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Kadee's new 1947 body style PS-1

StephenK
 

I have been looking at the new body style  PS-1 that Kadee is advertising.   The photo is not great and I am not so good at freight car identification anyway, so can someone please explain the diffierences between the current models and the new, 1947 style?

Thanks,

Steve kay 


News about Inter Mountain Railway Sole Supplier Shut Down

gtws00
 

I received this letter from IM this morning about the loss of their supplier in China
George Toman


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Re: Boxcar: WAG 4000

Bob Chaparro
 

Thanks, folks. I'm impressed by the depth of your knowledge.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Santa Fe reefers for sale

Allan Smith
 

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Re: Boxcar: WAG 4000

Mikebrock
 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 6:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar: WAG 4000

 


Just a wild guess, but I'd say orange & white.






Partial black & white view of WAG 4000:
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-08-08/WA_G_C-2654_Galeton_6-16-57_Walt_Rudnick.jpg
What colors were these cars?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro


Re: Boxcar: WAG 4000

Mikebrock
 

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of BRIAN PAUL EHNI
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 6:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar: WAG 4000

Here’s a color photo off Ebay.


Thanks!



From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro <chiefbobbb@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:29 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar: WAG 4000

Partial black & white view of WAG 4000:
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-08-08/WA_G_C-2654_Galeton_6-16-57_Walt_Rudnick.jpg
What colors were these cars?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Boxcar: WAG 4000

Schleigh Mike
 

Hello Group & Bob!

I call these colors "cream yellow and tangerine orange" but that's just me.  GE specification referred to the yellow as Croydon yellow but I have never been able to corroborate that that was exactly what the Salzberg organization specified.  The orange color has been speculated to have been copied from that of Syracuse University.  However, if you could see the orange on the 4000 vs. that on the C2654 vs. that on the contemporary GE Centercabs, you would appreciate that the best advice for the color would be to 'copy' that you see on the particular car you might model.  The yellow is subtle having hints of brown (very slight) and it has often been mistaken in faded condition as white (old slides dupes?).  My recommendation for the yellow has been Model Master #4209 "Hull Cream" or #4221 "Panama Buff" but others can probably work.

WAG 4000 was B&O M-41 188339, relatively unmodified from the original BR&P 3500-3999 series built in 1914 by SSC.  Two other M-41s were on the WAG but they had been modernized with newer cast-steel trucks, attached ladders, re-done facias, and running boards.  Other than brief trips over to Coudersport on the C&PA, there is no evidence that they went off line after the start of the WAG in 1956.  These cars were exclusively in LCL merchandise service.

Four WAG cars so painted that did go off line were (4100-4103) former Rock Island B-2 (Fowler Clones) that presently might be kit-bashed but for which there is no exact model.

Regards from Grove City, Penna, not far from that SSC plant at Butler that built both caboose and box car.    -----   Mike Schleigh 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 6:30:04 PM EDT, Bob Chaparro <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:


Partial black & white view of WAG 4000:

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-08-08/WA_G_C-2654_Galeton_6-16-57_Walt_Rudnick.jpg

What colors were these cars?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Boxcar: WAG 4000

Tim O'Connor
 


Just a wild guess, but I'd say orange & white.





Partial black & white view of WAG 4000:
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-08-08/WA_G_C-2654_Galeton_6-16-57_Walt_Rudnick.jpg
What colors were these cars?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro


Re: Boxcar: WAG 4000

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Here’s a color photo off Ebay.


Thanks!



From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro <chiefbobbb@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:29 PM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar: WAG 4000

Partial black & white view of WAG 4000:
http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-08-08/WA_G_C-2654_Galeton_6-16-57_Walt_Rudnick.jpg
What colors were these cars?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Boxcar: WAG 4000

Bob Chaparro
 

Partial black & white view of WAG 4000:

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-06-08-08/WA_G_C-2654_Galeton_6-16-57_Walt_Rudnick.jpg

What colors were these cars?

