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Re: Interesting find on Con Cor site

Paul LaCiura <paul@...>
 

Ray,

I think that the sale that you refer to was last year and was a rapid
sell-out.

Paul
San Jose

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Breyer [mailto:rbreyer@...]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:38 PM
To: STMFC@...
Subject: [STMFC] Interesting find on Con Cor site


Group,

I was browsing around on the Con Cor site (don't ask), and ran across
something interesting. They're having a mega sale to clear out inventory,
and for some reason they have Westerfield kits for sale - at 60% off!
They're list is here:

http://www.con-cor.com/yardsale/ydsale2.txt

Ya gotta scroll down past the Stewart stuff, but that small inconvienence is
worth it, considering how cheap these things are!

They've got a lot of other stuff on sale, all at the 60% off price, so you
might want to browse around a bit.

Have fun!

Ray Breyer


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Mather Refrg. cars

raildata@...
 

I have a friend here who badly wants to see any photos of Mather
refrigerators lettered for URTX. Think these are in the 4xxx and 5xxx series.
Apparently some of these were published in the model rr press. Just knowing
the mag and issue would be a big help.

Any info as to where he could buy prints or find a scan would be appreciated.

Chuck Yungkurth
Boulder CO

Re: [RM-forum] You think kits are dead?

Denis F. Blake <dblake3@...>
 

This guy has tons of cars up for auction now.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=used.ho.t
rains&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25

Check them out.

Denis F. Blake
NS Conductor
Columbus, Ohio
TTHOTS

Visit my photosite at

http://hyperphoto.photoloft.com/view/allalbums.asp?s=cano&u=1665499

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim O'Connor" <timoconnor@...>
To: <stmfc@...>; <railroadmodeler@...>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: [RM-forum] You think kits are dead?



Just look at the prices these kits are fetching on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114617580
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114614683
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114606388
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114609615
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114609635
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114615702

I'm sure there are real hobby shops out there, looking at these same
kits collecting dust on their shelves, wondering What the Heck?

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
Sterling, Massachusetts


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You think kits are dead?

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Re: RP CYC Vol. 8 Special Offer

atsfjim@...
 

Hi Ed, I just returned from a trip and read this offer. I wanted to take
advantage of it but I am just over the deadline. Anyway you could extend it
and I will mail a money order tomorrow, 2/18, for Vol. 8. Please let me
know. Thanks. Jim Barnes

B&M/GEX well hole flat car diagrams

tcschc <tculotta@speedwitch.com> <tculotta@...>
 

I have been meaning to do it ever since the thread started, but have been ill. However, I finally scanned the car diagram sheets for the B&M and GEX well hole flat cars. They are in the files section. The two files are: bm5000.jpg and gex2000.jpg.

Regards,
Ted Culotta

News from Steve Funaro on Wabash Automobile Box and Stock Cars

skunkskunk2001 <fwj@mail.fwi.com> <fwj@...>
 

I spoke with Steve Funaro recently at a the Saline, Michigan train
show. He said they will have several versions of the Single
Sheath/"Z" brace Wabash Automobile box cars (various end and door
versions) including the resheathed sheet metal version available this
year. And, get this, he is also doing the stock car that was made
from these cars!

He told me that he plans to have the kits ready for sale at the time
of the Toronto NMRA Convention. I also bought a couple of the 13000
series Wabash gondola kits "in a bag" and they look nice.


Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana

Re: AAR Box Car Underframe

Jeff English
 

Guy,
Thanks very much for straightening me out. OK, Earl, I'll be
moving ahead with fabricating bolsters now.

Jeff English
Troy, New York

--- In STMFC@..., Guycwilber@a... wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/03 2:21:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
englij@r...
writes:

<< "AAR Standard double
steel-sheathed box car", with reference to Supplement to the
Manual Plate 1512. >>

Jeff,

I did some further checking...1512 is indeed the bolster detail
drawing
(plate) for the 1937 car, and subsequent designs. The 1940 CBC
has the
correct plate number listed, however it is accompanies the wrong
drawing.

Further, the 1951 change to the 24" width was for the top plate
only, the
bottom plate remained 21" in width.

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Sparks, Nevada

Re: Dreadnaught End Info Request

Gene Green <willibecher@juno.com> <willibecher@...>
 

That is Gene Green at willibecher @ juno dot com.

Gene Green

Re: Dreadnaught End Info Request

Gene Green <willibecher@juno.com> <willibecher@...>
 

Please contact me off list at willibecher@.... Perhaps I can
help.
Gene Green
--- In STMFC@..., "largo621 <Callie17@a...>"
<Callie17@a...> wrote:
The recent thread regarding the Intermountain boxcar kits and the
source of the tooling for the dreadnaught ends has rekindled an old
interest of mine: building a large scale (3/4") Pennsy X-29.

I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good source for
reasonably
detailed erection drawings of the various flavors of dreadnaught
ends.

Callie

Re: Pennsy X-37B Boxcars 1941 built with #64400-65399

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

I am looking at a photo of X37 #65922.

The closest match in HO is Kadee's Universal brake wheel. I think
the prototype had an earlier style Universal model with 4 or 5 holes
in the center disk. I suppose you could just drill holes in Kadee's
version (which has a solid center disk) to simulate it.


