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Re: Kadee's new 1947 body style PS-1

MDelvec952
 



Will fill some needs, nice. 

Bill Keene, how about starting to kitbash a 10' IH version to move that up on the Kadee list?  

Many of the features are common to this one.  New Haven and Lackawanna had close to the entire production of them. (Asked and answered...)

                          ....Mike Del Vecchio




-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Keene via Groups.Io <bill41@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Aug 7, 2018 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Kadee's new 1947 body style PS-1

Yup! Another perfect example of start a kit bash project on your work bench and about the time you have completed the “bash” someone will produce a BX-52 in a better model than my modest modeling skills will accomplish. 

OK. Where is my royalty check?

Cheers & Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Aug 7, 2018, at 12:09 PM, StephenK <thekays100@...> wrote:

I got an email from Kadee on this question with a flyer attached.   It shows all the changes for what they call the "pre-1950" model.

Check it out:

https://kadee.com/html/pre50_PS-1.pdf

S Kay


Re: Kadee's new 1947 body style PS-1

Tim O'Connor
 


Thanks for sharing that. But why call the "retainer" valve an "AB" valve? I've
never seen that term applied to that valve before. After all, retainers were also
used for KC and KD brakes and have been used since AB gear itself became obsolete.

No mention is made of the new brake wheels and housings and new running boards,
which I'm sure has lots of folks even more excited than the box cars! :-)

Tim



I got an email from Kadee on this question with a flyer attached.   It shows all the changes for what they call the "pre-1950" model.

Check it out:

https://kadee.com/html/pre50_PS-1.pdf

S Kay


Re: Kadee's new 1947 body style PS-1

Bill Keene
 

Yup! Another perfect example of start a kit bash project on your work bench and about the time you have completed the “bash” someone will produce a BX-52 in a better model than my modest modeling skills will accomplish. 

OK. Where is my royalty check?

Cheers & Happy Modeling,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA


On Aug 7, 2018, at 12:09 PM, StephenK <thekays100@...> wrote:

I got an email from Kadee on this question with a flyer attached.   It shows all the changes for what they call the "pre-1950" model.

Check it out:

https://kadee.com/html/pre50_PS-1.pdf

S Kay


Re: Kadee's new 1947 body style PS-1

StephenK
 

I got an email from Kadee on this question with a flyer attached.   It shows all the changes for what they call the "pre-1950" model.

Check it out:

https://kadee.com/html/pre50_PS-1.pdf

S Kay


Re: Kadee SR boxcar future release

Tim O'Connor
 


  Yes.


Is the upcoming (February 2019) release of the SR 40' boxcar a new version?  I'm assuming it's using the new body style of the soon to be released ATSF 1947 style???
https://kadee.com/ca/futurecars.htm
Curt Fortenberry


Re: DECAL SAVER

Bill Welch
 

Some of the Speedwitch decals are on very thin film and the Microscale LDF to keep them in onepiece as well as with older Microscale decals.

Bill Welch


Re: DECAL SAVER

Tim O'Connor
 


It's also great for DRY TRANSFERS. The tiny lettering in dry transfers can
be very hard to use, so I rub them onto decal paper (Microscale trim film)
and then brush over them with the Liquid Decal Film. They can now be applied
just like other water slide decals.

Tim O'Connor

    >  It's called Liquid Decal Film

 What Tony said.  It's awful looking when applied, but dries very thin and works extremely well.  Cleans up with isopropyl alcohol.  Dan Kohlberg recommends using the stuff on his Alps-printed decals as they're on very thin film.  I used it on some custom decals from the early 1980s and it made the decals quite usable.

 Craig Zeni


Re: DECAL SAVER

Chuck Cover
 

In addition to using Microscale Liquid Decal Film on older decals, I use it
on all F&C decals, which makes them much easier to apply.

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Re: ratios

Bruce Smith
 

Haha… my mail handler thought this was junk mail… maybe a message in that, eh Armand?

Maybe you’re forgetting because we haven’t had a discussion of this in the past few weeks to months, but it has come up here with frequency and our archives are full of information.

And you know, just a few days ago, I was looking into a much simpler stat… home road cars on home rails, since the accepted standard for the PRR was around 50%.  However the data for Eastern Region in 1944, iirc, was in the mid 30% range and most importantly, the data for hopper cars was very similar to box cars and both were in the 30% range.  That’s a huge difference from my expectations which were that hoppers would be about 75% home road. Now, that’s not strictly PRR, because it is the total for the entire region, but the PRR, as one of the biggest members of that region, should look pretty similar to the region numbers. I’m going to need a LOT more foreign hoppers!

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Aug 7, 2018, at 9:40 AM, Armand Premo <arm.p.prem@...> wrote:

I am perhaps overly obsessed with freight car ratios by era ,by type and,by road.We pride ourselves with accurately detailed models,yet ignore the fact that the modeled car may not have existed in the period we are modeling Such things as number of wooden cars  to steel  cars in a consist for a given era.This may be trivial to many modelers,but if we profess.to be prototypical, I suggest that more consideration be given to ratios.Armand Premo


Kadee SR boxcar future release

Curt Fortenberry
 


Is the upcoming (February 2019) release of the SR 40' boxcar a new version?  I'm assuming it's using the new body style of the soon to be released ATSF 1947 style???

https://kadee.com/ca/futurecars.htm

 

