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Re: Staley Tank Car question and modeling advice
brianleppert@att.net
In our Files section are the pages of an AC&F brochure for their Type 8 tank car. Listing for pages start at the bottom of page 7 in Files.
Brian Leppert Carson City, NV
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Re: DODX Tank Car, Another View
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Tim
Thanks for posting the photo. Those PAs are nice too. Coming back to my second photo, the end of one of what appears to be a General American car is to the left of the AC&F car. Note the two-level corner steps and the lack of a short sill above the trucks. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: deliver something other than livestock
Greetings,
In compiling loading records on the Georgia Railroad, I have found replacement car wheels, axles, and coupler castings delivered to the Georgia's car shops in cattle cars, and shipments out of local industry of industrial pump castings, sewer lids, brick, tile, clay pipe, and cotton (cotton, either very early on, or after diesels).
Connecting roads (Southern, Charleston & Western Carolina, Georgia & Florida, Central of Georgia) also used cattle cars at least once for produce baskets and crates, watermelons, pumpkins, and unnoted produce in baskets.
Louie B. Hydrick Associate Broker RE/MAX Partners 4316 Washington Road Evans GA 30809-3957 706-832-6263 Mobile 706-922-7355 Office 706-922-7356 Fax 706-922-7368 Direct GA License: 207874 SC License: 14865 Or visit me on the web at: www.csrahomesandland.com or www.louiebhydrick.remax-georgia.com
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Re: deliver something other than livestock
Steve SANDIFER
Santa Fe did the same, lining the cars with cardboard or plywood. In later years, some were lined with plywood and repainted so that the car was totally mineral brown and a “G” added to the car number. You could build a resin kit this way and not fool will sanding the flashing away.
J. Stephen Sandifer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Andy Carlson
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 11:32 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] deliver something other than livestock
Clark, such as this Q car? -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Monday, January 21, 2019, 9:19:17 AM PST, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
They would line the cars with plywood and haul grain in them. Have photos.
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World War II Era Gondolas from Tangent Scale Models!
Tangent Scale Models
Tangent Scale Models is pleased to announce the availability today of our latest run of Bethlehem 52’6” 70-Ton Gondolas in HO scale. Produced from 1937 until 1957, Bethlehem Steel Company produced over 6,000 of these Gondolas at its Johnstown PA plant and supplied parts to other builders to build an additional 3,000+ cars. These gondolas saw service across the steam, steam-transition, and diesel-eras. These cars could be loaded with steel products, automotive frames, bulk material and scrap metal, just to name a few, and served customers across the USA and Canada. The prototypes were built with drop ends and equipped with various options per the buyer’s specifications.
The Tangent Scale Models Bethlehem 52’6” 70-Ton Gondola is a distinctive finescale replica that includes highly accurate lettering, “true to life” colors, and “near-scale” draft gear. The Tangent model features prototype specific options as well as interior detail, wire grab irons, CNC-machined wheels, Kadee® scale couplers and an intelligent weight design to ensure the model operates as good as it looks.
Baltimore & Ohio (B&O) "Original O-59A 9-1941" is an all new paint scheme for the Tangent Bethlehem 52’6” 70T Gondola. This group of 300 cars was built by BSC and delivered to the B&O in September of 1941. While the B&O rostered over 4,000 of these gondolas total, the paint schemes show interesting variations. By this date, B&O has shifted the Capitol Dome Logo to the right side of the car. Duryea draft gear, riveted steel floors, corrugated ends, and an Ajax brake wheel are all present on the model and correct for this B&O series. Check out the slack adjuster, mounted under the 5th rib on one side of the car – accurate for this specific B&O offering! This car is available in 6 different numbers!
Reading (RDG) "Original 1941" replicates the delivery scheme on Reading’s first 100 car order, built by Bethlehem Steel. BSC and the Reading Company’s own shops would eventually combine to build 2000 cars between 1941 and 1945! Classic white roman lettering stands out on these black GHH class cars. Reading specifications included Duryea draft gear, riveted steel floors, corrugated ends, and Ajax brake wheels. All of these important details are present on the Tangent model and we are pleased to offer 6 new numbers for 2019!
