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Milwaukee 70 ton reefer - where has it been used?

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello friends,

I consider buying a Milwaukee 70 ton reefer such as this one:

https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/067632/HO-Scale-Brass-Model-Train-OMI-Overland-3163-MILW-CM-STP-Milwaukee-Road-70-Ton-Reefer-89040-Custom

Would the prototype be a more or less common sight in normal freight service, too, or was it used only in passenger or fast mail trains?

Many thanks for any help

Johannes, modeling a time frame around 1950, +/- one or two years


Minneapolis & St. Louis URTX Reefer

Sean Murphy
 

Hi everyone,

I am interested in doing a Westerfield kit #6607. It is a Type 2A AC&F Reefer labeled for URTX/M&StL. My question lies with appropriate colors and/or photos of the prototype. It appears that black ends and a roof are appropriate with reefer yellow sides, but I am not certain. Can anyone that knows the M&StL enlighten me? I believe they are a 95000 series car.

Thanks ahead of time.


Re: Used book sites

Tom Madden
 

Jared Harper wrote:
> I would just Google the title and sites will come up.

This is bizarre. I wasn't sure what Jared was replying to, so, since I was reading his post on the web, I clicked the <back> arrow to see the previous post in the thread. (The thread "Used book sites".) Got a jolt when the previous post turned out to be from Richard Hendrickson of Ashland, Oregon! Then I saw the date of Richard's post: 12/12/2000. Dang, I thought for a moment.....

I've noticed before that if you choose a topic title that matches word for word one that has been used,previously, no matter how long in the past that might have been, your post will show as a reply to that thread and not as a new one.

Tom Madden


Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Two

Bill Welch
 

Among the distinctive differences for the Wabash version of the War Emergency boxcars is the look of the sill area so I started there by fabricating the long Tab that I have finished. Then I used short lengths of 2 x 3 strip styrene to create a beefier lower sill or plate between the bracing. I did not worry about being too precise with these as they will be covers with gusset plates.

I then fabricated the Towing Loops and used bits of .005 styrene to create their attachment flanges.

Bill Welch


Re: Used book sites

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jun 27, 2018, at 8:29 PM, Jared Harper wrote:

I would just Google the title and sites will come up.
bookfinder.com is one web porta to a veritable horde of online booksellers.
--
Nolan Hinshaw, San Francisco


Re: Used book sites

Jared Harper
 

I would just Google the title and sites will come up.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: US Navy Box Cars

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Ken,

I'm not sure how the cars were originally lettered, but I have a photo of the WRM car when it was donated to the museum. See our photo section, page 9, my Album 7, the third photo.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

On 6/27/18 6:31 PM, Ken Adams wrote:
I am in the long drawn out process of converting a pair of Accurail 36 foot 14xx series steel end box cars into cars the D&RGW sold as surplus to the Navy to replace cars destroyed in the July 1944 Port Chicago (California) explosion which killed several hundred sailors and others. I have pretty much finished the first car based on the recent Rio Grande Modeling and Historical Society Prospector Volume 17 #2 article by Jim Spencer. 

Today I was able to go to the Western Railway Museum near Rio Vista California and get some additional detail pictures of one of the cars they have preserved. I was also able to view their older rooster document that shows the Navy reporting numbers for the 3 cars they received as 61-00200, 61-00201 and 61-00202.  In some  subsequent internet research I found a reference that the US Navy implemented a uniform system of numbering railroad equipment about 1948 of 1949 in which the 61 prefix was used for box cars. Other documents have indicated the 65-nnnnn series was used for diesel switchers. A lot of Google searching was unable to help with a complete numbering scheme or any further documentation on the numbering,

If anyone has any more information about the original pre-1948 Navy box car numbers or the renumbering in general, I would appreciate it. 

Thus far I have modified the Accurail cars according to the Prospector article with modified cross beam locations and the angle of the bolsters. I trimmed the lower side of the car body to eliminate a ledge that was not on the prototype, changed the lateral roof walks and added 24 inch grab irons to the sides. I also changed the end sill to simulate a steel channel. I sprayed the body with Tamiya Premium Fine White Primer which produces a flat slightly grayed white surface that appears to match the pictures I have seen of other Navy box cars. With what I know now I can go ahead and use the Clover House US Navy transfers to model preserved ex D&RGW 63383 as US Navy 61-00203. In the WRM documentation it appears the car had arch bar trucks when received by the museum. 

There is still much more detail work until I decide it is "good enough". 



