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My Favored Cyanoacrylate: Duro

Bill Welch
 


While at Lowe's recently to pickup some hooks to improve the way my airbrush air hoses hang because of my new Air Compressor arrangement, I wondered over to the adhesives and purchased this blister pack of my favorite Cyanoacrylate. "Duro" is Henkel product, the same company that markets Loctite. I like buying this at Lowe's because the turnover there is pretty regular meaning it is fresh. They sell it for $1.95 resulting a price of less the 50 cents per tube. I opened my current tube on April 3, 2018 and it replaced an empty tube opened December 26, 2017. Price is not particularly important to me. What I like about this product is that it stays fresh in the tube. My current tube is almost empty I am sure based on when I opened it and there is no perceptible thickening. Of primary import to me with this product however is that it is easy to keep the nozzle clean. Whatever material Henkel is using sheds CA build-up easily. I keeps a section of wire handy to poke the nozzle opening. I highly recommend Duro in the .07 oz. tube.

Bill Welch


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] ACL ventilated box car in lumber service

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

My pleasure, John! I love finding them, too.

Elden Gatwood

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Elden,


Yet another example of wonderful details in the background of the main subject. As a western modeler, I have no need for the PRR engine, but the ACL VM could have easily brought a load of hardwood lumber to San Francisco.


Thanks for posting.

John Barry

ATSF North Bay Lines
Golden Gates & Fast Freights
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696

PO Box 44736
Washington, DC 20026-4736


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From: "Gatwood, Elden J SAD" <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil>
To: "realstmfc@groups.io" <realstmfc@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:02 AM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ACL ventilated box car in lumber service


Have you see this one?


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Elden Gatwood


Re: ACL ventilated box car in lumber service

John Barry
 

Elden,

Yet another example of wonderful details in the background of the main subject.  As a western modeler, I have no need for the PRR engine, but the ACL VM could have easily brought a load of hardwood lumber to San Francisco.

Thanks for posting.
 
John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736



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To: "realstmfc@groups.io" <realstmfc@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:02 AM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] ACL ventilated box car in lumber service


ACL ventilated box car in lumber service

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] 1948 PS-1 for P&WV

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Thanks, Ed! I sent Sam a bunch of pics.

Elden Gatwood

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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 8:10 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] 1948 PS-1 for P&WV


On Aug 14, 2018, at 12:42 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil <mailto:elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> > wrote:


Do you know if Kadee is planning on doing the PS-1 they did for P&WV? It appears the P&WV cars differ from the ATSF cars in that they have the "wide panel at the tack boards" Superior doors, but in most ways are the same.

And do you know if they came as-built in the "no logo" scheme with red sides & roof and black ends? The as-built photo looks like it, but I never know until someone who knows better tells me.



Elden,
Based on future releases currently on the Kadee web site, they will offer at least 3 new doors representing prototype cars built in 1947-1948.

1. Superior 7-panel doors for 6' door openings like shown on the ATSF cars (November release) with the door placard mounted to the 2nd stiffener from the top.

2. Superior 7-panel doors for 7' door openings like shown on the NH cars (January 2019 release) with the door placard mounted to the 2nd stiffener from the top.

3. Superior 7-panel doors for 6' door openings like shown on the Southern cars (February 2019 release) with the door placard flush-mounted to the 2nd panel from the top.

I'm not privy to Kadee's production plans beyond those shown on the web site, but it would make sense that models of prototype cars using these doors and other prototype features matching the new bodies & detail parts will be produced. This should include P&WV 1300-1399, P-S lot 5919A, built 11-48 having doors as described in 3 above in the as-built scheme with circular P&WV monogram located to the right of the door on the 2nd side panel from the end.

If you or anyone else have paint specs for the P&WV PS-1 box cars, I'm quite sure that Sam Clarke at Kadee would like to see them. Photos I've seen indicate freight car red/brown sides and black ends. Roof color is difficult to discern from some black & white photos, however, an in-service photo of 1392 is clear evidence of a black roof.

Models of the P&WV late 1950s, all-black repaints with "symbol of Service" slogans should also be offered. Hope this helps to answer your question.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] NKP container gons

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Bill;

Thanks in advance!

Elden Gatwood

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of william darnaby
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] NKP container gons

Well, these cars were rated for 70 tons and the containers were 7 ton each plus tare weight so it would be 9. I found an ad in the 1946 CBCyc for the containers that showed how the containers were placed in the car. But it has been long enough that I don't remember the modeling details and, being at the lake house, I can't lay my hands on the car or the cyc until I go back north.


Bill Darnaby
Lake Shafer Indiana


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Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] NKP container gons


Thank you, Bill! Did you do a full load, or one of the 9 container versions?

Thanks!

Elden Gatwood

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Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] NKP container gons

I did one several years ago for Martin Lofton when the 46' gon kit first came out. The Walthers containers work very nicely.


Bill Darnaby


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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2018 9:08 AM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] NKP container gons


Gang;


Have any of you done a NKP container gon, specifically the ones with containers for powdered dolomite? I think Sunshine did a kit of the car; what did you use for containers?


