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Re: Tank cars with large side vents

Eric Hansmann
 

Owl Mountain Models produces HO scale brass castings for these vents. Scroll down on their Detail Parts page to see them

http://www.owlmtmodels.com/detail_parts/detail_parts.html


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN



On August 12, 2018 at 7:19 PM Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote:

Mike,

I've never heard of a dome with a side vent (No doubt here comes the lesson!). Do you mean an "L" or "Y" shaped vent on the dome facing the car end? If so, yes, they were common on cars built up into the early 1920s or so. See my Album #1, WP Tank Cars in our photo section to see what I mean.

If this is what you mean, F&C makes AC&F 8K tanks with these vents in both high and low-walkway models. Many of these tanks were still in use until after WWII, and in MW service into the 1980s.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

On 8/12/18 6:00 PM, Mike Calo wrote:
Hello group -

Does anyone know of a source for an HO scale model of a tank car with a large side vent on the dome?

Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.

Mike Calo
Odenton MD (the town a railroad built)


Re: Rock Island Bulk Flour Box Cars 47000 series

Steve and Barb Hile
 

RI 47000-47020 were converted for bulk flour service by the railroad in 1956 by locating two round hatches on raised squares one on either side of the running board and either side of the car center line.  A shield shaped hatch was added in the lower left corner of either side and the car was completely lined with plywood (sides, ends and ceiling) attached to the side posts, etc, in lieu of the old wood lining.  This was then coated with a polyester sealer applied over fiber glass netting.  The original cars came from the 145000-145999 series, 10'6" inside height boxcars built by Pressed Steel Car company in 1940.
 
I attach Rock Island photos from the rebuilding project before repainting.
 
Twenty more cars were done in 1957 and 1957 extending the series to 47040.  These cars used 1/4 inch thick MET-L WOOD faced with 0.020 aluminum applied over the original lining.
 
Ross Dando made a run of resin castings some years ago to provide these roof hatches and unloading doors.  You can contact him to get a set at twinstarcars at yahoo dot com.  Please don't reply to the listing.  He won't see it.
 
Steve Hile



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of mopacfirst
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2018 9:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rock Island Bulk Flour Box Cars 47000 series

See Hile 'Rock Island Color Guide', page 36.  They were built, and evidently remained in service for some time, although they were a dead end design like other boxcars converted to bulk loading only.  All 21 are still listed in my 65 ORER, so this is a car I could use.

The caption suggests they were made obsolete by covered hopper cars, but I'd think it would have been primarily Airslide cars that would have displaced these.  If you model the right period of time, you might see these cars on a flour mill loading (shipping) siding along with a few Airslides and boxcars for bagged flour.

Only hard part about the conversion might be the stenciling.

Ron Merrick


Re: Tank cars with large side vents

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Mike,

I've never heard of a dome with a side vent (No doubt here comes the lesson!). Do you mean an "L" or "Y" shaped vent on the dome facing the car end? If so, yes, they were common on cars built up into the early 1920s or so. See my Album #1, WP Tank Cars in our photo section to see what I mean.

If this is what you mean, F&C makes AC&F 8K tanks with these vents in both high and low-walkway models. Many of these tanks were still in use until after WWII, and in MW service into the 1980s.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

On 8/12/18 6:00 PM, Mike Calo wrote:
Hello group -

Does anyone know of a source for an HO scale model of a tank car with a large side vent on the dome?

Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.

Mike Calo
Odenton MD (the town a railroad built)


Tank cars with large side vents

Mike Calo <michaelcalo3403@...>
 

Hello group -

Does anyone know of a source for an HO scale model of a tank car with a large side vent on the dome?

Thanks in advance for your help and guidance.

Mike Calo
Odenton MD (the town a railroad built)


Re: M&StL 24562 4C-XM-1 Box Car

James E Kubanick
 

Always some interesting and different seems to show up on SS cars. Your build certainly shows well against the photos you posted, Lester. Thank you for posting those and the support information. Well done!

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV


On Friday, August 10, 2018 5:18 PM, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:


I love Single Sheathed boxcars and the  Granger RR"s examples like this are especially appealing. Well done commentary on your appealing build Lester.

Bill Welch



Re: Four double sheathed box cars

Benjamin Hom
 


All can be modeled in HO scale - Westerfield resin kit for the B&O Class M-15A automobile boxcar, Westerfield and Funaro resin kits or Accurail injection molded kit and Ertl models for the two USRA boxcars, and modified Accurail 36 ft DS boxcar for the DL&W 36 ft boxcar.


Ben Hom 



Four double sheathed box cars

Schuyler Larrabee
 


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Paul Catapano
 

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RP CYC Collection for sale

Paul Catapano
 

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Vol's 1 through 24
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Re: Rock Island Bulk Flour Box Cars 47000 series

mopacfirst
 

See Hile 'Rock Island Color Guide', page 36.  They were built, and evidently remained in service for some time, although they were a dead end design like other boxcars converted to bulk loading only.  All 21 are still listed in my 65 ORER, so this is a car I could use.