Curt Fortenberry


ratios

Armand Premo
 

I am perhaps overly obsessed with freight car ratios by era ,by type and,by road.We pride ourselves with accurately detailed models,yet ignore the fact that the modeled car may not have existed in the period we are modeling Such things as number of wooden cars  to steel  cars in a consist for a given era.This may be trivial to many modelers,but if we profess.to be prototypical, I suggest that more consideration be given to ratios.Armand Premo


Re: DECAL SAVER

Craig Zeni
 

On Aug 7, 2018, at 12:06 AM, main@RealSTMFC.groups.io wrote:


7b. Re: DECAL SAVER
From: Tony Thompson <tony@signaturepress.com>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2018 00:05:48 EDT

BILL PARDIE wrote:

There is a Microscale product that is brushed on to older decals to hopefully prevent them from dissintergrating
when applied. Anyone recall what prduct this is?
It's called Liquid Decal Film and it totally works. Looks pretty goopy when you apply it, but it dries to a thin film. I use it all the time on older decals.
What Tony said. It's awful looking when applied, but dries very thin and works extremely well. Cleans up with isopropyl alcohol. Dan Kohlberg recommends using the stuff on his Alps-printed decals as they're on very thin film. I used it on some custom decals from the early 1980s and it made the decals quite usable.

Craig Zeni
Cary NC


Re: DECAL SAVER

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

No, but Testors has a similar product, “Decal Bonder” #9200, in a small spray can. I’ve used it successfully. Most hobby shops don’t carry it, but can order it.

Dan MItchell
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On Aug 7, 2018, at 12:02 AM, WILLIAM PARDIE <PARDIEW001@...> wrote:


There is a Microscale product that is brushed on to older decals to hopefully prevent them from dissintergrating
when applied.  Anyone recall what prduct this is?

Bill Pardie

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


Re: DECAL SAVER

steve_wintner
 

I managed to rescue some old decals by a simple coat of dullcote once or twice. YMMV. This product is probably a better choice, I guess, being formulated for the purpose.


Re: DECAL SAVER

Tony Thompson
 

BILL PARDIE wrote:

There is a Microscale product that is brushed on to older decals to hopefully prevent them from dissintergrating
when applied.  Anyone recall what prduct this is?

  It's called Liquid Decal Film and it totally works. Looks pretty goopy when you apply it, but it dries to a thin film. I use it all the time on older decals.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






DECAL SAVER

WILLIAM PARDIE
 


There is a Microscale product that is brushed on to older decals to hopefully prevent them from dissintergrating
when applied.  Anyone recall what prduct this is?

Bill Pardie

Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


Re: Masking over Archer rivets

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 8/6/2018 12:17 PM, StephenK wrote:
masking small areas (headlight lenses, for example) that are difficult to mask.   I use dishwashing liquid

    There is a product called "removable water-based resist" (by Jacquard).  I bought a bottle but haven't used it yet.  Do you have any experience with it?

-- 
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Re: Sourceme of this vendoe

naptownprr
 

I would also like the name of this vendor.  Thanks.


Jim Hunter


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Jared Harper <harperandbrown@...>
Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 4:22 PM
To: Proto-Layouts@groups.io; REALSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Source
 
At Collinsville I purchased a couple of large crates for a load in an open top car.  The two are  fine for a 50' flat car or gondola.  However, I would like to get a couple of more so I can use three for a load in  a mill gondola.  Unfortunately I do not remember the name of the vendor but he had a variety of load items.  Can anyone direct me to this vendor?

Thanks.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA


Re: Masking over Archer rivets

James E Kubanick
 

My experience is identical to that which Al Brown describes. I use Scalcoat and Tamiya tape, also.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV


On Monday, August 6, 2018 3:27 PM, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:


I have another tale about Archer rivets.  I added them to a boxcar.  First I sprayed the car with clear gloss.  Applied the rivets and it was a problem because the gloss hadn't dried completely.  But I was in a hurry and kept going.  After a week I started to proceed with more detailing of the car and noticed that the gloss had still not dried and I was leaving my fingerprints all over the sides.  WOWZER not good.  So I decided to strip it with Scale Coat stripper.  I have plenty of Archer rivets so I figured they would go with the stripper. I don't immerse, I lay the car on news print and paint the stripper to one side.  Let it sit then use a tooth brush and wash the paint off at the deep sink.   I use less stripper that way and it works just as well.  On some applications I have to do it 2 or 3 times a side.  
After I got the clear gloss off, the Archer Rivets were still there....who knew.
Not saying this would work every time but it did this time.
Fenton Wells

On Mon, Aug 6, 2018 at 3:17 PM, StephenK <thekays100@...> wrote:
I have used another method for masking small areas (headlight lenses, for example) that are difficult to mask.   I use dishwashing liquid (the kind for the sink, not the machine).   This assumes a non-wood model.   Paint a layer of liquid over the area and let dry.  I usually put 2-3 coats on.   Paint, then wash off after the paint dries.   Note that I have never used this on Archer Rivets.   (I have never used Archer rivets....).  It's worth a try on a sample piece of plastic.

Steve Kay



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Source

Jared Harper
 

At Collinsville I purchased a couple of large crates for a load in an open top car.  The two are  fine for a 50' flat car or gondola.  However, I would like to get a couple of more so I can use three for a load in  a mill gondola.  Unfortunately I do not remember the name of the vendor but he had a variety of load items.  Can anyone direct me to this vendor?

Thanks.

Jared Harper
Athens, GA

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