Thanks!


Elden Gatwood


Re: Southwest Scale Productions Doors

 

I will second Bill. I recently ordered and received some of Dan's Superior doors, and they are very nice.


Re: Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Six

Paul Doggett
 

Excellent modelling as ever Bill.

Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 15 Aug 2018, at 22:47, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:

I am behind on reporting about my progress with my Wabash War Emergency boxcar. Most recently I focused on shortening the ends, cutting off the Poling Pockets and the rivet strip along the bottom w/,y UUM saw blade and sanding just a little until the bottom of the ends were even with the floor. Then I used 0.005 styrene to create a new rivet base for the Archer Rivets along the bottom. Before decaling I prepped the surface with Future/Pledge. After the decals were set w/Microscale Red Label I applied more Future/Pledge. I use .010 wire for the Retainer Line Pipe and the same wire size flattened to form the two pipe brackets. The retainer is my favored Precision Scale part. I used the Yarmouth Drill Template to locate and drill the #77 holes for a Kadee Bracket Grab. I actually enjoy bending wire and so making the Hand Grab that is under the ladder was fun because it is a little unusual.. I drilled several holes along the center of a piece of Evergreen .020 x .040 and cut this into small lengths that became the mounting tabs for the bottom grab on the right. I used Testors to attach these. After these had cured overnight and I then reinforced this joint with small pieces of .020 x .020 styrene. After I was sure this was all cured I carved them to shape. I wrapped up detailing the ends by adding Bolt Heads on the face of the ribs using rivets harvested from an Athearn boxcar.

The Grab Irons on the left end of the sides are attached in an interesting way I think—on the car body the attachment bolt is above the grab while on the side of the end the bolt is horizontally aligned with the grab. Towards the end of construction and prior to priming I will apply Archer rivets to the edge of the ends. My plan here is to use Rivet Decals with a slightly different spacing to create a little contrast with the rivet detail on the wood siding that will be parallel.

Bill Welch

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Re: Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Six

vapeurchapelon
 

This will become a really beautyful car, no doubt.
 
Johannes
 
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Von: "Bill Welch" <fgexbill@...>
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Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Six
Hi Marty, here is an example: https://www.micromark.com/mini-hand-tools/saws-miter-boxes

I think UUM is one brand name but do not know what it stand for, essentially a double edged razor blade w/teeth. Very easy to make a straight cut with this blade.

Bill Welch


Re: Weathered M&StL Box Car 24t62

John Holmes
 

Fine looking model Les.  Thanks for sharing.

John Holmes

On Aug 15, 2018, at 8:34 AM, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:

After sitting for a week, I have weathered  previously built, painted and lettered Sunshine Models , Minneapolis & St. Louis 24562, 4C-XM-1 Pratt truss Box Car, flat resin kit 91.1.  I used photo Clark Propst provided me for this purpose.   I have updated my blog to allow comparison of before and after photos on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you are interested in viewing additional photos take a look at the following:
 
 
Lester Breuer
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Re: Weathered M&StL Box Car 24t62

gtws00
 

Car looks good all weathered up. Just the right amount of weathering.
George Toman


Re: Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Six

Marty McGuirk
 

Bill, 

Thanks - I just ordered the one from MM last week!

Marty

On Aug 15, 2018, at 7:52 PM, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:

Hi Marty, here is an example: https://www.micromark.com/mini-hand-tools/saws-miter-boxes

I think UUM is one brand name but do not know what it stand for, essentially a double edged razor blade w/teeth. Very easy to make a straight cut with this blade.

Bill Welch


Southwest Scale Productions Doors

Bill Welch
 

After the Collinsville RPM I ordered more doors from Southwest Scale Productions for two types of post-WWII Youngstown doors used on post-war 10-ft. IH steel cars. Since some people here may not know about this resource I thought I would include some photos. Southwest Scale Productions is a small company owned and operated by Dan Hall who clearly has mad skills cutting tooling to make his doors. Dan trains airline pilot so he travels meaning orders may not filled as fast as Amazon but I wanted to present evidence they do get filled: http://www.southwestscale.com/

Dan, as an retired National Guard pilot can tell you why the F4 Phantom is proof that if you put a large enough engine in anything it will fly—aerodynamics be damned. But I digress

One of my photos shows my latest order with notes about which cars were so equipped using Ed Hawkins comprehensive Steel Car database. Note that Dan and Ed use different notations or code in counting the ribs. The other photo shows my stash of his other doors. The only doors not in stock SP Overnight type door with the 6-foot wide Youngstown 10' 0" Interim Improved type.

If you are building Ya'll Road 10-ft 6-in. IH steel cars check Ed's material as you may need the doors along the bottom of the box.

Bill Welch


Re: Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Six

Bill Welch
 

Hi Marty, here is an example: https://www.micromark.com/mini-hand-tools/saws-miter-boxes

I think UUM is one brand name but do not know what it stand for, essentially a double edged razor blade w/teeth. Very easy to make a straight cut with this blade.

