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Re: Trucks

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

I think that’s “Hog Fuel” not “Hog Feed” … it’s ground up wood chips and small chuunks from a sawmill or planing operation. It’s an ancestor of modern wood-chip cars. The “hog” is a big grinder that takes sawmill slash and grinds it up into “hog fuel”. Today we’re more likely to call them “chippers”. The term “hog fuel” also applies to small wood blocks and sticks, Such combustable stuf was commonly used as fuel for donkey engines and such.

Dan Mitchell
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On Jul 25, 2018, at 3:00 PM, Ken Adams <smadanek44g@...> wrote:

Hog feed car


Re: Trucks

Ken Adams
 

Hog feed cars....a little late for my constraining period dates (1946-54) but what an interesting prototype....go hog wild on building a string....


Re: Trucks

Eric Hansmann
 

The I-, L-, and T-section trucks were banned on interchange cars as of January 1, 1957. The initial proposed deadline was January 1, 1949. The info is on the AAR Interchange Dates file in the file section and is attributed to Guy Wilber. I suspect SP wanted to use these in hog service for several years beyond the initial 1949 ban on the T-section trucks. Possibly they made the upgrades as the cars were rebuilt.


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN


On July 24, 2018 at 10:24 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



They had the T-section trucks even as late as 1946.

When the cars were rebuilt as hog fuel (wood shavings) cars they appear
to have received AAR U-section trucks with spring planks.



>At 04:53 PM 7/24/2018, Jared Harper wrote:
>>What trucks go under the F&C SP A-50-5 and SP A-50-6 auto cars. I looked in Hendrickson's SS box cars and auto cars but could not see the trucks clearly.
>
>What era?
>Southern Pacific Freight Cars Vol 3, Page 62 shows original circa-1923 Bettendorf T-section trucks...
>but these got replaced later in life.
>
>--------------------
>Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
>--------------------




Re: Trucks

Andy Carlson
 

The TMW #009, Barber lateral motion was purchased in large amounts for both PFE and SP upgrades.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA



From: Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Trucks


They had the T-section trucks even as late as 1946.

When the cars were rebuilt as hog fuel (wood shavings) cars they appear
to have received AAR U-section trucks with spring planks.



>At 04:53 PM 7/24/2018, Jared Harper wrote:
>>What trucks go under the F&C SP A-50-5 and SP A-50-6 auto cars.  I looked in Hendrickson's SS box cars and auto cars but could not see the trucks clearly.
>
>What era?
>Southern Pacific Freight Cars Vol 3, Page 62 shows original circa-1923 Bettendorf T-section trucks...
>but these got replaced later in life.
>
>--------------------
>Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
>-------------------- 






Re: URL for Southwest Scale

dh30973
 

To Dennis, yes I still run all of Gordon’s diesel parts. As Tim pointed out, the advent of highly phase specific, and detailed engines made in China has cut into the overall sales, but maintaining a web site and offering direct sales vs just distributor sales has kept sales reasonable.
I’m not sure if Dan Hall’s molds fit my mold base. I talked to him in St Louis, and he has sold  his press, but felt there are commercial shops around that could run his parts.
Currently my laser cut Freight Car kits are mostly 60’s built so just beyond the scope of this list (sorry Mike), but some use Dennis’s under frames.

Dave Hussey
Cannon and Company 


Re: Trucks

Tim O'Connor
 

They had the T-section trucks even as late as 1946.

When the cars were rebuilt as hog fuel (wood shavings) cars they appear
to have received AAR U-section trucks with spring planks.

At 04:53 PM 7/24/2018, Jared Harper wrote:
What trucks go under the F&C SP A-50-5 and SP A-50-6 auto cars. I looked in Hendrickson's SS box cars and auto cars but could not see the trucks clearly.
What era?
Southern Pacific Freight Cars Vol 3, Page 62 shows original circa-1923 Bettendorf T-section trucks...
but these got replaced later in life.

--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
--------------------


Re: URL for Southwest Scale

Tim O'Connor
 

I think he does. He added to the product line after acquiring it. Sales
have probably dried up thanks to the flood of super model imports from China.

Tim O'Connor

Tim,

Does David still run Gordon's old locomotive parts?

Dennis Storzek


Re: Trucks

Richard Brennan
 

At 04:53 PM 7/24/2018, Jared Harper wrote:
What trucks go under the F&C SP A-50-5 and SP A-50-6 auto cars. I looked in Hendrickson's SS box cars and auto cars but could not see the trucks clearly.
What era?
Southern Pacific Freight Cars Vol 3, Page 62 shows original circa-1923 Bettendorf T-section trucks...
but these got replaced later in life.


--------------------
Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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Trucks

Jared Harper
 

What trucks go under the F&C SP A-50-5 and SP A-50-6 auto cars.  I looked in Hendrickson's SS box cars and auto cars but could not see the trucks clearly.

Thanks.

Jared Harper


Re: URL for Southwest Scale

Bill Welch
 

Dave is Cannon and Company.

Bill Welch


Re: URL for Southwest Scale

 

Does Dave have a website or email address so that we could see his offerings?  


