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Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

O Fenton Wells
 

Thanks for posting Eric.  With all this discussion on these cars I dug out some old inventory and will try to do at least one justice.
Fenton

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 9:06 AM Eric Hansmann <eric@...> wrote:
Fred's work on the WP two-and-a-half door kitbash was featured on the Resin Car Works blog a couple of years ago.
http://blog.resincarworks.com/western-pacific-50-foot-automobile-box-car/

Pete Hall also shared an upgrade on the WP cars a couple of months later.
http://blog.resincarworks.com/upgrading-a-western-pacific-50-foot-automobile-box-car/


Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy



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Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Eric Hansmann
 

Fred's work on the WP two-and-a-half door kitbash was featured on the Resin Car Works blog a couple of years ago.
http://blog.resincarworks.com/western-pacific-50-foot-automobile-box-car/

Pete Hall also shared an upgrade on the WP cars a couple of months later.
http://blog.resincarworks.com/upgrading-a-western-pacific-50-foot-automobile-box-car/


Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Palace Poultry Car Color

Tim Meyer
 
Edited

Hi All

I am looking for recommendations on the color of the Palace Poultry car colors.

I contacted Kristin Dummler and she informed me that a person approach her after her RPM presentation last October and mention he has the actual Palace car drawings and specifications. But he has not contacted her to provide the information. 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks

Tim Meyer


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

O Fenton Wells
 

Great modeling and model, Fred, thanks for sharing.
Fenton

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 4:20 AM Fred Jansz <fred@...> wrote:
This is a MDC WP 2.5 door kitbash I did two years ago. WP 19208, converted by WP in 1937. Ran into the 1950's.
See Ted's SEFCRM Vol3 Reefer book, page 14 and you'll find two of these RARE birds in a yard surrounded by gons and ART reefers.
Fred Jansz



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Throwback Tuesday: The Lindberg Line

Benjamin Hom
 

Lindberg ad, Model Railroader, December 1962.


Ben Hom


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

vapeurchapelon
 

Wow! What a beautyful model! Great work!
 
Johannes
 
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This is a MDC WP 2.5 door kitbash I did two years ago. WP 19208, converted by WP in 1937. Ran into the 1950's.
See Ted's SEFCRM Vol3 Reefer book, page 14 and you'll find two of these RARE birds in a yard surrounded by gons and ART reefers.
Fred Jansz


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Fred Jansz
 

This is a MDC WP 2.5 door kitbash I did two years ago. WP 19208, converted by WP in 1937. Ran into the 1950's.
See Ted's SEFCRM Vol3 Reefer book, page 14 and you'll find two of these RARE birds in a yard surrounded by gons and ART reefers.
Fred Jansz


Re: Chrysler Trucks (was Twin Star Cars)

Fred Jansz
 

Garth, first is Will Whittaker I believe, second is from web; WP19507, also on Chrysler trucks.
cheers, Fred Jansz


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Ken Adams
 

Thanks for everybody's input. 

Looks like I am left with a choice of removing and replacing the doors with steel panel doors and building it into a proper WP car or cutting off the fishbelly side frame  extension and creating an MP car. It would be harder to justify an MP car arriving with a lumber load at the Adams Lumber Company in Walnut Creek (no relation but it really existed according to the Sanborn map) about 1950 than a WP loaded car which would have been interchanged to the SP at Antioch for a short destination switching move of 15 miles. I am tailoring my freight fleet around what would actually have been seen on moves on the SP San Ramon branch 1947-54. That means I won't go out and buy everything I like.as I have limited storage in a townhouse/apartment.

Then again I am fascinated by the technological achievement from Yarmouth with those wavy looking sheet metal car sides.  Problem is they will look out of place alongside cars with flat sheet metal sides. Or make the flat sides look toylike in comparison.

I will store the car unmodified and will trade it at the June BAPM if anyone wants it in exchange for a steel door WP 50 foot OB MDC car. Not worth the postage for a long distance swap with an MP fan.

Ken Adams


Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Andy Carlson
 

Also, the MP/T&P cars did not have the lower side sill fishbelly extension that the WP cars had. When I made my own resin WP cars I felt that the lower side sill extension could simply be removed to make an accurate MP car.

-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Monday, February 25, 2019, 1:06:12 PM PST, Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:


It has been a long time since I built my MP and WP models which was soon after the articles appeared in both MM and RMJ and then several years later I built my T&P and Frisco models w/the MDC kits so I am going from memory but the reason I decided to those four roads versions was dictated by the Radial roof on the MDC model. Several other 50-foot SS cars were discussed in the articles but the roof and bracing arrangement on the MDC kit is only correct for MP, WP, SL-SF and T&P. The Frisco model required replacing with "B" end w/a different Dreadnaught end that was kindly furnished by Rocket Express while T&P model required replacing the modeled on Single 8-foot Youngstown door with scratch built Superior doors. These two models are cover in Vol 3 of Speedwitch's Modeling Journal.

Hopefully I am remembering correctly.