Re: Reboxx

Tim O'Connor
 



John's email = jeburr1@...


I called John Burrows at Reboxx (978-568-9941) - there is a message on the answering service that essentially says that 1. they are still in business, but 2. they are in a transition stage - whatever that means, but are taking orders and to leave a message.  (I think I heard the same message about 6 months ago)
best I can do Pierre, norm buckhart



> Has any one heard from the people at reboxx, lately.
> I've had a large order with them for months now with no responses
> Pierre Oliver


US Navy Box Cars

Ken Adams
 

I am in the long drawn out process of converting a pair of Accurail 36 foot 14xx series steel end box cars into cars the D&RGW sold as surplus to the Navy to replace cars destroyed in the July 1944 Port Chicago (California) explosion which killed several hundred sailors and others. I have pretty much finished the first car based on the recent Rio Grande Modeling and Historical Society Prospector Volume 17 #2 article by Jim Spencer. 

Today I was able to go to the Western Railway Museum near Rio Vista California and get some additional detail pictures of one of the cars they have preserved. I was also able to view their older rooster document that shows the Navy reporting numbers for the 3 cars they received as 61-00200, 61-00201 and 61-00202.  In some  subsequent internet research I found a reference that the US Navy implemented a uniform system of numbering railroad equipment about 1948 of 1949 in which the 61 prefix was used for box cars. Other documents have indicated the 65-nnnnn series was used for diesel switchers. A lot of Google searching was unable to help with a complete numbering scheme or any further documentation on the numbering,

If anyone has any more information about the original pre-1948 Navy box car numbers or the renumbering in general, I would appreciate it. 

Thus far I have modified the Accurail cars according to the Prospector article with modified cross beam locations and the angle of the bolsters. I trimmed the lower side of the car body to eliminate a ledge that was not on the prototype, changed the lateral roof walks and added 24 inch grab irons to the sides. I also changed the end sill to simulate a steel channel. I sprayed the body with Tamiya Premium Fine White Primer which produces a flat slightly grayed white surface that appears to match the pictures I have seen of other Navy box cars. With what I know now I can go ahead and use the Clover House US Navy transfers to model preserved ex D&RGW 63383 as US Navy 61-00203. In the WRM documentation it appears the car had arch bar trucks when received by the museum. 

There is still much more detail work until I decide it is "good enough". 


Re: Reboxx

James Brewer
 

cardboard storage boxes for your steam era freight cars are also available from Spring Mills Depot....


Jim Brewer
Glenwood MD

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 11:44 AM, Norm Buckhart <norm@...> wrote:
Denny - I think some of us are interested in the cardboard model storage boxes - are they still doing that?  Norm buckhart

On Jun 27, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...> wrote:

> The owner of Reboxx is a personal (beyond modeling) friend, and he has asked me to report that at the moment Reboxx is in an interim quiet period, and that it is NOT going out of business.  The family member at the business end of the  phone is now out of state.
>
> Also at the moment, they are completely out of 33” wheel sets with 1.020, 1.025, and 1.030 axle lengths with no known date for replacement.   
>
> As side addendums, Reboxx’s long sharing of ownership with Intermountain has ended, and some recent uncertainties in Chinese production quality have taken a toll (problems all  caught before sale).
>
> Stay tuned…..
>
> Denny
>
> Denny S. Anspach MD
> Okoboji, IA
>
>
>
>






Re: Reboxx

Norm Buckhart
 

Denny - I think some of us are interested in the cardboard model storage boxes - are they still doing that? Norm buckhart

On Jun 27, 2018, at 8:39 AM, Denny Anspach <danspachmd@gmail.com> wrote:

The owner of Reboxx is a personal (beyond modeling) friend, and he has asked me to report that at the moment Reboxx is in an interim quiet period, and that it is NOT going out of business. The family member at the business end of the phone is now out of state.

Also at the moment, they are completely out of 33” wheel sets with 1.020, 1.025, and 1.030 axle lengths with no known date for replacement.

As side addendums, Reboxx’s long sharing of ownership with Intermountain has ended, and some recent uncertainties in Chinese production quality have taken a toll (problems all caught before sale).

Stay tuned…..

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Okoboji, IA




Re: Reboxx

Pierre Oliver
 

Thanks Denny

Pierre Oliver
www.elgincarshops.com
www.yarmouthmodelworks.com

On 6/27/18 11:39 AM, Denny Anspach wrote:
The owner of Reboxx is a personal (beyond modeling) friend, and he has asked me to report that at the moment Reboxx is in an interim quiet period, and that it is NOT going out of business. The family member at the business end of the phone is now out of state.