Re: URL for Southwest Scale

Bill Welch
 

Very much so. I sat with Dave while he explained molding to me and told me about his molding machines. Great guy, very creative. Depending on Dan hall's molds for his door, they might fit his machinery.

Another candidate would be Intermountain since their kits can make use of the doors.

Bill Welch


Re: URL for Southwest Scale

Dennis Storzek
 

Tim,

Does David still run Gordon's old locomotive parts? 

Dennis Storzek


Re: URL for Southwest Scale

Tim O'Connor
 

Dennis

Yes, David Hussey is cranking out lots of 1960's and later laser cut "kitbash"
models - he's improved and expanded the old Modeler's Choice idea. But only a very
small number of his own castings (box car ends in some cases) are involved. And
none of the current cars would use any of the Southwest doors, which are all for
transition (late STMFC) era box cars.

Tim O'Connor



Perhaps we could try to get Dan Hall (the pilot) in contact with Don Tichy - I think
his doors would be an excellent addition to the Tichy product line...

Or possibly Cannon & Company. Am I remembering correctly that they are now doing laser cut freightcar kits?

Dennis Storzek


Re: URL for Southwest Scale

Dennis Storzek
 

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 07:45 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Perhaps we could try to get Dan Hall (the pilot) in contact with Don Tichy - I think
his doors would be an excellent addition to the Tichy product line...
Or possibly Cannon & Company. Am I remembering correctly that they are now doing laser cut freightcar kits?

Dennis Storzek


FS: Steam Era Freight Cars

pennsylvania1954
 

FS: Steam Era Freight Cars. Time to make room for new cars. These are all very accurate models of their prototypes with added details where appropriate and correct trucks with metal wheels. Light to mild weathering. Reweigh station/date as shown except for the tank car. All have been very carefully used and maintained by a serious, experienced modeler.

 

D&H 18527 Kadee 40' PS-1 Boxcar NEW 10-50 Kadee ASF A3 trucks $20

 

ERIE 86012 Branchline 40' Poatwar ACF Boxcar NEW 11-52 ACF A3 trucks $20

 

ART 68310 Intermountain 40' “R40-10” type Refrigerator car single shield scheme STL 10-48 Kadee Bettendorf trucks $15

 

DRX (Deep Rock) 6969 Red Caboose 10000 gal welded Tank car Kato ASF A3 trucks $15

 

PRR 254266 Bowser H30 Covered Hopper (low running board) Bowser P57 7-53 70T ASF A3 trucks $20

 

Plus postage from 32506. Buy all 5, and I will send them postpaid. Please contact OFF LIST stevehprr AT cox DOT net.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL

 


Re: The Twelfth St. Louis Railroad Prototype Modeler's Meet

golden1014
 

That's not a bad idea.  I think it would be interesting if all the RPMs did it--that way we can get some good demographics across the continent.  We have an "RPM Hosts" list on Yahoo--maybe I can get that conversation started and we can come up with a good survey that can be used at all the events.

I would add that St. Louis and a few others, notably BAPM, have always been events for "modern" modelers--which naturally tend to be younger.  There are plenty of geezers there too.

Sorry to drag us off-topic.  Thanks for everyone's kind comments about the St. Louis event.

John Golden


Re: URL for Southwest Scale

Robert J Miller CFA
 

I’ll second your motion, Tim.


On Jul 23, 2018, at 10:45 PM, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:


Perhaps we could try to get Dan Hall (the pilot) in contact with Don Tichy - I think
his doors would be an excellent addition to the Tichy product line, and Don is still very
much in business and keeps expanding his line every year. What do you think?

Tim O'Connor



Southwest Scale is owned by a retired airline pilot. He has closed down his shop, and he sometimes ships items for online sales from leftover supply when he is back in the country (He does out of country pilot training for Boeing). I have not received any doors for over three years. He has stated that his tool making days are over, and I think (He has not said this) that the few dollars from selling plastic freight car doors isn't much of an incentive to fill orders.

Most of his remaining doors are Superior panel doors, as most of his Youngstown doors are sold out.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Seen, heard and purchased at St. Louis/Collinsville 2018 RPM

Robert Heninger
 

I'll just add that Ted had a sample body casting of the C&NW 40' PS-1 autocar body on display, which was very nice. Additionally, Ted had a flyer on his display announcing two new kits - a 50' MILW single sheathed auto boxcar, as well as an SP A-50-11 50' auto boxcar. He told me he hopes to have them available at Chicagoland.

Regards,
Bob Heninger
Minot, ND


Re: URL for Southwest Scale

Tim O'Connor
 


Perhaps we could try to get Dan Hall (the pilot) in contact with Don Tichy - I think
his doors would be an excellent addition to the Tichy product line, and Don is still very
much in business and keeps expanding his line every year. What do you think?

Tim O'Connor



Southwest Scale is owned by a retired airline pilot. He has closed down his shop, and he sometimes ships items for online sales from leftover supply when he is back in the country (He does out of country pilot training for Boeing). I have not received any doors for over three years. He has stated that his tool making days are over, and I think (He has not said this) that the few dollars from selling plastic freight car doors isn't much of an incentive to fill orders.

Most of his remaining doors are Superior panel doors, as most of his Youngstown doors are sold out.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

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