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Re: unknown vinegar tank car
Ken O'Brien wrote
>> RMC did an article in October 2007 on a Richter Vinegar Company car, >> reporting marks of RVCX Thanks Ken. Three different cars in 1950 (#11 #12 #14) and one left in 1959 (#14 8,178 gallons). Tim O'Connor
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series
radiodial868
Yeah, it's the shield with tree at the bottom. For once F&C did a decal that wasn't just blobs, these are really nice. The fact that one style included is white outlined and the other the inverse, was hoping that one was early and the other later. It is a 1927 boxcar after all.
http://www.fandckits.com/HOFreight/6550.html Looks like plan ol' "Bangor & Aroostook". Still a cool name though. It's going to carry high quality paper mill products from Maine to California (at least in my world). Thanks, RJ Dial
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Northern Pacific 9875 DS Box car
Lester Breuer
I have added another box car to my fleet, a Sunshine Models Resin kit, Northern Pacific 9875 DS Box Car. Photos of build and writeup including changes from kit, paint, etc. are on my blog I started to share photos and writeup on Freight Cars, etc. of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company. If you would like to take a look please do at the following:
http://mnrailroadcab100. Lester Breuer
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Re: unknown vinegar tank car
al_brown03
I'm not an expert on vinegar cars, but the combination of the extra-heavy fishbelly underframe and the two tanks is, I'd think, semi-distinctive. Several cars more or less like this are shown in Leider, "Pickle and Vinegar Makers of the Midwest", chapter 6.
Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: Broadway hopper lettering removal
Dave Parker
Curt:
I am away from home and it's been a while since I worked on my Broadway Limited ARA hoppers (B&M), but I have this vague recollection that they weren't painted. Just pad printing on black ABS (I think). But I am glad for the Pine Sol tip, because I didn't have much luck with my other approaches. Again working from memory, I think the 91% iso attacked the lettering and the base plastic at about the same rate, not a desirable outcome. Dave Parker Riverside, CA
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Re: unknown vinegar tank car
mopacfirst
One more:
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Re: unknown vinegar tank car
mopacfirst
I thought, wait a minute, Sunshine did a kit for this one. Actually, the Sunshine kit (numbers 60.x with choice of lettering, all Fleischmann or SBIX) had one single, longer, tank on, guessing here, a shorter steel frame. This car could have simply had greater total capacity by volume, or could be that the smaller tanks could have been easier to fabricate, assemble and install.
Ron Merrick
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DT&I 14300-14549
My notes say these cars were built by Greenville, but a photo appears to
show ACF "car builder ends" (with dimples). I can't find these in any of the Ed Hawkins' spreadsheets on 40 foot postwar box cars Thanks Tim O'Connor
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Re: unknown vinegar tank car
And Ambroid offered a kit of that car many years ago. We’ve also mentioned vinegar cars with two tanks on the list before.
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Here’s one in the Green Bay museum
http://www.davidpride.com/USA/Wisconsin/GreenBay_11_015.htm Regards Bruce
Bruce F. Smith Auburn, AL "Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."
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Re: unknown vinegar tank car
RMC did an article in October 2007 on a Richter Vinegar Company car, reporting marks of RVCX. They had an earlier article in the December 2000 RMC.
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Re: unknown vinegar tank car
I have a similar car, supposedly SBIX marks; see attached. It's coupled to a standard-looking SBIX car.
Thanks! -- Brian Ehni On 6/12/18, 1:26 PM, "Tim O'Connor" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io on behalf of timboconnor@comcast.net> wrote: I've never seen this particular style of vinegar tank car before. Anyone have an idea of its reporting marks or its story? Tim O'Connor
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unknown vinegar tank car
I've never seen this particular style of vinegar tank car before.
Anyone have an idea of its reporting marks or its story? Tim O'Connor
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Re: Broadway hopper lettering removal
Most definitely the paints used by Athearn and Accurail will "blush" (or bloom as you call it) with alcohol. It affects Athearn paints more strongly than Accurail. This can be very useful when weathering with alcohol washes, especially gondola and hopper car interiors. Walthers (not Proto) paint is much less vulnerable to this effect, or at least it used to be. And yeah lettering and paint are often different formulas - many times I've stripped a car and only the paint is gone and the lettering remains in part or in full. Tim O'Connor
I find that 91% ISOH tends to leave a sort of "bloom" on the surface of cars, which is not entirely removed by an overcoat of clear matte or semi-matte varnish.
