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Another request for unused parts

mopacfirst
 

Turns out a lot of people need parts that are just lying in somebody else's inventory.

Now I'd like to request, if anybody has excess Branchline running boards for 40' cars, I'd like some.

offlist at mopacfirst at gmail dot com.

Ron Merrick


Re: GM&O 4670

Benjamin Scanlon
 

Hi, is it though, Tim? 

6470 (sorry for wrong number in title of email) looks to have 4-4 ends, the 20188 has 4-5.

Also if you count the horizontal corrugations on the door, 6470 has 16 and 20188 has 18.

Further, look at where the diagonal brace ends on the car end, on the two cars.

I am wondering if 20188 may be a composite sided version of a 1937 AAR? 
--
Ben Scanlon
Tottenham, England


Re: Alexander scale models

Nolan Hinshaw
 

On Jan 28, 2019, at 9:17 AM, Daniel A. Mitchell wrote:

Models of all these are available in 1/48 scale, but none in HO.
I had a Roco Minimovers[0] model of what I remember to be a Letourneau scraper[1], possibly a Tournapull-with-Carryall. Unfortunately Deep Storage™ is difficult of access for the nonce or I'd capture a pic and post it.

[0] 1:87, plastic

[1] new-rons turned into old-rons?
--
"I think we are pole vaulting over mouse manure here."
Stolen from a private mailing list


Re: Bob's Photos at the Amherst Train Show

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Peter,
 
Same here, curious.  Even more curious, I received at least two other long delayed RealSTMFC messages this morning, the earliest of which had a 01-16-19 date on it.  That’s almost two weeks!
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Peter Ness
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:37 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Bob's Photos at the Amherst Train Show
 

Curious, the date stamp on the email I rec’d from the original sender was 24 Jan., which would have been before Springfield, yet it arrived in my inbox (as with others, it appears) today.

 

Peter Ness

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:26 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Bob's Photos at the Amherst Train Show

 

Yes. Someone’s gonna be in for a shock.

Brian J. Carlson


On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Richard McQuade wrote:

"Will be at the Amherst Train Show this weekend and hoping that somebody here can tell me what hours Bob's Photos keeps on Friday and Saturday now that he is in the hotel."

 

Wasn't this LAST weekend?

 

 

Ben Hom


Re: Bob's Photos at the Amherst Train Show

Richard McQuade
 

I posted on Jan 24. Amherst was last weekend. I do not know why this was finally put up now.
Richard McQuade


Re: Bob's Photos at the Amherst Train Show

Peter Ness
 

Curious, the date stamp on the email I rec’d from the original sender was 24 Jan., which would have been before Springfield, yet it arrived in my inbox (as with others, it appears) today.

 

Peter Ness

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Carlson via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:26 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Bob's Photos at the Amherst Train Show

 

Yes. Someone’s gonna be in for a shock. 

Brian J. Carlson 


On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Richard McQuade wrote:

"Will be at the Amherst Train Show this weekend and hoping that somebody here can tell me what hours Bob's Photos keeps on Friday and Saturday now that he is in the hotel."

 

Wasn't this LAST weekend?

 

 

Ben Hom


Re: Bob's Photos at the Amherst Train Show

Brian Carlson
 

Yes. Someone’s gonna be in for a shock. 

Brian J. Carlson 

On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:42 PM, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Richard McQuade wrote:
"Will be at the Amherst Train Show this weekend and hoping that somebody here can tell me what hours Bob's Photos keeps on Friday and Saturday now that he is in the hotel."

Wasn't this LAST weekend?


Ben Hom


Re: GM&O 4670

Tim O'Connor
 


Here's another ex-GM&N box car of the same type.

Tim O'Connor




Ben,
This car is from GM&O 6400-6549 re-marked in 1940 from GM&N 6400-6549. Car #6740 in the photo was the last of the series listed in the ORER: listed solo in 4-1971 and gone by 1-1973 just after the GM&O was merged into the IC to form ICG. The original GM&N series was built 10-1934 AC&F, St Louis as Lot 1347, a modified  ARA 1932.design: Very late to be building standard gauge single-sheathed cars, but not the last for US service. That honor seems to go to SL-SF 152606-152752, 5 cars, built by SL-SF in 1939 or CB&Q 28000-28599, 600 cars. built  by CB&Q 1938-1939. Our friends up north built narrow gauge single sheathed cars for Newfoundland service as late as 1957.