Can anyone tell me which brake wheel/s came on this series cars. A specific
wheel type with a specfic car number from a photo will work.
Paul Lyons
Oceanside, CA

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: UP 1925 gondola

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Class G-50-9, original numbers 99500-99999, 500 cars built 1925 by the
Pressed Steel Car Co. Corrugated steel drop ends, Bettendorf T-section
trucks. They were rebuilt at Denver in the mid-1950s and renumbered into
the 28000 and 29000 series. At that time, they got new AAR trucks, new
draft gear, and many got fixed plate steel ends. 20" UNION PACIFIC
stenciling began to appear in 1956.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520

There's a photo of UP #29032 in the Morning Sun UP Color Guide
Volume 1 on page 81.


Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: UP 1925 gondola

Richard Hendrickson
 

At OERM in Perris CA there's a UP 48-foot, 9-panel gondola. It's in 1960s
paint but it has built date of 1925. G-50-7, I believe? (I didn't record
the number.)
Were there a lot of these? Were they modified through the years? Why
doesn't Westerfield offer it? <g>
Class G-50-9, original numbers 99500-99999, 500 cars built 1925 by the
Pressed Steel Car Co. Corrugated steel drop ends, Bettendorf T-section
trucks. They were rebuilt at Denver in the mid-1950s and renumbered into
the 28000 and 29000 series. At that time, they got new AAR trucks, new
draft gear, and many got fixed plate steel ends. 20" UNION PACIFIC
stenciling began to appear in 1956.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520

Re: AAR Box Car Underframe

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 2/15/03 2:21:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, englij@...
writes:

<< "AAR Standard double
steel-sheathed box car", with reference to Supplement to the
Manual Plate 1512. >>

Jeff,

I did some further checking...1512 is indeed the bolster detail drawing
(plate) for the 1937 car, and subsequent designs. The 1940 CBC has the
correct plate number listed, however it is accompanies the wrong drawing.

Further, the 1951 change to the 24" width was for the top plate only, the
bottom plate remained 21" in width.

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Sparks, Nevada

K-2 Brake arrangement

Scott A. Reed <lildiggr@...>
 

I am looking for some guidance in super detailing the brake rigging for one of Westerfield's HP hopper cars. I have Dow's N&W Coal Car book and need some thing clarified as to the design of the brake rigging.
Thanks,
Scott A. Reed

Re: AAR Box Car Underframe

Guy Wilber
 

In a message dated 2/15/03 2:21:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, englij@...
writes:

<< This bolster detail drawing shows no taper at all in the bolster top
plate, it being a perfect rectangle all the way across the car. The
width is called out at 18". >>

Jeff,

The bolster detail drawing is from the original 1932 ARA design, note the
(overall) width of the bolster is 9' 4 3/4". This drawing is listed (in
error) as part of the 1500 series drawings which was the 1937 car. All the
1932 drawings were in the 500 series.

Both the top and bottom bolster plates were increased from 18" to 21" in
March of 1934. The drawing covering the dimensional change also included the
taper on the top plate. The 21" dimension and the taper were incorporated
into 1937 design. The 21" width remained the AAR "standard" until March 1951
when it was again increased to 24".

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Sparks, Nevada

Re: Admin...Names please.

Schuyler G Larrabee <SGL2@...>
 

Ah, Roger, legally, you're right (as you would know) but James E Dalberg
isn't too terribly hard to figure out.

As someone else said, "SuperSteamer 1234" is NOT informative. That I have a
problem with. And while I sign things reflexively as "SGL," that's because
I travel under my real name as it appears on most email programs, and
"Schuyler G Larrabee" is a long thing to type out.

Uh,
S-c-h-u-y-l-e-r G L-a-r-r-a-b-e-e

SGL

Sorry, couldn't help it!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Miener" <Roger.Miener@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Admin...Names please.


Jim Dalberg wrote:
I have always signed my note just "Jim" because my email address is
my name
-jedalberg, fairly obviuos and not one of those "super steamer1234"
addresses
which are not identifiable.
Right! Excuse me, but, Jim and Jed have a problem --- Don't they!
Yes they do.

"Jim is my name" ... I don't think so! "jedalberg" ain't Jim. It
don't even point in the right direction.

Hey Jim, try again. In my book, "Je" ain't "Ji". Where is the "m"?
Think about it.

Roger Miener
at Tacoma WA

----- Original Message -----
From: <thompson@...>
To: <STMFC@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] Admin...Names please.


Jim Dalberg wrote:
I have always signed my note just "Jim" because my email address is
my name
-jedalberg, fairly obviuos and not one of those "super steamer1234"
addresses
which are not identifiable. However, in future will sign full name.
Yep, it's always seemed obvious to me: Jed Alberg. I knew who it
was all
along.

Tony Thompson

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Wabash 18000-18024 50ft Auto box

Rob Adams
 

I'm trying to finish up some freight car projects and have two Wabash
auto box cars underway starting from the Proto 2000 50ft automobile
box. One is a 1942 built, 19000-19124 series car using the Superior
doors and parts from Martin Lofton's mini-kit. The Wabash also had a
small group of very similar cars built in 1942 with end doors. This
group was numbered 18000-18024. Can any of you point me toward a photo
of these, or at least confirm that this group had Youngstown doors?
Thanks.

Best regards, Rob Adams

Re: Pennsy X-37B Boxcars 1941 built with #64400-65399

Paul Lyons
 

Thanks for thr reply Tim, but #65922 is not one of the 41 built cars. Best
way to spot the 1941 cars is they are the only ones with Superior doors.
Paul Lyons
Oceanside, CA

Pennsy X-37B Boxcars 1941 built with #64400-65399

Paul Lyons
 

Can anyone tell me which brake wheel/s came on this series cars. A specific
wheel type with a specfic car number from a photo will work.
Paul Lyons
Oceanside, CA