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Re: Virginian's battleship gons

Bill McClure
 

I simply caution that there are some issues with those drawings, including the brake system and interior details, IIRC.

Bil


Re: HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings

Tony Thompson
 

Dan Mitchell wrote:

Yes, but solid bearings are NOT “solid”. And ball and roller bearings still have friction.

  Gee, those bronze blocks look pretty solid . . . my impression from Railway Age and other professional literature is that the term "plain bearing" was more prevalent than "solid bearing."

Tony Thompson




Re: Accurail gondola

Matt Smith
 

Mike,

You can get an Accurail version with the logo you are referencing. Here is the link.
http://www.accurail.com/accurail/ART/3700/3703_2.jpg
--
Matt Smith
Bloomington, IL


Re: HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

Athearn had a crude “rotating caps” version much earlier (1980’s?), but I don’t know what it represented.

Dan Mitchell
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On Aug 21, 2018, at 11:16 AM, Brian Carlson via Groups.Io <prrk41361@...> wrote:

Kato did Barber S-2 trucks with rotating caps. I think they were 70 ton trucks. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Aug 21, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Aley, Jeff A <Jeff.A.Aley@...> wrote:

Who did the truck where the bearing caps actually rotated?  Wasn’t that an ASF A-3?  Was that the Athearn that Ben mentioned?
 
Regards,
 
-Jeff
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 5:23 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings
 

The Kato trucks are not roller bearing equipped. 

Brian J. Carlson 


On Aug 21, 2018, at 6:25 AM, Dave Strahlendorf <das1054@...> wrote:

Kato makes this truck. Here is a link at Lombard Hobbies:
 



Re: HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings

Daniel A. Mitchell
 

Yes, but solid bearings are NOT “solid”. And ball and roller bearings still have friction.

Ill defined technical terms, varying with application, and mixed with "common usage”. You say “Potato” and I say “Tomato” … or something like that. Mostly we’ll all know what it means.

The term “friction bearing” seems to have appeared as a counterpoint to the term “anti-friction bearing”. Before that they were just bearings.

Such A-F bearings go back well into the 19th century (sometimes earlier), were around in "high-tech” (vehicles, aircraft, and instruments, etc.) from perhaps the 1920’s, were the norm in such apparatus during WWII, but didn’t become common on railroad axles until well after WWII.

Note the term ANTI-friction … they have less friction, but still have some. An some forms of “friction” or “solid’ bearings can have less friction than most anti-friction bearings. And some “anti-friction” bearings can have quite high friction. Confusing?

Dan Mitchell
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On Aug 21, 2018, at 10:48 AM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

Agreed, and you may add stirrup step and roof walk to your basket of deplorables.
 
Nelson Moyer
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 9:34 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings
 

There is no such thing as friction bearings, they are solid bearings.  Sorry that’s my pet peeve. 

Brian J. Carlson 


On Aug 21, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Peter Ness <prness@...> wrote:

Thanks, Dave. Kato makes a friction bearing version, not the roller bearing.
 
Regards,
Peter
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Strahlendorf
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 6:26 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings
 
Kato makes this truck. Here is a link at Lombard Hobbies:
 



Re: Whaling car

Brent Greer
 

Hi George,

I was born and raised in Marion, VA so this is fascinating to me and I would love to be included on any information you uncover regarding this shipment. I will also start digging on my own and if I can find anything I will share it with you as well.

Regards,
Brent

________________________________
Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of George Courtney via Groups.Io <gsc3@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 7:39:04 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Whaling car
 
Reading some Dispatcher notes from Southern Railway dated 5/23/32. it reads "No. 65 picked up Pacific Whaling Car 601 from Elizabethton to Bristol in route to Marion, Virginia.  Anyone have a photo of a Pacific Whaling car?  Or know more about this?

George Courtney


Re: Virginian's battleship gons

Allan Smith
 

Robert L Hundman has an article in Mainline Modeler June 2006  page 38 -44 with plans and photos of the G-3 G-4 and G-4C.

Al Smith
Sonora Ca


On Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:15 PM, Rich Yoder <oscale48@...> wrote:


Hi Curt,
What are you looking for?
Sincerely,
Rich Yoder
 
 
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Curt Fortenberry
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 12:54 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Virginian's battleship gons
 
Can someone point me to a good reference on the Virginian's battleship gons; class G3 and G4.  Where there other classes?  Thanks.

Curt Fortenberry



Re: Whaling car

George Courtney
 

Ah, a tank car of whaling oil.  Going to Marion, Virginia.  I wasn't sure what kind of car but a tank car makes sense.

Thanks,
George Courtney


Re: Whaling car

Douglas Harding
 

Check page 96 of Edward S. Kaminski's "Tank Cars--American Car & Foundry Company, 1865 to 1955" for a photo of APWX 7166 built September 1917 and lettered American Pacific Whaling Company.

Also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pacific_Whaling_Company

http://www.nakina.net/private/apwx.html

https://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c8z03ckh/entire_text/

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of George Courtney via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 6:39 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Whaling car

 

Reading some Dispatcher notes from Southern Railway dated 5/23/32. it reads "No. 65 picked up Pacific Whaling Car 601 from Elizabethton to Bristol in route to Marion, Virginia.  Anyone have a photo of a Pacific Whaling car?  Or know more about this?

George Courtney


Re: 1937 shot at Ft. Belvoir

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 8/21/2018 12:13 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:
This is an amazing photo!  From the Library of Congress, this is the railhead at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, 1937.  The US Army railroad there interchanged with the RF&P.

    Interesting.  Looks like all the officers are wearing riding boots.  Was that normal for the corp of engineers?