IL IW IH CUFT
40-6 8-9 9-4 3312
GM&N-GM&O 6400-6549

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 4:55 AM Benjamin Scanlon via Groups.Io <benjaminscanlon=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I seem to recall (vaguely) the GM&O had an 'equivalent' of the 1932 AAR box, but composite sided. Wondering if this car would be one ? 

https://www.lakestatesarchive.org/Ed-Wilkommen-Collection/Freight-Cars/i-r3CZRHM/A
--
Ben Scanlon
Tottenham, England



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Detroit Toledo & Shoreline 40' boxcar

Craig Wilson
 

Chuck Geletzke (dtslman@...) is your best contact for all things DTSL.  I recall that there very very yellow boxcars and they had special assignments - but Chuck would know for sure.

Craig Wilson


Re: Bob's Photos at the Amherst Train Show

Benjamin Hom
 

Richard McQuade wrote:
"Will be at the Amherst Train Show this weekend and hoping that somebody here can tell me what hours Bob's Photos keeps on Friday and Saturday now that he is in the hotel."

Wasn't this LAST weekend?


Ben Hom


Re: Question on D&H heralds

Ted Culotta
 

There were at least two versions of the Anthracite round emblem... one with serifs and one without. How do I know? I discovered it after I had completed, or so I thought, artwork for Pierre’s box cars! It was back to the drawing board, literally....


Re: Rust Belt Boxcars Cocoa Beach Handout

James Babcock
 

Thanks for Sharing
Jim

On ‎Sunday‎, ‎January‎ ‎20‎, ‎2019‎ ‎01‎:‎26‎:‎23‎ ‎PM‎ ‎EST, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:


​The one that really got my attention was that nearly half the D&H boxcar fleet in 1950 was still 36' cars!


Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, Al


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2019 9:57 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rust Belt Boxcars Cocoa Beach Handout
 
Brian

really excellent analysis of box car fleets... lots of food for thought in here. :-)

Tim O'Connor




On 1/19/2019 10:24 PM, Brian Carlson via Groups.Io wrote:

It was great to see everyone at Cocoa Beach this year. It is currently 15 degrees and snowing in Buffalo. As I mentioned during my clinic, I am sharing my handout here.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rscctah7pt73urw/AADoQaw_kr2KdNSftQcKb6yba?dl=0

 

The shared link should take everyone to a dropbox folder with 2 files, a PDF of my Presentation without the Photos, and a Excel spreadsheet containing the data I have compiled over the past 10-12 years.  I didn’t edit the spreadsheet so there are some tabs that contain information on the rolling stock I own or want, don’t judge me, lol.   The Spreadsheet contains original data from Tim Gilbert and additional railroad data I have added from the 1957 and some 1950 ORER data.

 

I enjoyed giving the clinic and I received many compliments on it.  Therefore, I volunteered to give it at RPM East in March. Therefore, I have set the dropbox link to expire in a month, and then I will update the presentation for RPM East.  Any questions, you can ask on list or directly at prrk41361_AT_yahoo_DOT_com

 

If you weren’t at Cocoa the abstract of my clinic can be found here http://prototyperails.com/PDF/Abstracts_rev04_2019.pdf

 

Brian J. Carlson, P.E.

Cheektowaga NY


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Ron Merrill

dave w
 

In IO-Groups 'realstmfc' web site-
Select reply to a message:
Type reply/ query in main panel.
On RHS below box is a button- Private- select that and your message goes to actual registered member address.
Hope this helps,
regards dave


Detroit Toledo & Shoreline 40' boxcar

Brad Andonian
 

Fellas,
I am seeking any available info on their 40' steel boxcars.    Car number 3008 exists in the yellow repaint; but I cannot read the data.    If anyone can offer more guidance, I would be grateful.
Brad


Bob's Photos at the Amherst Train Show

Richard McQuade
 

Will be at the Amherst Train Show this weekend and hoping that somebody here can tell me what hours Bob's Photos keeps on Friday and Saturday now that he is in the hotel. 
Thanks.
Richard


Re: Modeling a Lever Hand Brake

Richard Bale <Rhbale@...>
 

This appears to be a model 5790-A pump-action hand brake with a stirrup-grip handle from the Universal Railway Devices Company. It was also available with a straight handle.

Richard Bale

Oceanside CA


In a message dated 1/21/2019 7:52:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, timboconnor@... writes:


Sunshine offered this lever hand brake in their Greenville gondola kits, and probably with other kits too.
And Proto 2000 offered a version with their Greenville gondolas.


On 1/20/2019 9:58 PM, Bruce Griffin via Groups.Io wrote:
Friends,

Can anyone point me to an HO scale detail part to comes close to this brake lever type?  This is from a B&O O-48 Gondola that started life on the BR&P. Also not sure about the true name of this type of handle for the brake mechnanism. Thank you.