The caption suggests they were made obsolete by covered hopper cars, but I'd think it would have been primarily Airslide cars that would have displaced these.  If you model the right period of time, you might see these cars on a flour mill loading (shipping) siding along with a few Airslides and boxcars for bagged flour.

Only hard part about the conversion might be the stenciling.

Ron Merrick


Re: ERA?

O Fenton Wells
 

Schuyler these cares are very well done by Westerfield in many versions.  Check out the Westerfield web site
Fenton

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:47 PM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
Schuyler Larrabee asked:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/28997064817/in/photostream/         
 
How long would this car have retained this paint scheme?"

Lines West (of which Vandalia Line was one of the subsidiaries) was reintegrated with PRR in March 1920.  Additionally, the Class R7 reefers would go to Fruit Growers Express upon start-up in March 1920.


Ben Hom 




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Re: Securing Steam Era Excavator to Flat Car

Kemal Mumcu
 

Hi friends,

I got a couple diagrams to assist me. Thanks for the clarification and the verbal advice too.

Colin Meikle


Thanks!

Jared Harper
 

Today I finally made contact with Dennis Norris.  Thanks to everyone who helped.

Jared Harper


Re: ERA?

Benjamin Hom
 

Schuyler Larrabee asked:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/28997064817/in/photostream/         
 
How long would this car have retained this paint scheme?"

Lines West (of which Vandalia Line was one of the subsidiaries) was reintegrated with PRR in March 1920.  Additionally, the Class R7 reefers would go to Fruit Growers Express upon start-up in March 1920.


Ben Hom 


ERA?

Schuyler Larrabee
 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/28997064817/in/photostream/        

 

How long would this car have retained this paint scheme?

 

Obviously PRR heritage (note the sign in the foreground, if the car itself didn’t give you that idea . . .)

 

Schuyler


Re: Securing Steam Era Excavator to Flat Car

Bruce Smith
 

Colin,


You don't specify era and that can be important. Typically, the guidelines seem to have gotten a bit easier over the years.  Working from the 1934 version of the ARA Rules Governing the Loading of Open Top Cars" The Insley Excavator qulifies as a "machine on which body portion rotates". The following generalities seem to be generally true.


The boom should be stored in the lowest possible position. In the case of the Insley, this would either be fully extended or fully folded (I'd sugges that latter).


Tracked vehicles are secured by means of angled chocks at each end of each tread to prevent forward and back movement and guide boards (2x6) nailed to the deck alongside the tracks, either outside or inside the tracks, to prevent lateral motion.


The rotating body is supported by a wood frame at the back end


The rear of the body and the boom are secured to the side of the car with wire or chains to prevent rotation


Any portion of the boom assembly that might contact the deck are shimmed up with wood and may also have bracing to prevent lateral movement. 


Parts of booms on different sides of joints that come into close proximity may have wood blocks inserted to prevent contact between sections.


Regards,

Bruce

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL


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Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2018 2:11 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Securing Steam Era Excavator to Flat Car
 
Hi, I'm working on a Red Caboose flat with a Woodland Scenics Insley Excavator for a load. I'm looking for guidance on how to secure the thing down to the flat car. Does anyone have a diagram perhaps of the best way to position the excavator? I've looked at a lot of pictures online and there doesn't seem to be a consensus on how to position the arm; tucked under the machine or stretched out straight?

Colin Meikle


Re: SEEKING HELP ON WABASH OB AUTO CARS

lrkdbn
 

The Illinois Ry. Museum Pullman Library has the Standard Steel Car Co. drawings.for these Wabash auto cars as built.
They will sell you copies for a reasonable price. The drawings I got from them are numbered- general arrangement #50613,
K type brake arrangement # 50815 and underframe arrangement #50814.The  numbers are not real legible so I'd ask for assistance, not just say "send me drawing # so-and-so". I have always found them extremely helpful and easy to deal with. As I recall from my F&C model build of this car, using these drawings, the underframe was very similar to the USRA DS box underframe. I believe there are also several of these cars in museums.that you could search for.
Hope this helps,
Larry King <lrkdbn@...>


New Decal Available

hubert mask
 

Mask Island Decals has released a new Steam Era decal.


LOFX reporting marks for the Libbey Owens Ford Glass Company hoppers.  Decal set will allow you to complete two different style schemes. 


Please visit my web site maskislanddecals.com   


Decal sets are listed in alphabetical order.


Thank you


Mask Island Decals Inc.


Photo Courtesy of Ed Hawkins


Rock Island Bulk Flour Box Cars 47000 series

rwitt_2000
 


Re: Securing Steam Era Excavator to Flat Car

Kemal Mumcu
 

Thanks guys, I model the late '40s.

Colin Meikle

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