Bill Welch


Re: Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Six

Marty McGuirk
 

Bill, 

Looking great - 

one questions - what’s an "y UUM saw blade?"

On Aug 15, 2018, at 6:24 PM, gtws00 via Groups.Io <gtws00@...> wrote:

Nice job Bill


Re: Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Six

gtws00
 

Nice job Bill


Re: Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Six

O Fenton Wells
 

Looking good Bill, well done
Fenton

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 5:47 PM, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
I am behind on reporting about my progress with my Wabash War Emergency boxcar. Most recently I focused on shortening the ends, cutting off the Poling Pockets and the rivet strip along the bottom w/,y UUM saw blade and sanding just a little until the bottom of the ends were even with the floor. Then I used 0.005 styrene to create a new rivet base for the Archer Rivets along the bottom. Before decaling I prepped the surface with Future/Pledge. After the decals were set w/Microscale Red Label I applied more Future/Pledge. I use .010 wire for the Retainer Line Pipe and the same wire size flattened to form the two pipe brackets. The retainer is my favored Precision Scale part. I used the Yarmouth Drill Template to locate and drill the #77 holes for a Kadee Bracket Grab. I actually enjoy bending wire and so making the Hand Grab that is under the ladder was fun because it is a little unusual.. I drilled several holes along the center of a piece of Evergreen .020 x .040 and cut this into small lengths that became the mounting tabs for the bottom grab on the right. I used Testors to attach these. After these had cured overnight and I then reinforced this joint with small pieces of .020 x .020 styrene. After I was sure this was all cured I carved them to shape. I wrapped up detailing the ends by adding Bolt Heads on the face of the ribs using rivets harvested from an Athearn boxcar.

The Grab Irons on the left end of the sides are attached in an interesting way I think—on the car body the attachment bolt is above the grab while on the side of the end the bolt is horizontally aligned with the grab. Towards the end of construction and prior to priming I will apply Archer rivets to the edge of the ends. My plan here is to use Rivet Decals with a slightly different spacing to create a little contrast with the rivet detail on the wood siding that will be parallel.

Bill Welch




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Wabash War Emergency Boxcar Part Six

Bill Welch
 

I am behind on reporting about my progress with my Wabash War Emergency boxcar. Most recently I focused on shortening the ends, cutting off the Poling Pockets and the rivet strip along the bottom w/,y UUM saw blade and sanding just a little until the bottom of the ends were even with the floor. Then I used 0.005 styrene to create a new rivet base for the Archer Rivets along the bottom. Before decaling I prepped the surface with Future/Pledge. After the decals were set w/Microscale Red Label I applied more Future/Pledge. I use .010 wire for the Retainer Line Pipe and the same wire size flattened to form the two pipe brackets. The retainer is my favored Precision Scale part. I used the Yarmouth Drill Template to locate and drill the #77 holes for a Kadee Bracket Grab. I actually enjoy bending wire and so making the Hand Grab that is under the ladder was fun because it is a little unusual.. I drilled several holes along the center of a piece of Evergreen .020 x .040 and cut this into small lengths that became the mounting tabs for the bottom grab on the right. I used Testors to attach these. After these had cured overnight and I then reinforced this joint with small pieces of .020 x .020 styrene. After I was sure this was all cured I carved them to shape. I wrapped up detailing the ends by adding Bolt Heads on the face of the ribs using rivets harvested from an Athearn boxcar.

The Grab Irons on the left end of the sides are attached in an interesting way I think—on the car body the attachment bolt is above the grab while on the side of the end the bolt is horizontally aligned with the grab. Towards the end of construction and prior to priming I will apply Archer rivets to the edge of the ends. My plan here is to use Rivet Decals with a slightly different spacing to create a little contrast with the rivet detail on the wood siding that will be parallel.

Bill Welch


Re: Weathered M&StL Box Car 24t62

Joseph
 

Nice car Les.  I have about 5 more to build.   You could make them for me and they would get in to service more quickly....
Joe Binish


On Aug 15, 2018, at 10:34 AM, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:

After sitting for a week, I have weathered  previously built, painted and lettered Sunshine Models , Minneapolis & St. Louis 24562, 4C-XM-1 Pratt truss Box Car, flat resin kit 91.1.  I used photo Clark Propst provided me for this purpose.   I have updated my blog to allow comparison of before and after photos on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you are interested in viewing additional photos take a look at the following:
 
 
Lester Breuer
<69B4D02E_5EC3_4BFC_A783_4773F8513A81.jpeg>


Weathered M&StL Box Car 24t62

Lester Breuer
 

After sitting for a week, I have weathered  previously built, painted and lettered Sunshine Models , Minneapolis & St. Louis 24562, 4C-XM-1 Pratt truss Box Car, flat resin kit 91.1.  I used photo Clark Propst provided me for this purpose.   I have updated my blog to allow comparison of before and after photos on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you are interested in viewing additional photos take a look at the following:
 
 
Lester Breuer

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