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


ERIE shake-n-take

william darnaby
 

I have started fussing with the kit and wondering if I missed something about the ends on this car during the presentation (don't remember being asleep...not that I would, I guess).  What came in the box is the more recent end with the narrow ribs between the "rolling pin" ribs that do not look like the end on the prototype or model example in the handout.  Was a different supposed to be provided in the kit?

Thanks,
Bill Darnaby





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Re: Funaro & Camerlengo 1008 40' Boxcar NP 1918

dgconnery@...
 

RJ,

Your build is looking great. Share another photo when you have finished the lettering please. I appreciate your words of experience.

Dave Connery


Re: Funaro & Camerlengo 1008 40' Boxcar NP 1918

Eric Hansmann
 

Black Cat Publishing has some sweet decals for NP double-sheathed boxcars.

http://www.blackcatdecals.com/product-category/ho-decals/other-railways-us/page/3/

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of radiodial868
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2018 8:12 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Funaro & Camerlengo 1008 40' Boxcar NP 1918

 

By coincidence, its sister kit (#1006) just came out of the paint shop.  It's the 1906 8' high version (vs the 1908 8'-6"). Same kit otherwise.  Has to be one of the better F&Cs, the radial roof casting is massive and fit down into the sides & ends perfectly all the way around. The trusses went in rather quickly. A couple of tricks I learned doing these is to string the fishing line alongside the queen posts, and then when all done and tied & glued off (do not overtighten), lift them up onto the queen post tips and then spot glue.  Nice taught trusses.  I run the line through the turnbuckles (I can see Bill Welch cringe), but the reliability loss and assembly grief is not worth the effort of trying to make them see-through.  Another is to do the brake rigging after the trusses are in except for the train line and drill as many holes ahead of the truss install you can.

Paint is Tru-Color TCP-193 NP 1930-45 Freight Car Brown over Vallejo Poly Primer (do not use the Tru-Color Primer).  The decals are crap, and if you can afford it, do as Bill says and use Microscale or Speedwich or something. Or you can do as I do and use the F&C blobs and pick the best ones from all the ones they provide.  The set includes ones for #1006-1008, so be sure to use the right ones.  I'm already dumping an extra $16 in parts and materials into what is a $24 kit, so buying decals is something I try to avoid. 
As a side note, this would make a good kit for someone who was relatively new and wanted a truss rod kit that goes together well.  Just be sure to spend the money and get at least one Coffman right-angle clamp.
RJ Dial
Burlingame, CA


Re: RF&P/PE cabooses [was USRA Cabooses]

James McDonald
 

Hi Garth,

Thanks for the data on the N&A’s ex-RF&P cabooses and the photo of the longer red caboose. I understand that the Nelson & Albemarle also got a single 25’ RF&P caboose, which it numbered 102. It’s not clear to me when the N&A received this caboose. Do you know? It has the style of steps that the cabooses had before the 1917-18 rebuilding effort, but it has a retrofit steel underframe. It also has two windows per car side, as was typical of the unrebuilt 1904 cabooses (although this could well have been a N&A action when they cut the freight door in the side). Another strange point is that I gather N&A 102 was painted in a shade of blue quite close to the RF&P color, but the RF&P didn’t begin painting cabooses that color until after the N&A had ceased operating.

You’re pretty much on the money with the length of the longer RF&P cabooses. They had a kingpin center of 28’ 2” and a length over strikers of 41’ 8”. They were originally numbered 922, 923, 924, 927, 929, and 930. The longer RF&P cabooses were built during WWII to meet wartime traffic demands, which grew to the extent that by 1943 the RF&P was running a train every 14 minutes, 24 hours a day, and continued this pace every day for 2 straight years. That was about 45 freight trains each way each day, more than the railroad could handle with its 37 short cabooses. Austerity being a concern, the company’s shops made cabooses out of stock cars RFP 2267-2435 that had themselves been previously boxcars with the same numbers.