Also at the moment, they are completely out of 33” wheel sets with 1.020, 1.025, and 1.030 axle lengths with no known date for replacement.

As side addendums, Reboxx’s long sharing of ownership with Intermountain has ended, and some recent uncertainties in Chinese production quality have taken a toll (problems all caught before sale).

Stay tuned…..

Denny
Denny S. Anspach MD
Okoboji, IA



Re: Reboxx

Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
 

The owner of Reboxx is a personal (beyond modeling) friend, and he has asked me to report that at the moment Reboxx is in an interim quiet period, and that it is NOT going out of business. The family member at the business end of the phone is now out of state.

Also at the moment, they are completely out of 33” wheel sets with 1.020, 1.025, and 1.030 axle lengths with no known date for replacement.

As side addendums, Reboxx’s long sharing of ownership with Intermountain has ended, and some recent uncertainties in Chinese production quality have taken a toll (problems all caught before sale).

Stay tuned…..

Denny

Denny S. Anspach MD
Okoboji, IA


Re: Reboxx

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 6/26/2018 10:24 AM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
I was just in Des Plaines Hobbies on Sunday, and they seem to have
every Reboxx wheel set in stock.

 Did you ask them for any information on Reboxx?

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
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Re: Reboxx

Tim O'Connor
 


I was just in Des Plaines Hobbies on Sunday, and they seem to have
every Reboxx wheel set in stock. If you have difficulty finding things
you can always try the full service hobby shops - there are still a few
of them out there!

Tim O'Connor



The last correspondence I had with them was in Sept 2016. Scott Barger replied to an email I sent about wheelsets in lengths 1.010 to 1.040. He indicated they would be placing a large order soon back then including sending a large order to a dealer near me. I don't believe the dealer received that order as I requested an email when they arrived. Hope somethings gets worked out soon!

Jeff Adams
Frederick, MD


Re: Wabash War Emergency Boxcar

Bill Welch
 

Thank you Fred. Just trying to encourage others to model and see potential offered by available kits. I do wish others would share what they are doing here.

Bill Welch


Re: Wabash War Emergency Boxcar

Fred Jansz
 

Hi Bill,
There must be at least 30+ hours in your 24-hr days!
No I'm not jealous, just an admirer of your skills and dedication.
Which is a never ending inspiration for us, your faithful followers.
thank you and cheers,
Fred Jansz


Life Cycle Of The Evans Auto-Loader Car

Bob Chaparro
 

From the article below I read that the Evans Auto-Loader car, built for the New York Central, first appeared in 1954. This car soon was followed by similar cars used by Union Pacific and Santa Fe. I also saw a photo of a similar car, a circa 1957, from the Frisco.

My question is, what was the life cycle of these cars and were very many put into service?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Article:

http://www.trainweb.org/seaboard/EVANS/EvansAutoLoaderArticle(Small).jpg

Photos:

http://www.trainweb.org/seaboard/EVANS/EvansAutoLoader.jpg

http://www.trainweb.org/seaboard/EVANS/NYC-EARLY-AUTORACK-.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3059/2996060334_9135e84e30_o.jpg


Metal & Styrene

Bill Welch
 
Edited

Time to add some metal to my styrene Northern Pacific 50-footer. From my stash of Vintage Parts came the Overland steel etched running board. Although the Latitudinals look too close to the ends I am willing to live with it because these are very hefty etched parts. On the roof underside it can be seen that I am using the legs of the corner grabs to index the running board to the roof. To make sure the part will fit when final assembly comes the running board is marked underneath with a "B" as is the roof. I am considering securing the wire with "Two-Ton Epoxy" in the underside and leave it at that. This part is pretty rigid and I think I might not use any adhesive on the roof saddles.

The sill steps are Yarmouth etched parts secured with handmade rivets. These will be permanently fitted after the model is media blasted.

Bill Welch


Wabash War Emergency Boxcar

Bill Welch
 

Continuing on my War Emergency kick I managed to remove the diagonal braces on the end panels without any gouges and have re-scribed the boards and sanded the effected areas. The Wabash Decatur Shops built cars had bracing on these panels but at different angles. Then I removed the sill tabs and used .010 x .060 to fill in the area from the bolsters to the door tabs. I used .030 x .030 styrene behind these for added strength. Good start on the project where many small details will be added. Reference is RP CYC #19.

Bill Welch

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