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Re: Pine-Sol, was RE: [RealSTMFC] Broadway hopper lettering removal

spsalso
 

I used lye to remove paint from AHM passenger cars.  It never attacked the plastic.


Ed

Edward Sutorik


Re: looking for a copy of Greg Martin's RS-3 presentation at Cocoa this year.,

O Fenton Wells
 

Don't have the presentation but here is Greg's email  <tgregmrtn@aol.com>
Fenton Wells

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:29 AM, Bill McCoy <wpmccoy@...> wrote:
I'm looking for a copy of Greg Martin's RS-3 presentation at Cocoa this year. My notes seem to have disappeared along with Greg's Email address. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill McCoy




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Re: Pine-Sol, was RE: [RealSTMFC] Broadway hopper lettering removal

Curt Fortenberry
 


As for soaking, that's what I do and I so far haven't had any problems.  I typically soak about 24-48 hours depending on stubbornness. 

As a reminder, here's a video on the subject from Brian Banna:  https://youtu.be/XtqEDuiZfzk

Curt Fortenberry


Re: looking for a copy of Greg Martin's RS-3 presentation at Cocoa this year.,

Armand Premo
 

Me too,Armand Premo


On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:30 AM Bill McCoy <wpmccoy@...> wrote:
I'm looking for a copy of Greg Martin's RS-3 presentation at Cocoa this year. My notes seem to have disappeared along with Greg's Email address. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill McCoy


looking for a copy of Greg Martin's RS-3 presentation at Cocoa this year.,

Bill McCoy
 

I'm looking for a copy of Greg Martin's RS-3 presentation at Cocoa this year. My notes seem to have disappeared along with Greg's Email address. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

Bill McCoy


Re: Pine-Sol, was RE: [RealSTMFC] Broadway hopper lettering removal

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

I've used Pine-Sol for years and I haven't had any plastic melt or soften. The only issue I have had is on old AHM/Rivarossi cars. I tried to strip several cars and found it took upwards of 2 weeks soaking and scrubbing with a toothbrush to remove the paint. The really bad thing was after it removed the paint the lettering and the car color under it were still there! The lettering then looked like the raised numbers on the cabs of CN steam engines. I tried several other things to lose the lettering and finally just threw the cars away.

I have had the 91% alcohol blush plastic before but painting over it left no traces.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Wednesday, June 13, 2018, 8:33:37 AM CDT, Ken Roth <krowth3249@...> wrote:


I have successfully used Pine-Sol to remove lettering from Intermountain cars, but only applied to the lettering itself.  In fact, I have not found anything else that would cut through this the pad printing. I too would never advocate submersion in this stuff.

Ken Roth


Re: Bangor & Aroostook 1927 Boxcar 61000 series

richard glueck
 

I checked Jerry Angier's BAR history this morning.  I could not find a definitive date, but the shield started appearing in the mid-late 40's.  When BAR bought the used, wood sided MDT reefers, some of which were famously painted in red, white, and blue, in 1949-50, they each received the shield herald.
Pictured is my 1/8th scale BAR reefer.

On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, 8:44:29 PM EDT, radiodial868 <radiodial@...> wrote:


This was the shield herald.  I guess now I have to figure out if 1939 was an "and" or a "&".
RJ Dial

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Re: CGW 92000 Series Boxcar Color (Chicago Mini Kit 2017)

Clark Propst
 

I have no 'correct' color info for the 91 - 92000 series' cars. The CGW equipment registers sometimes have that info, but not for these cars. Maybe sometimes we get too picky anyway? Paint practices in 51 would be to delete the Cornbelt emblem.  I believe that the simple just initials and number scheme was a year or two in the future? Many of these cars were sold and leased back renumbered in the late 50s - 60s? Some of the remaining cars may never have been repainted. I photographed one in the 90s in it's as delivered lettering.
Clark Propst


Re: unknown vinegar tank car

sooauthor@netzero.net
 

My guess is that it is a double tank Heinz car, although it could be a Richter car. Both still had them at that time and most of the lettering had worn off.

David Leider
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Re: Pine-Sol, was RE: [RealSTMFC] Broadway hopper lettering removal

Ken Roth
 

I have successfully used Pine-Sol to remove lettering from Intermountain cars, but only applied to the lettering itself.  In fact, I have not found anything else that would cut through this the pad printing. I too would never advocate submersion in this stuff.

Ken Roth


CGW 92000 Series Boxcar Color (Chicago Mini Kit 2017)

Matt Smith
 

I've seen some variation in the colors of the CGW 92,000 Boxcars people are building. Some are more brown and some are more red. I don't have a lot of knowledge of CGW paint practices circa 1951. Can anyone with more CGW knowledge share what paint data they have for a more accurate paint color of these CGW 92,000's AS BUILT.

