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FS: Broadway Limited ARA 4-Bay Hopper Unlettered 4-Pack

Gene Semon
 

I have one Broadway Limited ARA 4-Bay Hopper Unlettered  4-Pack that has become surplus to my needs.  They are new and in their original packaging.
$95.00 plus $10.00 for shipping.
Gene Semon


Re: Bad Ladder Day

mopacfirst
 

Ha.  They are indeed on eBay, but as it happens, yesterday morning after I read this post I went to a train show in Stafford (metro Houston) and a fellow lister had a URTX 37000 (Miwaukee) kit that I picked up for five bucks.  This'll give me the impetus to change the Kadee 5 coupler and the non-extended draft gear housing on the one I built when this model was new.

Since I believe there were a thousand cars, more or less, in this series owned by URT for Milwaukee lease, this meets my criteria for being a numerically significant car.  It's amazing how many of these cars were saved.

I'm going to start a new thread.

Ron Merrick


Bad Ladder Day

Walter Cox
 

They show up on ebay from time to time. I picked up a couple recently at reasonable prices.
Walt

In a message dated 2/16/2019 8:24:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, ron.merrick@... writes:

I built one of those Walthers URTX reefers.  It was a good car, for its day, and the Duryea underframe was somewhat well represented, at least the crossbearers, but there was no draft gear extension.  My cure for that was probably not as sophisticated as what I would do now.

If I could lay my hands on a kit, I'd probably now build another one.  The model was later reissued in a fully assembled version, with the usual assortment of fairly bogus paint schemes.

Ron Merrick


Re: Flat car vertical brake wheel staff supports.

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

Well, you may well know better but transferring that knowledge to your typing fingers is another matter entirely.

That said, I may add “nicely done.”

John Hagen

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ken Adams
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2019 5:05 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Flat car vertical brake wheel staff supports.

 

A further correction. I am continuing this topic under "Flat Car HORIZONTAL brake wheel staff supports". In a fit of senior dementia I miss labeled the topic as about vertical brake wheel. I should know better. 


Re: Throwback Thursday: 1989 RPI Railroad Prototype Modelers Meet

Schuyler Larrabee
 

Thanks Ben.  I was trying to remember when that meet was.  I attended along with some friends.

 

Schuyler

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Benjamin Hom
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 5:25 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io; BBFCL <bbfcl@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Thursday: 1989 RPI Railroad Prototype Modelers Meet

 

From the January/February 1990 issue of Prototype Modeler.

 

 

Ben Hom

 


Re: Photo Links From The Oregon Historical Society

Todd Sullivan
 

Did anyone notice that the railroad in the photo with the slab wood loads is what eventually was called Portland Traction Company, and there are two steeple cab locos pulling the cars, at least one of which is lettered for one of the PTC's predecessors?

Todd Sullivan.


Re: Flat car vertical brake wheel staff supports.

Ken Adams
 

A further correction. I am continuing this topic under "Flat Car HORIZONTAL brake wheel staff supports". In a fit of senior dementia I miss labeled the topic as about vertical brake wheel. I should know better. 


Re: Flat car Horizontal brake wheel staff supports.

Ken Adams
 

Sorry to belabor this topic. 

As part of my flatcar handbrake maintenance project I was able to cut the mounting projection back on a Kadee 2021 Equipco handbrake wheel and drill it with a #76 drill bit for remounting on a SPH&TS SP F-70-10 flat car as a replacement for a lost handbrake wheel. Tichy #1103 .020 phosphor bronze wire used for the shaft. I held the wheel in a pair for serrated needle nose pliers and drilled the hole with a twist drill. Then I cut off most of the mounting projection. I attached the wheel to the shaft with Plasti-Zap. 



Tony Thompson's SP Freight Cars volume 3 lists the specialties brake appliance for the F-70-10 as Equipco.

Ken Adams


Re: Flat car Horizontal brake wheel staff supports.

Ken Adams
 

I must apologize to all. A very big oops on my part. 

Gene Green has sent me several drawings of hand brake appliances/specialties and in correct AAR terminology this should be correctly called a horizontal hand brake. 

Ken Adams


Re: Flat car vertical brake wheel staff supports.

Ken Adams
 
Edited

Correction the Tichy part in the picture is the #3005 K brake sprue.  I used this rather than the Tichy #3003 as that part is a single casting rather than a separate top guide and then the lower part where the staff ends and the chain to the brake cylinder starts. 

Exactrail has a very nice representation of the vertical brake wheel mechanism on their 1967 (too late to get it in steam era) 53' 6" GSC flat car. Unfortunately not available as a separate part. This is a photo from their website. 


Ken


Re: Photo Links From The Oregon Historical Society

Craig Wilson
 

I am especially impressed with whomever painted that tree line on the backdrop of the cordwood photo.
Craig Wilson


Re: Photo Links From The Oregon Historical Society

Bill Keene
 

Bruce,

Thanks for the reply.

