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Re: News from Steve Funaro on Wabash Automobile Box and Stock Cars

Chet French <cfrench@gallatinriver.net> <cfrench@...>
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "Fritz Milhaupt <fmilhaupt@y...>"
<fmilhaupt@y...> wrote:
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "skunkskunk2001 <fwj@m...>"
<fwj@m...>
wrote:
I spoke with Steve Funaro recently at a the Saline, Michigan
train
show. He said they will have several versions of the Single
Sheath/"Z" brace Wabash Automobile box cars (various end and door
versions) including the resheathed sheet metal version available
this
year. And, get this, he is also doing the stock car that was
made
from these cars!
[snip]
Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana
Anyone got a number series for these stock cars, and a general
range
of dates they were in service?


Information on all these cars are on Ted Culotta's website
www.steamfreightcars.com Check the Wabash 17000 series car in the
box car/auto car gallery.

Chet French
Dixon, IL


Re: News from Steve Funaro on Wabash Automobile Box and Stock Cars

Fritz Milhaupt
 

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "skunkskunk2001 <fwj@m...>" <fwj@m...>
wrote:
I spoke with Steve Funaro recently at a the Saline, Michigan train
show. He said they will have several versions of the Single
Sheath/"Z" brace Wabash Automobile box cars (various end and door
versions) including the resheathed sheet metal version available
this
year. And, get this, he is also doing the stock car that was made
from these cars!
[snip]
Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana
Anyone got a number series for these stock cars, and a general range
of dates they were in service?

-fm


Re: Mather Refrg. cars

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Chuck Yungkurth wrote
I have a friend here who badly wants to see any photos of Mather
refrigerators lettered for URTX. Think these are in the 4xxx and
5xxx series.
Richard Hendrickson replied
Chuck, to the best of my knowledge Union Refrigerator Transis owned
NO Mather reefers
Chuck,

If you like, I can forward scans from Jim Sands and Charlie Hauser
and another, of URTX 4xxx series reefers. One is a steel car of unknown
heritage, the other are plug door equipped wood rebuilds of a mysterious
nature. From somewhere I have a scan of the reporting marks from sill
to roof line of URTX 5567 but I'm not sure how much can be gleaned
from that.

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@attbi.com>
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: News from Steve Funaro on Wabash Automobile Box and Stock Cars

Rob Adams
 

Victor;

That is indeed great news for modelers if those Wabash SS box cars will
be reworked from their original incarnation. The original F&C Wabash
Automobile box cars were characterized by many of the deficiencies of
early resin offerings from F&C and some others. It sounds like they are
doing additional versions, and the stock car is definitely a pleasant
surprise. I look forward to seeing their efforts.

The Wabash 13000 series 41'6" War Emergency gon model from F&C is indeed
pretty nice. The castings are not quite in the same league as
comparable offerings from Westerfield or Sunshine, but the kit assembles
into a very nice model of a distinctive car. I would highly recommend
augmenting/replacing the decals with the pieces from the Mark Vaughan
Wabash hopper car set, as some of the lettering dimensions/shapes leave
a bit to be desired in the F&C set.

Rob Adams
Wellman, Iowa



"skunkskunk2001 " wrote:


I spoke with Steve Funaro recently at a the Saline, Michigan train
show. He said they will have several versions of the Single
Sheath/"Z" brace Wabash Automobile box cars (various end and door
versions) including the resheathed sheet metal version available this
year. And, get this, he is also doing the stock car that was made
from these cars!

He told me that he plans to have the kits ready for sale at the time
of the Toronto NMRA Convention. I also bought a couple of the 13000
series Wabash gondola kits "in a bag" and they look nice.

Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana

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Re: Mather Refrg. cars

Richard Hendrickson
 

Chuck Yungkurth writes:

I have a friend here who badly wants to see any photos of Mather
refrigerators lettered for URTX. Think these are in the 4xxx and 5xxx series.
Apparently some of these were published in the model rr press. Just knowing
the mag and issue would be a big help.