Thanks in advance.
Matt Smith
Bloomington IL


Re: Northern Pacific 9875 DS Box car

gtws00
 

Great looking car.
Thanks for sharing the build write up info.
George Toman


Re: Broadway hopper lettering removal

Walter Cox
 

The same thing happened to me with a Branchline boxcar.
Walter Cox

In a message dated 6/12/2018 9:22:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, sprinthag@... writes:

I tried 91% Isopropyl Alcohol with a Q-tip to remove lettering on a Bachmann 2-8-0 tender. The black paint on the tender body came off nicely, which I didn’t want, except where the lettering was; I mean is. So now I have an unpainted spot with Dulux gold lettering.

John Hagen_._,_._,_


Re: DT&I 14300-14549

T.J. Stratton
 

Tim,


Check the spreadsheet titled : Postwar R-3-4 IDN.  There is also a mention of the cars on the website www.dti.railfan.net 



TJ Stratton Maumee, OH. "Modeling the 1950's branch lines of the New York Central Railroad  in Lenawee County, Michigan" Mailto:michigancentralrr@...



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 2:49 PM
To: stmfc
Subject: [RealSTMFC] DT&I 14300-14549
 

My notes say these cars were built by Greenville, but a photo appears to
show ACF "car builder ends" (with dimples). I can't find these in any of the
Ed Hawkins' spreadsheets on 40 foot postwar box cars

Thanks

Tim O'Connor





Re: [Espee] The Slow Death Of A Boxcar

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Oh, so THAT is what that crap was made from.  Pardon my French, but if used as paneling in a humid environment, the building could never get dried out again.  Worked as a sponge quite well . . .

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alex Huff
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:18 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] [Espee] The Slow Death Of A Boxcar

 

The bagasse that wasn't used as boiler fuel was shipped by rail after being baled into cubes roughly three feet on a side.  In Louisiana, the destination was a Johns-Manville plant in Harvey, LA, a suburb of New Orleans.  The plant converted the bagasse after grinding it into a rough cardboard like product under the brand name Celotex.  It was used as interior paneling for both walls and ceilings.  The rail move was in gons that were on their last legs, sprung sidewalls and end walls due to overloading and not uncommon were gons with bowed centersills from being grossly overloaded.  My first job on a Class I railroad was switching the Johns-Manville plant in 1973.         


Pine-Sol, was RE: [RealSTMFC] Broadway hopper lettering removal

Schuyler Larrabee
 

A caution on using Pine-Sol.  Friends of mine and I have had plastic models attacked and essentially destroyed by submerging in Pine-Sol.  In my case, it was a freight car which I could not replace, at least not until a time when I no longer was hot to do the project involved.  The cars became soft and deformed.

 

I’ve also seen cars submerged in Pine-Sol and they have emerged with no issues at all.

 

Go figure.

 

But also be very cautious about cavalier use of Pine-Sol as a stripper.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dave Parker via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 4:56 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Broadway hopper lettering removal

 

Curt:

I am away from home and it's been a while since I worked on my Broadway Limited ARA hoppers (B&M), but I have this vague recollection that they weren't painted.  Just pad printing on black ABS (I think). 

But I am glad for the Pine Sol tip, because I didn't have much luck with my other approaches.  Again working from memory, I think the 91% iso attacked the lettering and the base plastic at about the same rate, not a desirable outcome.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: unknown vinegar tank car

Tim O'Connor
 


Yes, Ted Culotta posted that one before... although the "Type 30" is a mystery to me.

A GATC Type 30 tank car underframe is quite different than this.



GATX #2586 twin tank GATC Type 30 vinegar

Clark Cone


On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@... > wrote:

I've never seen this particular style of vinegar tank car before.
Anyone have an idea of its reporting marks or its story?

Tim O'Connor

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Re: unknown vinegar tank car

Misc Clark
 

GATX #2586 twin tank GATC Type 30 vinegar

Clark Cone

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

I've never seen this particular style of vinegar tank car before.
Anyone have an idea of its reporting marks or its story?

Tim O'Connor





Re: unknown vinegar tank car

Benjamin Hom
 

Chuck Peck wrote:
"I recall there being a similar car at the National Railroad Museum in Green Bay."

RVCX 20.


Ben Hom


Re: Broadway hopper lettering removal

Curt Fortenberry
 


I too wondered if there was paint on the side but the sides and ends had a matt like texture so I believe it was painted, could be wrong.  The rest of the car was shiny black like no paint.

Curt Fortenberry