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Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] RPM Chicagoland Photos

Nelson Moyer
 

In partial defense of the guilty, I believe it should be stated that the theme of the meeting was to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the founding of the event by Martin Lofton, who also founded Sunshine Models. The organizers did this by honoring Trish Martin at the banquet, and facilitating a rather impressive historical time line of models. I don’t believe they intended to slight the contributions of Al Westerfield to the hobby, it’s just that Al didn’t start the Naperville RPM, and Martin did.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 6:24 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] [ResinFreightCarBuilders] RPM Chicagoland Photos

 

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 03:29 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:

but to mention Sunshine without mentioning WESTERFIELD is to my mind a
huge omission!

I concur. 

Dennis Storzek


Re: When were Carmer Coupler Levers Outlawed for Interchange

Dave Parker
 

My notes say the rotary hardware became a requirement for new cars in 1933, but I don't have a primary reference or an exact date.

Guy W would know I expect.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: When were Carmer Coupler Levers Outlawed for Interchange

Eric Hansmann
 

I don’t recall Carmer hardware being outlawed. But I think a requirement came down for rotary operated hardware on all new cars. I can’t recall a date or source. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Oct 21, 2018, at 2:17 PM, Ken Adams <smadanek44g@...> wrote:

When were Carmer Coupler Levers Outlawed for Interchange? I seem to recall somewhere that they were not allowed by 1950.


Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] RPM Chicagoland Photos

Dennis Storzek
 

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 03:29 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
but to mention Sunshine without mentioning WESTERFIELD is to my mind a
huge omission!
I concur. 

Dennis Storzek


Re: [ResinFreightCarBuilders] RPM Chicagoland Photos

Tim O'Connor
 

Jeremy

Thank you for posting that photo collection.

I must say, I understand a single poster showing the timeline of Railroad Prototype Modeling
is pressed for space... but to mention Sunshine without mentioning WESTERFIELD is to my mind a
huge omission! The RPM movement was already well developed when Sunshine came onto the scene.

And I think the genesis of RPM was not the models, but several important publications! Authors
and scratchbuilders led the way - RPM could never have happened without them.

Tim O'Connor

-------------------------

Greetings,

Here is a link to my photo gallery from this weekend's RPM Chicagoland:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/m6w5uzssH2WUihhq9

And... some video I shot at the show as well:

https://youtu.be/U8mhe5370MQ

Enjoy!

Jeremy Dummler
Wauconda, IL

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: RPM Chicagoland Photos

Lester Breuer
 

Thanks for sharing. A chance to see the models as I could not attend.
Lester Breuer


Re: When were Carmer Coupler Levers Outlawed for Interchange

Tim O'Connor
 


Where's Guy Wilber when we need him? :-) But I never heard of them being outlawed.
They were definitely still around in the 1950's.

Tim O'


 There were still a few in service when I hired out as brakeman in 1976.
 Jeff Coleman


  Ken Adams asked:
  When were Carmer Coupler Levers Outlawed for Interchange? I seem to recall
  somewhere that they were not allowed by 1950.

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: When were Carmer Coupler Levers Outlawed for Interchange

Jeff Coleman
 

There were still a few in service when I hired out as brakeman in 1976.

Jeff Coleman

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018, 3:17 PM Ken Adams <smadanek44g@...> wrote:
When were Carmer Coupler Levers Outlawed for Interchange? I seem to recall somewhere that they were not allowed by 1950.


When were Carmer Coupler Levers Outlawed for Interchange

Ken Adams
 

When were Carmer Coupler Levers Outlawed for Interchange? I seem to recall somewhere that they were not allowed by 1950.


More 41-ft Gondolas

rwitt_2000
 

Found this listing on eBay for a slide of a GA 41-ft gondola.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-slide-Georgia-Railroad-gondola-29406-in-1968/223189556129?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D7cffb5b6f85b44e685a7eb8bfff1f5e9%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D332840825601%26itm%3D223189556129&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A049062a8-d563-11e8-8cdc-74dbd180194a%7Cparentrq%3A97fc56f81660aade1e80787afff6602e%7Ciid%3A1
has a length of 438 characters 

TinyURL:  https://tinyurl.com/y9fq3bbg

Bob Witt


Re: RPM Chicagoland Photos

Robert J Miller CFA
 

Great photos, Jeremy. Thanks for sharing.

 


From: main@realstmfc.groups.io on behalf of O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 1:48 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RPM Chicagoland Photos
 
Thanks for sharing Jeremy, Looks like a well attended show.
Fenton

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 2:23 PM Jeremy Dummler <jkdummler@...> wrote:
Greetings,

Here is a link to my photo gallery from this weekend's RPM Chicagoland: 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/m6w5uzssH2WUihhq9

And... some video I shot at the show as well:

https://youtu.be/U8mhe5370MQ


Enjoy!

Jeremy Dummler
Wauconda, IL



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: RPM Chicagoland Photos

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks for sharing Jeremy, Looks like a well attended show.
Fenton

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 2:23 PM Jeremy Dummler <jkdummler@...> wrote:
Greetings,

Here is a link to my photo gallery from this weekend's RPM Chicagoland: 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/m6w5uzssH2WUihhq9

And... some video I shot at the show as well:

https://youtu.be/U8mhe5370MQ


Enjoy!

Jeremy Dummler
Wauconda, IL



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


RPM Chicagoland Photos

Jeremy Dummler
 

Greetings,

Here is a link to my photo gallery from this weekend's RPM Chicagoland: 

https://photos.app.goo.gl/m6w5uzssH2WUihhq9

And... some video I shot at the show as well:

https://youtu.be/U8mhe5370MQ


Enjoy!

