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Re: Burning Car

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Mike and List members,
 
If I had to guess, I would say it USED to be a MILW composite gon.
 
Claus Schlund
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:38 AM
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Burning Car

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12296332025/in/photostream/

Interesting series of photos of a car on fire.

Mike Turner

MP-Z35






Re: Burning Car

Andy Laurent
 

Cinder car set out on a siding to be shoveled out for roadway stabilization?  The load was still hot and caught the car's wood interior on fire? There appears to be evidence of loose cinders between the main and siding that could have been shoveled out...

Andy
Iowa


Re: Burning Car

Bill Welch
 

Go back 7-8 slides to see and interesting patch job on a C&O gondola

Bill Welch


Re: Burning Car

Richard Townsend
 

A model of a burned out gondola like that would be cool.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: mike turner <yardcoolie1968@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2018 8:38 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Burning Car

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12296332025/in/photostream/

Interesting series of photos of a car on fire.

Mike Turner

MP-Z35






Re: Cleaning Boxcar Interiors

Richard Townsend
 

No one would believe you if you modeled one of those vacuums.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro <chiefbobbb@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Nov 27, 2018 8:41 am
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Cleaning Boxcar Interiors

Circa 1960 photos from the Hagley Digital Archives.
It appears neither car is on the expected clean-out track, that is, a track with an elevated rail to allow debris to slide out of the car.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Looking for decals for 7' 8" Mather boxcar

Chuck Cover
 

Hi,

 

I am looking for decals for a Sunshine 7’ 8” Mather boxcar kit.  I would like to find,  in order of preference, PH&D, C&EI, or C&IM.  Does anyone have an extra set or can anyone suggest a source.  Thanks

 

Chuck Cover

Santa Fe, NM


Looking foe decals for 7' 8" Mather boxcar Sunshine kit

Chuck Cover
 

I have a Sunshine Port Huron and Detroit 7'8" Mather boxcar kit.  The kit came with MRS decals rather than PH&D.  Does anyone have a set of PH&D, C&EI or C&IM decals that they are will to sell of trade for the MRS decals?  Thanks

Chuck Cover
Santa Fe, NM


Cleaning Boxcar Interiors

Bob Chaparro
 

Circa 1960 photos from the Hagley Digital Archives.

http://digital.hagley.org/PRR_22173?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=1436ce8ab65b17dd9f25&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=32&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=19

http://digital.hagley.org/PRR_22169?solr_nav%5Bid%5D=87ae45d5522ad37765e0&solr_nav%5Bpage%5D=43&solr_nav%5Boffset%5D=10

It appears neither car is on the expected clean-out track, that is, a track with an elevated rail to allow debris to slide out of the car.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Burning Car

mike turner
 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/barrigerlibrary/12296332025/in/photostream/

Interesting series of photos of a car on fire.

Mike Turner

MP-Z35


Miller Lube Pads Applied To Journal

Bob Chaparro
 


Re: Boxcar With Missing Doors

Alex Huff
 

Raw sugar (brown) from southern Louisiana sugar mills was shipped in tired 40' boxcars to refineries in New Orleans to be reprocessed into white sugar.   Loaded in both ends, the doors were often left open or missing.  Switchmen tended to avoid being close to the cars as they attracted bees.  Many were stuck in liquefied sugar in the doorways.  I saw this in the early '70s.     


Re: Two Questions About Paint Primers

Craig Zeni
 

On Nov 24, 2018, at 8:43 PM, main@RealSTMFC.groups.io wrote:


2a. Re: Two Questions About Paint Primers
From: Benjamin Hom <b.hom@att.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 11:37:57 EST

RJ Dial wrote:
"I don't mate the trucks up until the end (other than when I install the coupler boxes to make sure of height alignment)."
Seems like a backwards approach. I work out weight, coupler, and truck mounting early in assembly as there's less impact on the model at that point than later trying to re-engineer a model that's almost finished. I then take off the trucks and (as needed) the couplers and reinstall them later.
Precisely what I do...I build the basic body with no details then work out the 'mechanical' parts of the trucks and couplers. I try very hard to not seal the couplers in draft gear but to make them removable or to use the Kadee draft gear outright. For painting I will use 'shop trucks' or some other way of supporting the model. I do like the model supports I've seen in this thread too. But getting the trucks and couplers worked out before detailing is essential in my methodologies.


Craig Zeni
Cary NC


Re: Vertical brake "housings" on Mather cars

Gene Green <genegreen1942@...>
 

Bud,
I think we need to see the photo to answer your question.
Gene Green


Re: Vertical brake "housings" on Mather cars

Bill Welch
 

The budget minded Mather Company dod in fact use bent metal rods to form their SILL STEPS. The only stirrups I know of in transportation are on horse saddles.

The Klasing handbrake was geared and that is the mechanism you are seeing. There have been a few articles about the Mather cars in the modeling press thru the years.

Bill Welch


Re: Naval Ammunition Boxes

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Seth,

Yes, these are definitely the PS1s that were later marked DODX. When this happened, I don't know. My 1958 ORER still has these cars listed under USNX. A very interesting photo. Thank you.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff  🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

On 11/27/18 4:45 AM, Seth Lakin via Groups.Io wrote:
Not a builders photo, but a photo at the builder. 

https://flic.kr/p/jJBqLk

A number of cars line up on the delivery track at Pullman’s Michigan City Indiana plant taken from a train on Monon’s Michigan City Branch. Note the photo is reversed. From the John W Barriger III National Railroad Library. 