Reading (RDG) "GHH Repaint 1956" is one of our most popular and requested paint schemes for this gondola. 1956 has brought a fresh coat of black paint and the Reading’s new “Speed Lettering” graphics to this 1941-built GHH class workhorse. Slanted and stylized speed lettering with Roman reporting marks and data – this is Classic Reading Company, all the way. We are very happy to offer 6 numbers in this scheme!
Lehigh Valley (LV) "Original 1942" brings some color to this release, exhibiting the Lehigh Valley’s oxide red paint and white lettering. These cars are part of the LV’s second order of 400 gondolas. Take your time – enjoy the nuances of accurate LV lettering: The unevenly spaced LD LMT line, the classic LEHIGH VALLEY typestyle, and black & white diamond. The Lehigh Valley requested conventional draft gear, wood floor, and Dreadnaught ends for these cars, all duplicated with the Tangent offering. This scheme is available in 6 numbers!
Lehigh Valley (LV) "Green 1970" gives the 1970s modelers a splash of beautiful green color! This offering replicates a series of cars refurbished by United State Railway Equipment (USRE) in Washington, Indiana for the Lehigh Valley in February of 1970. This model Is full of little details: a light gray interior wall color matching the prototype, etched-metal Wine tie-downs on the top chord of the car, and stand-off metal ACI plates -- just like the prototype. This car is available in three numbers!
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We studied the prototype to accurately reproduce it with the following features: - Dimensional accuracy – scaled exactly from Bethlehem Steel plans - Highly accurate “true to life” colors - Exact fonts and lettering placement – compare our replicas to the prototype photos on our website! - Detail variations: Side chord tie downs appropriate for each paint scheme - Detail variations: Steel or wood decks inside the car - Detail variations: Duryea or conventional end sill detail appropriate for each paint scheme - Detail variations: End door variations (Dreadnaught and Straight Corrugated) appropriate for each paint scheme - Detail variations: Tack board locations appropriate for each paint scheme - Detail variations: Brake platforms appropriate for each paint scheme - Detail variations: Handbrakes applied to match production specifications (Universal, Ajax, or Equipco handbrakes available as separate parts, too!) - Interior deck sits at the scale height - Interior detail inside the gondola - Wire grab irons and coupler lift bars - Separate air hoses - Weighted to NMRA specs for smooth operation - Genuine Kadee® scale couplers - Tangent 70-ton ASF A-3 Ride-Control trucks - CNC-machined 33” wheels in high quality Tangent Scale Models trucks, with semi-scale wheels available separately - Recommended age 14 years and older.
Do not miss out on this popular Bethlehem 52’-6” 70-Ton Riveted Drop-End Gondola! Pricing for our new RTR gondolas is $38.95 each with quantity discounts for direct purchases from Tangent Scale Models.
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Re: UP Side Door Caboose Survivor
Randy Hees
The surviving depot in Rhyolite is from the Las Vegas & Tonopah. The caboose is from the San Pedro, Los Angeles & Salt Lake (later LA&SL. today Union Pacific) It was built by Pullman in November of 1903, It was retired in 1928 as no 3303, was previously no 4217. It was considered a non-common standard (NCS) class car.
The body was moved to Rhyolite to be used as part of a gas station. Randy Hees
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Re: Staley Tank Car question and modeling advice
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Doug and Steve and List Members,
Doug's photo shows the car AESX 22 closest to the
camera. The Fallen Flags web site has an image of AESX 23 - the next car in
the numeric series of reporting marks.
In any case, AESX 23 looks to be a
dead-on match for AESX 22.
Hope this helps.
Claus Schlund
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California Dispatch Line
Just a little history. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA ++++ California Dispatch Line was incorporated under the laws of California on April 11, 1914, for the purpose, among others, of owning, maintaining, and operating tank and other cars and machinery, apparatus, and appliances in connection with the shipment and transportation of wine or fermented or unfermented liquor, or distilled liquor or liquids of any kind, in tank or other cars. The corporation was incorporated primarily for the purpose of taking over the car business of the California Wine Association, and of thus segregating the association's utility business (Subject to the jurisdiction of the California State Railroad Commission) from its non-utility business. California Dispatch Line purchased eighty-five box cars, insulated box cars, steel tank cars, and insulated steel tank cars from California Wine Association. Forty of these cars are listed on the link below, with car numbers. There is no explanation of the difference between eighty-five cars and forty cars. (Note: As of 1950 California Dispatch Line/CDLX owned 396 tank cars. By 1955 the fleet was sold to General American.) Information from Decisions of the Railroad Commission of the State of California, Volume 5, July 1, 1914 to December 31, 1914. Link: https://tinyurl.com/y7pwrm2e (Scroll up to Page 90.) Tony Thompson wrote about the California Dispatch Line several times on his blog: http://modelingthesp.blogspot.com/search?q=California+Dispatch+Line He noted that the fleet of the California Dispatch Line eventually carried more than just wine.