Jeremy Dummler
Wauconda, IL


Re: GN Spokane Hillyard Yard Photo

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Bob, et al.,
 
I’ve studying the 1946 GN Hillyard yard on and off since the link was posted several days ago.  There are two odd looking (to me anyway) cars, the first at the left end of the sixth string of cars from the camera, and the second just to the left of the first on the next track back. 
 
The first car is a single sheathed boxcar with its door open.  It is similar to a USRA boxcar, but it has on four diagonal braces rather than the usual eight diagonal braces.
 
The second car looks like a boxcar with what appear to be four windows cut into the side, and perhaps no roof (a coke car maybe?).
 
Anyone have any idea what either of these two cars might be?
 
Thanks,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Bob Chaparro
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:31 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] GN Spokane Hillyard Yard Photo
 

With a little photo editing this becomes a nice period photo of a lot of freight cars:

https://media.spokesman.com/photos/2016/10/24/spa68298.JPG_t1170.jpg?e2225bc5c1a75a1036ca3021fecba2b47792abfe

Caption: "Spokane yards of the Great Northern at Hillyard in 1946 showed immediately the effects of a nationwide rail strike. Thousands of empty and idle boxcars, oil tankers, gondolas and cattle cars stood on the tracks shortly after the strike was called."

The photo is from a news article titled "Getting There: Hillyard oil contamination puts roadblock in plans for North Spokane Corridor". Here is a link to the article:

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2016/oct/24/getting-there-hillyard-oil-contamination-puts-road/

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: [Proto-Layouts] Chicagoland Reports?

O Fenton Wells
 

Glad to hear the good news about Tricia Lofton.  Thanks for sharing.
Fenton

On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:21 AM Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:
Very good meeting again under Mike Skibbe's able direction. I was delighted that Tricia Lofton attended and was very cheerful and friendly to everyone. She was recognized at the FOTFC dinner and seemed pleased.
Tony Thompson 


On Oct 21, 2018, at 7:27 AM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

I had a great time. I caught several solid presentations, missed a couple, too. There was a wide assortment of excellent modeling on display. 

It was great to spend time with friends and several Pre-Depression Era modelers. 

I took a fair number of photos but I need to hit the road for home. I hope to upload them to my pBase account as the week rolls along. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Oct 21, 2018, at 3:05 AM, golden1014 via Groups.Io <golden1014@...> wrote:

Hi Gents,

Any reports from Chicagoland yet?  I sure would like to be there...

John Golden



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: [Proto-Layouts] Chicagoland Reports?

Tony Thompson
 

Very good meeting again under Mike Skibbe's able direction. I was delighted that Tricia Lofton attended and was very cheerful and friendly to everyone. She was recognized at the FOTFC dinner and seemed pleased.
Tony Thompson 


On Oct 21, 2018, at 7:27 AM, Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:

I had a great time. I caught several solid presentations, missed a couple, too. There was a wide assortment of excellent modeling on display. 

It was great to spend time with friends and several Pre-Depression Era modelers. 

I took a fair number of photos but I need to hit the road for home. I hope to upload them to my pBase account as the week rolls along. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Oct 21, 2018, at 3:05 AM, golden1014 via Groups.Io <golden1014@...> wrote:

Hi Gents,

Any reports from Chicagoland yet?  I sure would like to be there...

John Golden


Re: [Proto-Layouts] Chicagoland Reports?

Eric Hansmann
 

I had a great time. I caught several solid presentations, missed a couple, too. There was a wide assortment of excellent modeling on display. 

It was great to spend time with friends and several Pre-Depression Era modelers. 

I took a fair number of photos but I need to hit the road for home. I hope to upload them to my pBase account as the week rolls along. 


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

On Oct 21, 2018, at 3:05 AM, golden1014 via Groups.Io <golden1014@...> wrote:

Hi Gents,

Any reports from Chicagoland yet?  I sure would like to be there...

John Golden


Re: Weathering of Tank Cars in the Transition ...

Douglas Harding
 

Jim I would agree with Steve. The creation of OSHA and the Clean Air Act brought about major changes in industry, causing some to “Clean Up Their Act”, ie prevent spills, esp those of hazardous material. So tighter control on connections, collection pans for fluids and hoses for fumes, and many more changes. I suspect you will find few tank cars after the mid 70s showing spillage weathering. It still happened but far less often, and I suspect most industry did quick clean up to avoid any appearance of violating new laws and regulations.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of steve_wintner via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 6:56 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Weathering of Tank Cars in the Transition ...

 

Jim, I'm specylating here, but the clean water act was passed in 1972, and OSHA was created in 1970. I bet a lot of industries had to become more spill sensitive in the following decade. 

Spilled product is a product you can't sell. So there was always some motivation to avoid it...

Have fun
Steve


Re: GN Spokane Hillyard Yard Photo

Doug Paasch
 

That white streak has me puzzled, too.  And if you blow up the picture, down at the bottom of the white streak is a blob of something that looks like a naked chicken.  Something oozing out of the car?  You can see where the naked chicken looks like some kind of goo and appears to be on the sill and stretches down and touches the ground.  Weird.

Doug Paasch


Re: Weathering of Tank Cars in the Transition ...

steve_wintner
 

Jim, I'm specylating here, but the clean water act was passed in 1972, and OSHA was created in 1970. I bet a lot of industries had to become more spill sensitive in the following decade. 

Spilled product is a product you can't sell. So there was always some motivation to avoid it...

Have fun
Steve

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