Any info as to where he could buy prints or find a scan would be appreciated.
Chuck, to the best of my knowledge Union Refrigerator Transis owned NO
Mather reefers (all Mather reefers were owned by the Mather Stock Car Co.,
which leased them to various packing houses), and I've never seen a photo,
published or not, that showed otherwise. I think this is a lost cause.
URTX did have a lot of 36' meat reefers on their roster but they were
mostly built by GATC (which owned URT) and were only vaguely similar to the
Mather cars.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


(No subject)

Richard Hendrickson
 

Mike Turner asks:

Are the P2K and Intermountain type 27 8k and 10k gal tank
cars models of the same prototype cars?
If so, which one is more accurate? TIA.
No, the P2K models represent AC&F Type 21s built in the 1920s, while the IM
models represent AC&F Type 27s built from 1927 through WW II. Both are
essentially accurate, though the Life-Like underframe is better detailed
than the IM underframe. Also, all of L-L's paint ant lettering schemes are
accurate, based on photographic evidence, while some IM P/L schemes are
questionable.

Richard H. Hendrickson
Ashland, Oregon 97520


(No subject)

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

Are the P2K and Intermountain type 27 8k and 10k gal tank
cars models of the same prototype cars?
No. P2K is an ACF Type 21; IRC is an ACF Type 27.

If so, which one is more accurate? TIA.
P2K's is more accurate because it has fewer mistakes. The
IRC tank car's underframe center sill is completely bogus,
for example. Also, P2K paint schemes tend to be entirely
accurate (mistakes are unintended) while IRC paints their
cars pretty much to sell, regardless of accuracy.

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@attbi.com>
Sterling, Massachusetts


(No subject)

Mike Turner <yardcoolieyahoo@...>
 

Are the P2K and Intermountain type 27 8k and 10k gal tank cars models of the same prototype cars?
If so, which one is more accurate? TIA.

Mike Turner
Simpsonville, SC


Interesting find on Con Cor site

Ray Breyer <rbreyer@...>
 

Group,

I was browsing around on the Con Cor site (don't ask), and ran across
something interesting. They're having a mega sale to clear out inventory,
and for some reason they have Westerfield kits for sale - at 60% off!
They're list is here:

http://www.con-cor.com/yardsale/ydsale2.txt

Ya gotta scroll down past the Stewart stuff, but that small inconvienence is
worth it, considering how cheap these things are!

They've got a lot of other stuff on sale, all at the 60% off price, so you
might want to browse around a bit.

Have fun!

Ray Breyer


Re: Interesting find on Con Cor site

Paul LaCiura <paul@...>
 

Ray,

I think that the sale that you refer to was last year and was a rapid
sell-out.

Paul
San Jose

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Breyer [mailto:rbreyer@cesinfo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 4:38 PM
To: STMFC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [STMFC] Interesting find on Con Cor site


Group,

I was browsing around on the Con Cor site (don't ask), and ran across
something interesting. They're having a mega sale to clear out inventory,
and for some reason they have Westerfield kits for sale - at 60% off!
They're list is here:

http://www.con-cor.com/yardsale/ydsale2.txt

Ya gotta scroll down past the Stewart stuff, but that small inconvienence is
worth it, considering how cheap these things are!

They've got a lot of other stuff on sale, all at the 60% off price, so you
might want to browse around a bit.

Have fun!

Ray Breyer


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Mather Refrg. cars

raildata@...
 

I have a friend here who badly wants to see any photos of Mather
refrigerators lettered for URTX. Think these are in the 4xxx and 5xxx series.
Apparently some of these were published in the model rr press. Just knowing
the mag and issue would be a big help.

Any info as to where he could buy prints or find a scan would be appreciated.

Chuck Yungkurth
Boulder CO


Re: [RM-forum] You think kits are dead?

Denis F. Blake <dblake3@...>
 

This guy has tons of cars up for auction now.

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=used.ho.t
rains&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25

Check them out.

Denis F. Blake
NS Conductor
Columbus, Ohio
TTHOTS

Visit my photosite at

http://hyperphoto.photoloft.com/view/allalbums.asp?s=cano&u=1665499

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim O'Connor" <timoconnor@attbi.com>
To: <stmfc@yahoogroups.com>; <railroadmodeler@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: [RM-forum] You think kits are dead?