Best Regards,
Bruce Griffin
Ashland, MD

Attachments:


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: RMC

Douglas Harding
 

I would agree with everything Bill says. Each editor does put their mark on their publication. I worked many years with Bill Schaumburg, he worked hard to recruit authors from other parts of the country, trying to downplay the NE bias many felt RMC had. Again an editor can only publish what is submitted to them. Carstens, unlike Kalmback, did not produce much in-house material. The operation was very dependent upon outside third party writers. But in the last years while owned by Carstens authors were not getting paid by Henry Carstens (Schaumburg had nothing to do with issuing checks). Not getting paid meant articles shopped showing up at RMC’s office, so yes there was very little to pass on to White River. No articles means no magazine. White River started paying authors, but stopped the practice of paying for product reviews. If you look at early issues under Priest you will see his name on a lot of articles and he began recruiting articles from people he knew, those in Kansas City and the Santa Fe community.

 

I’ve also known Steve Priest for some time. Last summer I asked about sending him some articles and he responded he would print anything I sent him. And for what it’s worth Joe Fugate has said the same when I’ve spoken with him. I just haven’t finished writing them.

 

So it’s up to us. If you want to see something in a publication, you need to write it, or find someone who can. And just so you know, and to keep this on freight car focus,  I recently wrote an article on M&StL refrigerator cars, prototype and modeling, that was published in the latest issue (#4 2018) of the North Western Lines, publication of the Chicago & North Western Historical Society.

 

Doug  Harding

www.iowacentralrr.org

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of William Hirt
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 9:09 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RMC

 

RMC has printed on a regular basis freight car drawings again (most beyond the time scope of this group). I know because I made several positive comments to Stephen about this returning to RMC.

As someone who has edited more than a few work and club monthly or quarterly publications, an editor can only print what they have (I can visualize other editor's heads nodding). They can make suggestions to folks about articles they would like to have to print, but that does not always bear fruit. Then there are some people who enjoy writing, figure out what is needed by a publication, and write articles that are regularly published that are based on their interests. The small editorial staffs these days do not have the time to write a lot of articles because they do more than just editorial duties now.

Many of the articles that White River received from Carstens had aged out (new techniques had surpassed what the article discussed/products used or described are no longer available/etc.), so they had to build rapidly a new article collection for the publication to fill the magazine. The next editor will be in better shape than when White River took over in that RMC has built a backlog of current articles that can be published.

Each editor places their own stamp on the article content of a publication, so I would expect some changes when the next editor takes over.

Bill Hirt

On 1/28/2019 7:56 PM, Dave Lawler wrote:

If someone takes over I hope they’ll make it more like the old (Carstens) RMC with more historical articles, scale drawings

and remember that there were railroads East of the Mississippi and also Canada. I just renewed for 2 more years. I hope that’s not lost.

 

 


Mystery Freight Car

Bob Chaparro
 

Mystery Freight Car

This question was asked on The Early Rails group. Anyone know the answer?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

++++

Unknown Refrigerator or Heated Car

Here's another beauty which I found today. This is very strange. It is either an experimental refrigerator or heating car. I do not know. I have never seen anything like this. Maybe someone can answer. I will check a few of the books I have including White's Freight Car to see if there is anything on it.

Levi


Re: RMC

Benjamin Hom
 

Al Westerfield wrote:
"I thought the MP article, in particular, was far longer than warranted."

You haven't sat in one his clincs...
Brian's work is fascinating as he captures details that few others have noted, much less bothered to model.


Ben Hom


Re: RMC

 

I thought the MP article, in particular, was far longer than warranted.   Note that I’m not saying it was bad, only that I thought that the lack of more articles was responsible for the use of more space per article.  When you think about it, the “two guys” discussion and Bob Walker tips are usually responsible for 8-10 pages every issue, there must be a dearth of quality submissions.   It’s clear that RMC wants to have exactly 100 pages per issue, and will pad to accomplish it.

 

This is an editorial decision.  It says nothing about the quality of the content.  I wasn’t complaining, only making an observation based on 40 years of subscribing.  RMC remains my favorite mag. – Al Westerfield

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jerry Michels
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 7:54 AM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] RMC

 

Curios comments from Al.  I take it you read the extensive, multi-part article on the MP U30C?  Seen the excellent drawings by Dr. Muff?  The increased emphasis on electronics?  A couple of years ago there was an extensive set of articles on scratchbuilding a steam locomotive in brass.  Amazingly, their cover photos even show weathered locomotives!

 

Of course there are always ways a magazine can be improved, but all these barbs being slung about no big loss, short articles, padding seem unfounded.I definitely prefer the direction Stephen took the magazine in the last few years since White River bought the company.  The railroad-related magazines published by White River cover an extensive, balanced, and broad-spectrum of interests. 

 

Jerry Michels

 

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