Seth Lakin 
Michigan City IN


Re: Naval Ammunition Boxes

Seth Lakin
 

Not a builders photo, but a photo at the builder. 

https://flic.kr/p/jJBqLk

A number of cars line up on the delivery track at Pullman’s Michigan City Indiana plant taken from a train on Monon’s Michigan City Branch. Note the photo is reversed. From the John W Barriger III National Railroad Library. 

Seth Lakin 
Michigan City IN


Vertical brake "housings" on Mather cars

Bud Rindfleisch
 

Hello, 
    Am collecting information on a possible modeling project of a Mather Patent 40' single sheathed boxcar in S scale. A friend sent me pics which show the bulky looking vertical brake wheel housing. Does this contain a ratcheting mechanism for the shaft? I'm sure nothing like this exists in 1:64th and would have to be represented by shaped styrene. I also noticed the round rather than flat stirrups steps.
     Bud Rindfleisch


Re: Dental tool or “picks”

Matt Goodman
 

Hi Lester and Dan.

Lester, you have an impressive selection of picks!  I recall the dentist suggestion many years ago, which finally led to me asking my dentist for tools in 2008.  He obliged, but since then he has declined - apparently he now returns used tools to the manufacturer for credit towards new ones. Presumably, they are then recycled, refurbished or (who knows) destroyed.

However, out of that first set of four, I came to find a good for one that I use as a carver/scraper. As Dan stated, they work very well on soft material - the grind creates a perfect chip. Rather than describe the shape, I’ve attached two photos, the second a very close crop of the edge. The model I’m using it on is a Sylvan Models semi-trailer - my first resin build that will service my steam-era strawboard factory.

Nice idea on the load-pick - one of the others is a candidate for that.

Matt Goodman


On Nov 26, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Daniel A. Mitchell <danmitch@...> wrote:

If you’re on good terms with your dentist, you might get some used ones for free. Many are double-ended. When one end breaks or gets badly worn the dentist may scrap it.

Better than the picks are the little chisels. These come in various sizes and with straight and bent shanks …all are useful. They’re similar to the ones Micro-Mark sells, but of better quality. They carve plastic with ease, and even work on softer metals.

Dan MItchell
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On Nov 26, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:

Lester 

That’s an interesting article I have built the Speedwitch NP flat and have another one to build.
I will start looking for dental picks a good idea.

Paul Doggett England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 26 Nov 2018, at 14:59, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:

I use dental tools or “picks” to help build every freight car I do.  And, a dental pick can be made into a removable load tool you see in the attached photo.  The photos and writeup of various types and ways I use them when building a freight car are on my blog I started to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following:

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Re: T&P Single Sheathed Boxcar 30570

Scott
 


 Pretty sure there is a photo of the original car in one of Teds books,  The Steam Era Reference series for boxcars and auto cars.  I can look later tonight.

Scott McDonald


Re: Reefers for frozen fish.

Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
 

Interesting topic, with a lot of arms and legs!

In 1912 the Milwaukee built in its shops a number of NEW wood low-slung end-bunker ice express reefers for its new Pacific Extension, and they were specifically marked “For Fish Service Only”, and they were assigned to the Chicago, Milwaukee & Puget Sound. Some had bunkers only at one end.

These may well have been the very first (or nearly-so) express reefers of the classic type with passenger trucks, steam lines, etc. That the fish did not contaminate them too much is demonstrated in the Asahel Curtis photos showing the new electrics not too many years hence pulling a long string of them full of silk! They lasted into the ‘30s and some into the ‘40s (or so) in milk and other express service. Notably, one was a regular on the mixed train between Sioux City, IA, Mitchell, and Aberdeen, SD for which some photos exist. Photos are otherwise *rare*. The relatively high pitch of the roof and the high level hatch stands are obvious when -unintentionaly- they were included in builders photos of the Milwaukee’s 1934 HIAWATHA coaches. I have noted one -just one- photo of one of cars out on the main line toward the end of steam, trailing a F6a 4-6-4 pulling the all-stops Twin Cities-Chicago day train.

Plans are relatively easy to obtain inasmuch as AC Kalmbach must have fallen in love with them. He made certain car plans were included in almost all of his wonderful (then and ….now) Car and Locomotive Cyclopedias of the ‘40s.

Quite a few photos of the much later Milwaukee’s Olympian and Olympian Hiawatha show a wood NP express reefer at the very head end -always NP, and never Milwaukee.- presumably fish. This must have been a regular shipment, and I speculate that it may well have originated in Hoquiam. The Milwaukee used to also go to Hoquiam, but if memory serves, it was at least on trackage rights, perhaps the NP?

The Milwaukee also shipped to Chicago, New York, Boston and Philadelphia tanked LIVE fish (harvested carp for Kosher use) in baggage cars with attendants from Lansing, Iowa, and Madison, WI in both its own cars, and others (notably B&O and NYC). It also shipped live carp (iced down as REA shipments to a very low metabolic state) on racks from Lansing to Denver, CO. I have heard similar live shipments originated on the CNW.

The comment about CN’s experiments with their 8 hatch cars for fresh fish shipment brings up the possibility, or at least a thread of one, that they might have been thinking of shipping the products of the prolific Manitoba lakes Walleye fishery to the US midwest cities where these fish were then and still now a delicacy.

It would seem that none of this would have involved frozen fish in any manner.


Denny.


Denny S. Anspach, MD
Sacramento, CA 95864

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