Re: Branchline /atlas parts
Bill Welch
Brian, to the extent this will help you here is the email address for the person at Alas I have found to be helpful: Steve Millenbach—smillenbach@.... I think his role is Customer Relations and he helped me ID stock numbers for Undec. 40-foot boxcar kits.
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Bill Welch
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 09:30 am, Brian Carlson wrote: Does anyone know if Atlas sells parts for the branchline postwar Box cars. I had a mishap and need to replace some parts.
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Re: Side-door Cabooses [was Why Transfer cabooses?]
Nelson Moyer
The 1911 law must have been amended or annulled at some point, because the converted boxcars had neither end platform or cupola, and they operated in Iowa based upon photographic evidence. This thread would be of interest to the CBQ group, where many former Q employees are members. It would be interesting to hear their first hand experiences.
Nelson Moyer
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On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 09:19 am, Nelson Moyer wrote:
But they did require end platforms. This link should take you to the announcement of the 1911 law:
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Re: Side-door Cabooses [was Why Transfer cabooses?]
Dennis Storzek
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 09:19 am, Nelson Moyer wrote:
But they did require end platforms. This link should take you to the announcement of the 1911 law: Caboose Cars I was also interested to learn that Lorenzo S. Coffin, the railroad safety crusader from the late nineteenth century, was an Iowa state railroad commissioner. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Canadian National Eight-Hatch Reefers
al_brown03
True Line Trains did *both* CN and CP versions, and their 'Web site discusses the physical differences.
Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: Canadian National Eight-Hatch Reefers
Richard Townsend
Go to their website: http://www.truelinetrains.ca/freight-cars/ho---8-hatch-reefer
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Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: Armand Premo <arm.p.prem@...> To: main <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Sent: Wed, May 23, 2018 11:14 am Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Canadian National Eight-Hatch Reefers Which one did True Line trains do ?Armand Premo
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:
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Re: Canadian National Eight-Hatch Reefers
Pierre Oliver
I have no idea Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com On 5/23/18 2:11 PM, Armand Premo wrote:
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Re: Canadian National Eight-Hatch Reefers
Armand Premo
Which one did True Line trains do ?Armand Premo
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Pierre Oliver <pierre.oliver@...> wrote:
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Re: Side-door Cabooses [was Why Transfer cabooses?]
BillM
The FEC used wooden side door cabs into the 60s when they
began to abandon cabs altogether. Some of the wooden side door cabooses were
sold to other railroads so they may be seen relettered and on other
railroads.
Bill Michael
From: Nelson Moyer
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Side-door Cabooses [was Why Transfer
cabooses?] In addition to the conventional side door waycars, the CB&Q also had converted coach waycars in class CW-1 through CW-6, and converted box cars in class NE-5 that were used as waycars. Both had side doors and end doors. The converted coaches had platforms on both ends but the box cars didn’t have end platforms. Most of the converted boxcars had one of the side windows extended outward like a bay window. The converted coaches had a cupola, but the box cars did not. Some of both waycar types were still on the roster in 1953. Photos show converted boxcars in IL and NE and converted coaches in Il, IA, NE, and SD. Photos also show conventional side door waycars in IL, IA, NE, and SD between 1963-1976. I’m pretty sure that Iowa did not ban side door waycars in any form.
For a definitive book on Q waycars, consult The Burlington Waycars by Danniel, Reis, and Douda, published by Mile Post 206 Publishing, Inc.
Nelson Moyer
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Dennis Storzek
It may have been the IC's own doing, deciding that a
conservative interpretation of the language of the law was cheaper and easier
than a fight later on. I googled this issue and some of the discussion seemed to
indicate that there was such a law in Iowa but that it had been repealed or
amended decades ago.
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Re: Side-door Cabooses [was Why Transfer cabooses?]
Nelson Moyer
In addition to the conventional side door waycars, the CB&Q also had converted coach waycars in class CW-1 through CW-6, and converted box cars in class NE-5 that were used as waycars. Both had side doors and end doors. The converted coaches had platforms on both ends but the box cars didn’t have end platforms. Most of the converted boxcars had one of the side windows extended outward like a bay window. The converted coaches had a cupola, but the box cars did not. Some of both waycar types were still on the roster in 1953. Photos show converted boxcars in IL and NE and converted coaches in Il, IA, NE, and SD. Photos also show conventional side door waycars in IL, IA, NE, and SD between 1963-1976. I’m pretty sure that Iowa did not ban side door waycars in any form.
For a definitive book on Q waycars, consult The Burlington Waycars by Danniel, Reis, and Douda, published by Mile Post 206 Publishing, Inc.
Nelson Moyer
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On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
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It may have been the IC's own doing, deciding that a conservative interpretation of the language of the law was cheaper and easier than a fight later on. I googled this issue and some of the discussion seemed to indicate that there was
such a law in Iowa but that it had been repealed or amended decades ago.