Just look at the prices these kits are fetching on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114617580
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114614683
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114606388
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114609615
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114609635
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=484&item=3114615702

I'm sure there are real hobby shops out there, looking at these same
kits collecting dust on their shelves, wondering What the Heck?

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@attbi.com>
Sterling, Massachusetts


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You think kits are dead?

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 


Re: RP CYC Vol. 8 Special Offer

atsfjim@...
 

Hi Ed, I just returned from a trip and read this offer. I wanted to take
advantage of it but I am just over the deadline. Anyway you could extend it
and I will mail a money order tomorrow, 2/18, for Vol. 8. Please let me
know. Thanks. Jim Barnes


B&M/GEX well hole flat car diagrams

tcschc <tculotta@speedwitch.com> <tculotta@...>
 

I have been meaning to do it ever since the thread started, but have been ill. However, I finally scanned the car diagram sheets for the B&M and GEX well hole flat cars. They are in the files section. The two files are: bm5000.jpg and gex2000.jpg.

Regards,
Ted Culotta


News from Steve Funaro on Wabash Automobile Box and Stock Cars

skunkskunk2001 <fwj@mail.fwi.com> <fwj@...>
 

I spoke with Steve Funaro recently at a the Saline, Michigan train
show. He said they will have several versions of the Single
Sheath/"Z" brace Wabash Automobile box cars (various end and door
versions) including the resheathed sheet metal version available this
year. And, get this, he is also doing the stock car that was made
from these cars!

He told me that he plans to have the kits ready for sale at the time
of the Toronto NMRA Convention. I also bought a couple of the 13000
series Wabash gondola kits "in a bag" and they look nice.


Victor Baird
Fort Wayne, Indiana


Re: AAR Box Car Underframe

Jeff English
 

Guy,
Thanks very much for straightening me out. OK, Earl, I'll be
moving ahead with fabricating bolsters now.

Jeff English
Troy, New York

--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, Guycwilber@a... wrote:
In a message dated 2/15/03 2:21:14 PM Pacific Standard Time,
englij@r...
writes:

<< "AAR Standard double
steel-sheathed box car", with reference to Supplement to the
Manual Plate 1512. >>

Jeff,

I did some further checking...1512 is indeed the bolster detail
drawing
(plate) for the 1937 car, and subsequent designs. The 1940 CBC
has the
correct plate number listed, however it is accompanies the wrong
drawing.

Further, the 1951 change to the 24" width was for the top plate
only, the
bottom plate remained 21" in width.

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Sparks, Nevada


Re: Dreadnaught End Info Request

Gene Green <willibecher@juno.com> <willibecher@...>
 

That is Gene Green at willibecher @ juno dot com.

Gene Green


Re: Dreadnaught End Info Request

Gene Green <willibecher@juno.com> <willibecher@...>
 

Please contact me off list at willibecher@juno.com. Perhaps I can
help.
Gene Green
--- In STMFC@yahoogroups.com, "largo621 <Callie17@a...>"
<Callie17@a...> wrote:
The recent thread regarding the Intermountain boxcar kits and the
source of the tooling for the dreadnaught ends has rekindled an old
interest of mine: building a large scale (3/4") Pennsy X-29.

I was wondering if anyone could suggest a good source for
reasonably
detailed erection drawings of the various flavors of dreadnaught
ends.

Callie


Re: Pennsy X-37B Boxcars 1941 built with #64400-65399

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@...>
 

I am looking at a photo of X37 #65922.

The closest match in HO is Kadee's Universal brake wheel. I think
the prototype had an earlier style Universal model with 4 or 5 holes
in the center disk. I suppose you could just drill holes in Kadee's
version (which has a solid center disk) to simulate it.


Can anyone tell me which brake wheel/s came on this series cars. A specific
wheel type with a specfic car number from a photo will work.
Paul Lyons
Oceanside, CA

Tim O'Connor <timoconnor@attbi.com>
Sterling, Massachusetts

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