All the best,

James

=-=-=
James McDonald
Greenbelt, MD.


FS: HO Undec Atlas Boxcar and Rapido Meat Reefer

pennsylvania1954
 

 

Atlas Undec 1932 ARA Boxcar, Item #20 000 170, Style #1 which is “Long tab” body, Murphy Panel roof, 4/4 Dreadnaught ends. $16

 

Rapido Undec GARX 37 ft Wood Meat Reefer. $22

 

Both NEW in unopened boxes. Plus postage from 32506. Buy both, and I will send them postpaid. Please contact OFF LIST stevehprr AT cox DOT net.

Steve Hoxie
Pensacola FL


Re: Funaro & Camerlengo 1008 40' Boxcar NP 1918

lrkdbn
 

Sean send me your US mail address and I will send you a photocopy
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>


Re: Funaro & Camerlengo 1008 40' Boxcar NP 1918

radiodial868
 

By coincidence, its sister kit (#1006) just came out of the paint shop.  It's the 1906 8' high version (vs the 1908 8'-6"). Same kit otherwise.  Has to be one of the better F&Cs, the radial roof casting is massive and fit down into the sides & ends perfectly all the way around. The trusses went in rather quickly. A couple of tricks I learned doing these is to string the fishing line alongside the queen posts, and then when all done and tied & glued off (do not overtighten), lift them up onto the queen post tips and then spot glue.  Nice taught trusses.  I run the line through the turnbuckles (I can see Bill Welch cringe), but the reliability loss and assembly grief is not worth the effort of trying to make them see-through.  Another is to do the brake rigging after the trusses are in except for the train line and drill as many holes ahead of the truss install you can.

Paint is Tru-Color TCP-193 NP 1930-45 Freight Car Brown over Vallejo Poly Primer (do not use the Tru-Color Primer).  The decals are crap, and if you can afford it, do as Bill says and use Microscale or Speedwich or something. Or you can do as I do and use the F&C blobs and pick the best ones from all the ones they provide.  The set includes ones for #1006-1008, so be sure to use the right ones.  I'm already dumping an extra $16 in parts and materials into what is a $24 kit, so buying decals is something I try to avoid. 
As a side note, this would make a good kit for someone who was relatively new and wanted a truss rod kit that goes together well.  Just be sure to spend the money and get at least one Coffman right-angle clamp.
RJ Dial
Burlingame, CA


Re: USRA Cabooses

Donald B. Valentine
 

John LaRue wrote:

 
Re: USRA Cabooses 
From: mofwcaboose
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 21:26:46 PDT 
The B&M cabooses were second hand from the Lehigh & New England. B&M C-90 - C-92 were from the L&NE series 574 - 578, built by Magor in 1931. B&M cabooses C-93 - C-95 were former L&NE 571 - 573, built by PSC in 1929..


This is all swell sand good, John, but as our late friend Harry A. Frye would also tell you were he still with us the L&HR cabeese that the B&M received boar little or no resemblance to the USRA cabeese.

Cordially, Don Valetine

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Re: Funaro & Camerlengo 1008 40' Boxcar NP 1918

Sean Murphy
 

Bill,

I believe that is a different car.

Larry,

If you have an article or photos on them, I would be interested. I have the 1922 CBD.

Everyone,

The history on this car I believe is that they are from the 17000 series which were renumbered to the 31000 series during the 1930's. They were then cut up, sold, or moved to company / MOW service by the 1951. Since I model Sept.1950 on the GN, only 2-3 cars from NP records were still in interchange at this point. I am working on the kit currently and it is my first F&C.

I'm starting my dive into the resin world and it brings me back to the fun I had assembling blue box kits 20 years ago. I'm an architect, but now enjoy locomotive / rolling stock building and research more than almost any other aspect of the hobby. Go figure...


More Pacific Electric USRA Cabooses

Andy Carlson
 



Number 1981 with an odd (for a caboose) reweigh date of 1953.

-Andy Carlson