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Re: Canadian National Eight-Hatch Reefers
Pierre Oliver
Bob, Starting in RMC Dec, 1995, for 3 parts, Stafford Swain wrote an
in depth series of articles on all the variations of Canadian
built 8 hatch reefers. Pierre Oliver www.elgincarshops.com www.yarmouthmodelworks.com On 5/23/18 11:45 AM, Bob Chaparro
wrote:
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Canadian National Eight-Hatch Reefers
An brief article on the history of these cars, along with a more lengthy description on kit-bashing one, appeared in the November 1983 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman. A drawing of the car appeared in the November 1964 issue of Model Railroader. From the RMC article I gathered that the eight hatch Canadian Pacific reefers were a bit different than the CN reefers. Does anyone know how these Canadian Pacific reefers differed? Thanks. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Branchline /atlas parts
John Monrad
The limited number of Branchline parts can be accessed at If that doesn't work on your browser, type in BL1 in the Atlas search box. John Monrad
On Wed, May 23, 2018, 8:07 AM Brian Carlson via Groups.Io <prrk41361=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Thanks but those are not parts for the former Branchline postwar boxcars that I was looking for in my original post.
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Re: Side-door Cabooses [was Why Transfer cabooses?]
David Soderblom
Side-door cabooses were for branchline service so the crew could handle modest amount of LCL easily.
David Soderblom Baltimore MD david.soderblom@gmail.com
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Re: Side-door Cabooses [was Why Transfer cabooses?]
Dennis Storzek
It may have been the IC's own doing, deciding that a conservative interpretation of the language of the law was cheaper and easier than a fight later on. I googled this issue and some of the discussion seemed to indicate that there was such a law in Iowa but that it had been repealed or amended decades ago.
I also ran into a discussion of what exactly constitutes a "side door caboose." The gist of the argument was that the laws were intended to outlaw the converted boxcars that had no end platforms, just a long step under the former door location. These were dangerous, as they were hard to mount and dismount when moving, and that style did universally go out of existence. Problem might have been some states laws were worded too broadly, allowing the interpretation that ANY door on the side of a caboose was prohibited. I can see these being amended early on. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Side-door Cabooses [was Why Transfer cabooses?]
Clark Propst
It seems only the IC cabooses we outlawed in Iowa? Don’t think they were
considered to have actual doors.
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: Branchline /atlas parts
Clark Propst
Don’t know what part you need. Consider using another ‘like’ part as a
wreck damage replacement? Makes for some fun weathering options. 80% of my
modeling is damage control... ; ))
Clark
Propst Mason City Iowa
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Re: Branchline /atlas parts
Thanks but those are not parts for the former Branchline postwar boxcars that I was looking for in my original post.
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Brian J. Carlson
On May 23, 2018, at 7:52 AM, Charles Happel via Groups.Io <cghappel2001=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Branchline /atlas parts
Charles Happel
Try: https://shop.atlasrr.com/c-1460-ho-tm-40-pd-box-car-spare-parts.aspx
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Chuck Happel The weirder you're going to behave, the more normal you should look. It works in reverse, too. When I see a kid with three or four rings in his nose, I know there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about that person. P. J. O'Rourke --------------------------------------------
On Wed, 5/23/18, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@att.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Branchline /atlas parts To: "main@RealSTMFC.groups.io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Date: Wednesday, May 23, 2018, 6:51 AM Chuck Happel wrote: "Look under Trainman frt. car parts." Not seeing them.https://shop.atlasrr.com/c-1079-ho-trainman-rolling-stock-spar.aspxGot a link? Ben Hom
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Re: Branchline /atlas parts
Benjamin Hom
Chuck Happel wrote: "Look under Trainman frt. car parts." Not seeing them. Got a link? Ben Hom
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Re: Branchline /atlas parts
Charles Happel
Look under Trainman frt. car parts.
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Chuck Happel The weirder you're going to behave, the more normal you should look. It works in reverse, too. When I see a kid with three or four rings in his nose, I know there is absolutely nothing extraordinary about that person. P. J. O'Rourke --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 5/22/18, bflynnd1 via Groups.Io <bflynn562=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Branchline /atlas parts To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Date: Tuesday, May 22, 2018, 9:43 PM No I ordered them on the website. I am away from my computer now, but I can send you a link tomorrow when I get time to look it up. Brian Flynn > On May 22, 2018, at 5:47 PM, Brian Carlson via Groups.Io <prrk41361=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: > > Did you call them? The parts aren’t on their website. > > Brian J. Carlson >> On May 22, 2018, at 6:45 PM, bflynnd1 via Groups.Io <bflynn562=aol.com@groups.io> wrote: >> >> Not sure what parts you’re looking for, but I just ordered some doors and roofs last week and got them in a few days. If you’re looking for other parts ie ladders or grabs, I might have some, not sure but I can look. >> >> Brian Flynn >>> On May 22, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Brian Carlson via Groups.Io <prrk41361=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: >>> >>> Does anyone know if Atlas sells parts for the branchline postwar Box cars. I had a mishap and need to replace some parts. >>> >>> Brian J. Carlson >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > >
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