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Re: UP Side Door Caboose Survivor
David Allen
Forgot to sign -
Dave Allen of Marquette, MI
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Re: UP Side Door Caboose Survivor
David Allen
But the SPLA&SL was built by two - Harriman and Senator William A. Clark. And Clark had a railroad through Rhyolite - the Las Vegas and Tonapah.
And there is a bit of mention in Don Strack's Bool, Cabooses of the Union Pacific, pg 123. Class NCS (Non-Common Standard) caboose LA&SL 3303 was built by Pullman in 1903 (previous number 4217) and was retired in 1928.
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Re: Riveting Thoughts
al_brown03
I like Archers, even for small groups. The trick to getting just a few to stay put, I find, is to cut them from the sheet with a little extra film. I use half-strength Solvaset to set them, and then gloss-coat the car before doing anything else.
Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.
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Re: DODX Tank Car, Another View
In addition to the cars built by ACF, there were additional cars of exactly the same type built by General American. (attached) Tim
I just turned up another photo of the same car which more clearly shows the details, including the car number (DODX 12100). This car is from series (DODX 11635-12374) that Richard Hendrickson cited as the prototype in his April 1996 RMJ article "Fifties-Era Welded Tank Cars from Red Caboose HO & O Scale Models". --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Riveting Thoughts
Tony Thompson
Tim O'Connor wrote:
Thanks, Tim. Tony Thompson
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Re: Riveting Thoughts
Tony that's an excellent, well done project. Years ago I bought a bunch of the old McKean/FR 50 foot double door riveted box cars as fodder for SP box cars, because the McKean/FR riveted 50 foot cars all had the wide panels favored by the SP and the MP. But even with that they need additional rivets from Archer. Another consideration is the door opening. I think the Branchline models have 15 foot openings while I think the McKean/FR models had 16 foot openings. The SP had cars of both sizes. Tim O'
On 1/17/2019 2:03 PM, Tony Thompson
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I will confess to very rarely having harvested rivets (I use the remains of cut-up Athearn gondolas). The Archer rivets are so easy to manage, even for a couple of rivets, that I have used them very extensively. I did a 50-foot auto car (Branchline) on which I removed all the side rivets in order to change the number of side panels. The Archer rivets were a piece of cake and made the project really not difficult. --
Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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deliver something other than livestock
Andy Carlson
Clark, such as this Q car? -Andy Carlson Ojai CA
On Monday, January 21, 2019, 9:19:17 AM PST, Clark Propst <cepropst@q.com> wrote:
They would line the cars with plywood and haul grain in them. Have photos. Clark Propst
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Re: the stock car in the lower right
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: deliver something other than livestock
Clark Propst
They would line the cars with plywood and haul grain in them. Have photos.
Clark Propst
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Re: deliver something other than livestock
Bill Daniels <billinsf@...>
Claus, versatility wasn’t the issue for these cars. It was to utilize otherwise idle rolling stock throughout most of the year when these cars were idle.
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Bill Daniels
On Jan 21, 2019, at 7:39 AM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:
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Re: Staley Tank Car question and modeling advice
This car is an ACF product, like a Type 7 or 8. An approach modeling this car could be from an F&C tank car kit, probably the high walkway car, with the running boards lowered. What isn't clear from the on-line photos is whether the end sill of the kit has the trapezoid shaped end sill. The hand rail across the tank ends are a notable feature. Steve Hile
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Re: What Is It?
direct download link https://photos.smugmug.com/ICRR-8x10-sheet-film-negatives/i-xQrM6Gb/0/5f680551/X3/.jpg
On Jan 19, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Douglas Harding <doug.harding@...>
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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