Bill Welch
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Scale Model

James L. Jeffery
 

Andy,

As   I recall, over the years I have purchased  an HO kit or two from you. I notice you do  lot of selling on line but am not sure if you are an individual seller or a Hobby shop selling. Anyhow, I would like to spend a few minutes discussing with you a one of a kind scale model which I need to put up for sale and see what your advice might be. Would like to give you a call to discuss but need your Phone#.


Thank you.


Jim Jeffery

Puyallup, WA

253-820-6154 C

360-872-8083 H


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Bill Welch
 

It has been a long time since I built my MP and WP models which was soon after the articles appeared in both MM and RMJ and then several years later I built my T&P and Frisco models w/the MDC kits so I am going from memory but the reason I decided to those four roads versions was dictated by the Radial roof on the MDC model. Several other 50-foot SS cars were discussed in the articles but the roof and bracing arrangement on the MDC kit is only correct for MP, WP, SL-SF and T&P. The Frisco model required replacing with "B" end w/a different Dreadnaught end that was kindly furnished by Rocket Express while T&P model required replacing the modeled on Single 8-foot Youngstown door with scratch built Superior doors. These two models are cover in Vol 3 of Speedwitch's Modeling Journal.

Hopefully I am remembering correctly.

Bill Welch


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Allan Smith
 

There is a photo of 40142 IN Classic Freight Cars Vol 8 P 33.

Al Smith
Sonora CA


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Jeffrey White
 

Ken,

IC 163001-163050 built in 1926 by Pullman in Michigan City renumbered to 40100-40149 in 1942. According to the diagram sheet they had metal bottom door panels, universal handbrakes and metal lat. R.B. supports added then.  According to the 1960 IC equipment list 19 were still in service on 1 Jan 1960.

Unfortunately I don't have a photo. I can send you a copy of the diagram sheet.

Jeff White

Alma, IL

On 2/24/2019 3:40 PM, Ken Adams wrote:

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Tony

I realized that a while ago when I was looking for older 50' SP box cars in SP Freight Cars Volume 4 only to find them in Volume 3.

Still looking for a prototype for the wood door MDC SS 50 foot car.  

ken


Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

O Fenton Wells
 

According to RMJ article in the July 1996 issue by Richard Hendrickson, MP had cars in the 89070-89169 series with Youngstown doors.
Fenton

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 12:41 PM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote:
The MP model I built had the end doors. Regarding dates models I build are always subject to "modeler's license."

Bill Welch



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Re: Throwback Tuesday: MDC 50 ft SS Automobile Boxcars

Bill Welch
 

The MP model I built had the end doors. Regarding dates models I build are always subject to "modeler's license."

Bill Welch


Re: MDT 8000 and NRC 17000 Series Roof Color

Nelson Moyer
 

Given the number of other bits of misinformation in recent Sunshine instructions and PDSs for kits I’ve built, I’ll go with boxcar red. I’m sure Martin went with the best available information at the time, but these were early kits, and I suspect there wasn’t much reliable prototype information available at the time they were produced. I gave up on the 6000 series option because no roof is available, and I didn’t want to invest the time required to scratchbuild one. The series 8000 car is ready for priming, and the 17000 series car is getting brake detail today. As near as I can determine from photos, the 8000 series cars had the major brake components mounted in the space between the center two cross bearers, while the 17000 series had the brake cylinder mounted in the center space and the air reservoir and control valve mounted in the next space back from the center space toward the A end. This latter arrangement is consistent with the MM drawings of NRC 2217 as well as a photo of 17000. Otherwise, the cars were apparently identical. That’s something to watch for, as the instructions show the latter brake component arrangement for both series cars.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of gary laakso
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 7:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] MDT 8000 and NRC 17000 Series Roof Color

 

Nelson, I have not seen any photos or top side DVDs with metallic roofs for these cars.  Roger knows far more than I, so mine will be painted red as built.  I found my 3 kits this week.

 

Gary Laakso

 


On Feb 24, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

Sunshine instructions and PDS state that the subject car’s roofs were painted aluminum color when built, and boxcar red when repainted after WWII. Roger Hinman’s MDT book states that what appeared to be aluminum paint was really photo airbrushing to better show roof detail in builder’s photos. Which is correct?

 

Nelson Moyer

 


FGEX reefer underframe

Eric Hansmann
 

Do you need guidance in building your RPM Chicagoland mini-kit? George Toman shares his techniques installing the underframe and truss rods on the latest Resin Car Works blog post. 

http://blog.resincarworks.com/fgex-mini-kit-underframe-assembly/



Eric Hansmann
RCW web guy


Re: Chrysler Trucks (was Twin Star Cars)

Tony Thompson
 

Are these the trucks:

http://americanscalemodels.com/HO/HO_Detail_Parts/Trucks?product_id=1855
They are certainly one version of the Chrysler design.

Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@signaturepress.com
Publishers of books on railroad history


Re: Modeling Those WLE SS cars w/7-ft doors

BillM
 

Thank you

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: al_brown03
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 5:15 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Modeling Those WLE SS cars w/7-ft doors

 

Hi,

The underframe is from a Tichy USRA SS boxcar kit; the ends were available from Shapeways a few years ago. Sides and roof were scratch-made.

AL B.

 

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