Johannes,

A couple of pieces of advice. One, instead of us guessing your period, it might be helpful if you include that information in your post. I know you have previously, but some of us cannot remember what we had for lunch today ;)  Second, you are, of course, free to model what you want, and while many of us feel free to comment extensively here, I would never walk into your layout room and say Johannes, that B&M car isn't correct for your period! but I'll think it… and if you ask me what I think, I will tell yyou…  Now, if you feel a little being a bit of a trrickster and harnessing your inner Loki, you can, as I do, include a few things that are NOT period correct and then ask viewers to spot the incorrect item (kind of a model railroad which of these does not belong game).

Regards

Bruce F. Smith           

On Nov 29, 2018, at 11:34 AM, vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> wrote:

Tim, Peter,
 
many thanks for your help. GREAT photos! Unfortunately 1955 is a little late for my projects, but that paint scheme is really nice and looks beautyful within a freight train of mostly brown or fcr cars. Hmmmm, to buy or not to buy - this is the question (again...).
 
Many greetings
 
Johannes
 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. November 2018 um 18:04 Uhr
Von: "Tim O'Connor" <timboconnor@... >
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] When did B&M start with blue/ black paint scheme?

There is a photo of a freshly painted B&M 40' 1937 AAR box car in original
"minuteman" lettering with a shop stencil of 12-1955.

In June 1956 (perhaps earlier) the B&M was receiving blue & black 50 foot
PS-1 box cars from Pullman Standard. In 1957 they followed up with 40 foot
PS-1's with blue doors and a black right hand side panel.

Tim

 

Patrick B. McGinnis controlled the B&M about April 1955 and left the New Haven.  Herbert Matter designed both New Haven and B&M schemes. I do not know what B&M P&L drawings may say on dates for the box cars, but I believe the earliest the Blue and Black scheme could be in service is late 1955 to early 1956. NH P&L diagrams were still being developed for equipment through 1956.  Point being, just because there is new leadership doesn’t mean paint schemes are always the he first thing to change…

 

Peter Ness
 

 

when did B&M start to paint box cars blue with black doors? I am interested in a 1937 AAR 40' box car in that paint but need to know the earliest date possible to use it.
 

Many thanks
 

Johannes
 

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

----- Original Message -----

From: Jim Gates via Groups.Io

To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2018 4:51 PM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Transformer Load

If you try to download it from that site they want a "donation", but if you copy the caption, click on the link https://catalog.archives.gov/, and search for the caption you will find two photos.  The second search result was this photo.  The first is a closer shot that does give some more detail.  From this I could verify that it is SP 4136x.  This photo also has two ATSF Fe cars and shows the second floor of a Santa Fe freight house.  I would guess Berkley or Oakland.

Jim Gates

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On Sat, 12/8/18, Bob Chaparro <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

 Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Transformer Load
 To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
 Date: Saturday, December 8, 2018, 3:00 PM
 
 Tarped transformer on a flat car (Southern Pacific?):
 https://picryl.com/media/interphase-transformer-from-westinghouse-loaded-on-train-flat-car-photograph-415445
 Click on the photo to enlarge it and then scroll to enlarge it further.
 Caption: "Interphase transformer from Westinghouse, loaded on train flat car. Photograph taken January 24,
 1950."
 Good detail of how the rods securing the load are routed through the stake pockets and held in place. These stake pockets
 appear to be different from the others.
 Bob Chaparro
 Hemet, CA

On Dec 8, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Rod Miller <rod@...> wrote:

Is it not very bad practice to place a heavy load at
one end of a car instead of centering it? Since the scene
may be a bad order track, improper positioning of the load
could be the cause for the car being there.

Of course there may have been a second transformer at
the other end of the car, but there is no evidence
(dunnage) that one had been there and was unloaded recently.

There must be a good explanation since it is difficult to
understand why that load was allowed to leave the factory.

--
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On Dec 8, 2018, at 3:49 PM, Tim O'Connor <@timboconnor> wrote:

Jim

Most web sites that try to "copy protect" images are actively deceiving their
clients or deceiving themselves. In any case the general rule is: if you can SEE
a full size image on your screen, then it can be downloaded intact. Some browsers
make this a lot easier than others. I use Firefox, and it's very easy.

Tim O'

If you try to download it from that site they want a "donation", but if you copy the caption, click on the link https://catalog.archives.gov/, and search for the caption you will find two photos. The second search result was this photo. The first is a closer shot that does give some more detail. From this I could verify that it is SP 4136x. This photo also has two ATSF Fe cars and shows the second floor of a Santa Fe freight house. I would guess Berkley or Oakland.

Jim Gates

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On Sat, 12/8/18, Bob Chaparro <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

Subject: [RealSTMFC] Photo: Transformer Load
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Date: Saturday, December 8, 2018, 3:00 PM

Tarped transformer on a flat car (Southern Pacific?):
https://picryl.com/media/interphase-transformer-from-westinghouse-loaded-on-train-flat-car-photograph-415445
Click on the photo to enlarge it and then scroll to enlarge it further.
Caption: "Interphase transformer from Westinghouse, loaded on train flat car. Photograph taken January 24,
1950."
Good detail of how the rods securing the load are routed through the stake pockets and held in place. These stake pockets
appear to be different from the others.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*



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