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Re: Broadway hopper lettering removal
Jeff Coleman
Garth Thanks for the heads up. Jeff Coleman
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 1:47 PM Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote:
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Re: Broadway hopper lettering removal
Barry Roth
I find that 91% ISOH tends to leave a sort of "bloom" on the surface of cars, which is not entirely removed by an overcoat of clear matte or semi-matte varnish. Barry Roth
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 10:47:06 AM PDT, Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote:
Jeff, I've had 91% isopropyl alcohol attack some plastics. Caution is in order. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🏴 On 6/12/18 8:06 AM, Jeff Coleman wrote:
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Re: Broadway hopper lettering removal
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Jeff,
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I've had 91% isopropyl alcohol attack some plastics. Caution is in order. Yours Aye, Garth Groff 🏴
On 6/12/18 8:06 AM, Jeff Coleman wrote:
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Re: [Espee] The Slow Death Of A Boxcar
Alex Huff
The bagasse that wasn't used as boiler fuel was shipped by rail after being baled into cubes roughly three feet on a side. In Louisiana, the destination was a Johns-Manville plant in Harvey, LA, a suburb of New Orleans. The plant converted the bagasse after grinding it into a rough cardboard like product under the brand name Celotex. It was used as interior paneling for both walls and ceilings. The rail move was in gons that were on their last legs, sprung sidewalls and end walls due to overloading and not uncommon were gons with bowed centersills from being grossly overloaded. My first job on a Class I railroad was switching the Johns-Manville plant in 1973.
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series
Don Burn
Looking at Ted Culotta's book on the 1932 AAR boxcars it appears that the shield herald was late 1940's. There was a circular herald somewhat earlier, then before that no herald just lettering. I am not sure what herald you have, but the shield definitely is post your time frame.
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of richard glueck via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:10 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series Which nifty herald would that be? I can do a little research, but I don't see an illustration to point to the correct direction. Dick (Bangor, Maine) On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 4:54:01 AM EDT, paul.doggett2472 via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472=yahoo.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: Looking good RJ. Paul Doggett England 🏴 On 12 Jun 2018, at 05:46, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@comcast.net <mailto:timboconnor@comcast.net> > wrote: One of the manufactured products made in Maine was clothes pins - certainly a common item in your era. Your BAR box car could be delivering a load of those to a warehouse. :-) Another example is wooden Diamond Matches - those were made at a huge mill in the Duluth Superior area served by GN. Photos show dozens of freight cars at a time, from all over. Matches were extremely popular in those days. Tim Don't know what possessed a western road guy to build a New England 1927 BAR SS boxcar (F&C #6550), but I did. Nice little kit. I know nothing about the BAR, any of your East Coasters know when the BAR started using that nifty herald that came with the kit? (instructions don't say) I model 1939. All painted and waiting for decals (see attached). RJ Dial Burlingame, CA Attachments: * 2018_06_11 20.20.33.jpg <https://RealSTMFC.groups.io/g/main/attachment/156952/0> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&;utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&;utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail>
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Re: Broadway hopper lettering removal
John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
I tried 91% Isopropyl Alcohol with a Q-tip to remove lettering on a Bachmann 2-8-0 tender. The black paint on the tender body came off nicely, which I didn’t want, except where the lettering was; I mean is. So now I have an unpainted spot with Dulux gold lettering. John Hagen
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman
I'm not sure this wouldn't attack the base paint but 91% Isopropyl Alcohol and Q-tip may work. Good luck
Jeff Coleman
On Tue, Jun 12, 2018, 7:43 AM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:
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Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series
richard glueck
Which nifty herald would that be? I can do a little research, but I don't see an illustration to point to the correct direction. Dick (Bangor, Maine)
On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 4:54:01 AM EDT, paul.doggett2472 via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:
Looking good RJ. Paul Doggett England 🏴
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