Whatever the chalk marks are for, one thing is for sure, they are an interesting detail.

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On Feb 15, 2019, at 8:45 PM, Bruce Smith <smithbf@...> wrote:

Bill,

Chalkmarks, as often noted here, are usually indecipherable as to meaning. They belonged to local crews.

Regards,
Bruce Smith



From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Keene via Groups.Io <bill41@...>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 3:13 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photo Links From The Oregon Historical Society
 
Thanks Bob,

Re the cord wood photo: Are the chalk marks on the truck bolster ends some data regarding lubrication? Or perhaps something else?

Re the tank car photo:  Nice billboard in the background advertising the Portland Rose

Cheers,
Bill Keene
Irvine, CA



On Feb 15, 2019, at 11:55 AM, Bob Chaparro <chiefbobbb@...> wrote:

These can be enlarged quite a bit. Just click on the photo.
Derailed Tank Cars:
Car With Cord Wood
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA



Re: Transition era railway operations documentary cartoon

Jim Betz
 


  Yuck, Yuck, Yuck ("Goofy" lmao) ... Thanks for that one!  - Jim


Re: Bad Ladder Day

mopacfirst
 

Aha.  Duryea underframe and all.

I thought these might be the cars covered in RPCyc vol.14, but they're not.  Those in the article were the previous generation, with steel underframes, with or without Duryea cushining, but with wood sheathing on sides and ends.  The cars in these photos have an idiosyncratic extra crossbearer, or a crossbearer two feet or so out of its normal position, to support the triple valve.  On the triple valve side (right), there is an extra sidesill tab.  On the opposite (left) side, the configuration is less clear.  There appears to be another crossbearer on this side also, but no sidesill tab.  It's not clear where the reservoir is in any of these views, but perhaps it's transverse and hung between the normal crossbearer and the extra one.

I don't know of a source of a door like this, especially with those large hinges.

Since the previous General American meat reefers were 37', these cars might be also.  The ORER shows the SRLX cars to be 39'-0" outside length, which would be about right.

Ron Merrick


Re: Transition era railway operations documentary cartoon

Tim O'Connor
 


Dennis, that's exactly how we move train orders at the club because we can't reach over the layout. :-D

Tim

On 2/16/2019 4:35 AM, Dennis Storzek wrote:
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 06:29 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Reflects a surprising amount of common knowledge of railway ops in the steam era...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzwxL6305Q4

:-)
As others have noted. When I toured the Pioneer Zephyr display at Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry, I was surprised to see that cartoon playing as part of the exhibit... something about streamliners and popular culture.

I especially like the operator 'hanging out' orders ... on a clothesline.

Dennis Storzek


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Bad Ladder Day

Tim O'Connor
 


Right. How about this one?

Tim


On 2/15/2019 11:44 PM, Bruce Smith wrote:

But definitely not the car in question 😉

Regards

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL



--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Bad Ladder Day

mopacfirst
 

I built one of those Walthers URTX reefers.  It was a good car, for its day, and the Duryea underframe was somewhat well represented, at least the crossbearers, but there was no draft gear extension.  My cure for that was probably not as sophisticated as what I would do now.

If I could lay my hands on a kit, I'd probably now build another one.  The model was later reissued in a fully assembled version, with the usual assortment of fairly bogus paint schemes.

Ron Merrick


Re: FGEX Hutchins roof

Bill Welch
 

As good fortune would have it I have two photos with reweigh dates of 1935, one with the original board roof and the other with the new Hutchins roof. By 1935 the cars built new by FGE in 1922 would have been in service for 13 years and their double board roofs must have been failing. I think FGE was aggressive with this replacement. It is curious to me that WFE did not replace all of the wood roof on their truss rood cars not did BRE on its TR cars.

Bill Welch


Re: Bad Ladder Day

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Scott,

A similar car is/was sold by Walthers in plastic. In its original . . . uh . . . incarnation, the car had a separate roof and ladders. Good fodder for upgrading. Some of these operated by URTX had Duryea underframes.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 2/15/19 8:41 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Scott

Funny you should say that, since Al Westerfield and Martin Lofton must have produced
100 different reefers that were not any of those! To say nothing of Brian Pate (CP, NP) or
F&C (Canadian brine reefers).

Tim O'Connor



On 2/15/2019 8:24 PM, Scott wrote:
Does not seem to be too much love for reefers outside of SFRD, PFE and FGEX.

Scott McDonald





Re: Transition era railway operations documentary cartoon

Dennis Storzek
 

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 06:29 PM, Tim O'Connor wrote:
Reflects a surprising amount of common knowledge of railway ops in the steam era...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzwxL6305Q4

:-)
As others have noted. When I toured the Pioneer Zephyr display at Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry, I was surprised to see that cartoon playing as part of the exhibit... something about streamliners and popular culture.

I especially like the operator 'hanging out' orders ... on a clothesline.

Dennis Storzek

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