-- 
Jon Miller
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Re: Whaling car

Alexander Schneider Jr
 

Was it offered (presumably by another vendor ) in HO?

Alex Schneider 


On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 6:56 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;)
<claus@...> wrote:
Hi George,
 
I don't have any expert information on this, but perhaps the link below will provide a clue for further research...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 7:39 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Whaling car

Reading some Dispatcher notes from Southern Railway dated 5/23/32. it reads "No. 65 picked up Pacific Whaling Car 601 from Elizabethton to Bristol in route to Marion, Virginia.  Anyone have a photo of a Pacific Whaling car?  Or know more about this?

George Courtney


Re: Whaling car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi George,
 
I don't have any expert information on this, but perhaps the link below will provide a clue for further research...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 
 
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 7:39 PM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Whaling car

Reading some Dispatcher notes from Southern Railway dated 5/23/32. it reads "No. 65 picked up Pacific Whaling Car 601 from Elizabethton to Bristol in route to Marion, Virginia.  Anyone have a photo of a Pacific Whaling car?  Or know more about this?

George Courtney


Whaling car

George Courtney
 

Reading some Dispatcher notes from Southern Railway dated 5/23/32. it reads "No. 65 picked up Pacific Whaling Car 601 from Elizabethton to Bristol in route to Marion, Virginia.  Anyone have a photo of a Pacific Whaling car?  Or know more about this?

George Courtney


Re: Does Kadee Use Styrene?

Bill Welch
 

I just learned from an authoritative source that indeed the major parts for the Kadee PS-2 are styrene. Onward on my project.

Bill Welch


1937 shot at Ft. Belvoir

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,

This is an amazing photo!  From the Library of Congress, this is the railhead at Fort Belvoir, Virginia, 1937.  The US Army railroad there interchanged with the RF&P.

The caption reads “Fort Belvoir troops proceed to flood area. Fort Belvoir, Va. Company B of the 5th Regiment of Engineers, stationed at this post a short distance from the Capitol, mobilized complete campaign equipment today and prepared to entrain immediately for the devastated flood area near Louisville, Ky. in this photo one of the boats to be used is shown being put aboard the train”

For the railroad fan, the flat cars appear to be 2 PRR F30A cars and a PRR FM. Notice the B&O “mansard roof” double door M-27b/Fcar in the right distance, and what appear to be 2 PRR B60B baggage cars, and potentially a B60 in the back-middle of the photo. I believe that every one of these cars is/was available in HO scale

For the military fan, get a load of that Mack half-track crane! And of course, the engineering pontoons.  But that Mack…. too cool! Might anyone have any more information on the Mack? Photos?

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."





Re: What color is the Frisco Gondola in the picture?

Jack Mullen
 

If you look at the photo and note the contrast between the black background of the Frisco logo and the car side, I think you can reach a reasonable conclusion.

Of course, Calvin's dad would say the photo proves it's gray.   ;^)

Jack Mullen


Re: HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings

Aley, Jeff A
 

Ah – that’s the one.  Thanks Brian!

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 8:17 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings

 

Kato did Barber S-2 trucks with rotating caps. I think they were 70 ton trucks. 

Brian J. Carlson 


On Aug 21, 2018, at 10:57 AM, Aley, Jeff A <Jeff.A.Aley@...> wrote:

Who did the truck where the bearing caps actually rotated?  Wasn’t that an ASF A-3?  Was that the Athearn that Ben mentioned?

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 5:23 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings

 

The Kato trucks are not roller bearing equipped. 

Brian J. Carlson 


On Aug 21, 2018, at 6:25 AM, Dave Strahlendorf <das1054@...> wrote:

Kato makes this truck. Here is a link at Lombard Hobbies:

 


Re: HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings

Peter Ness
 

Brian, no worries, I’d rather learn the correct term J thanks for the education!

 

Regards,

Peter

 

Peter R. Ness
website: http://newhavenrailroad1959.webs.com/

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 10:34 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings

 

There is no such thing as friction bearings, they are solid bearings.  Sorry that’s my pet peeve. 

Brian J. Carlson 


On Aug 21, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Peter Ness <prness@...> wrote:

Thanks, Dave. Kato makes a friction bearing version, not the roller bearing.

 

Regards,

Peter

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Strahlendorf
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 6:26 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO scale ASF A-3 Ride Control trucks with roller bearings

 

Kato makes this truck. Here is a link at Lombard Hobbies:

 


Re: Does Kadee Use Styrene?

Richard Brennan
 

I'm pretty sure the car body injection machines I saw at Kadee in Oregon were all set-up for styrene...
but don't trust me... ask Sam Clarke - i.e. 'Sam the Answer Man' at Kadee;
https://kadee.com/htmbord/answer.htm

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Richard Brennan - San Leandro CA
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At 08:33 AM 8/21/2018, Bill Welch wrote:
I am studying how to use a Kadee PS-2 to model the 1955 Greenville built Western Maryland covered hopper. These cars had what I will call "standing roof ribs" that were riveted that I think I can replicate using .005 and .010 styrene/ My question can I use the typical styrene solvent type glues like Testors or Tamiya? Doe any one here know if Kadee uses styrene for their major parts or another type of plastic?


Does Kadee Use Styrene?

Bill Welch
 

I am studying how to use a Kadee PS-2 to model the 1955 Greenville built Western Maryland covered hopper. These cars had what I will call "standing roof ribs" that were riveted that I think I can replicate using .005 and .010 styrene/ My question can I use the typical styrene solvent type glues like Testors or Tamiya? Doe any one here know if Kadee uses styrene for their major parts or another type of plastic?

Bill Welch

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