retainers

mopacfirst
 

Other than some you can scare up out of old Sunshine resin miscellaneous part castings.  The beauty of those is there were often two or three each of some of the brake parts in those chunks of resin, perhaps because it didn't cost him anything to throw another one into the mold.

The resin backing around the retainer(s) is sometimes half thickness of the part itself.  Many of my IMWX 10'0" boxcars that had a big ugly rectangular box-shaped molding for the triple valve now have a spare Sunshine part.

Ron Merrick


Re: Looking for a better Miter Box—Help Please

Bill Welch
 

I do and I will.

Bill Welch


Re: Red Caboose C&S AAR 40' Boxcar Kit RC-8505-3b

Bill Welch
 

The Red Caboose kit is a 10-ft high 1937 car falsely stenciled as a Modified 1937 10' 6" high car. InterMountain's offers the 10' 6" high car w/5/5 Dreadnaught ens while Branchline/now Atlas has 10' 6" high car with Improved Dreadnaught end as shown in your second link.

Bill Welch