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Re: Unknown Refrigerator at Steamtown
Garth
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It's definitely a DESPATCH built refrigerator car, but I don't know which MDT or possibly NRC series it belonged to. I have photos of other MDT (and NRC) steel reefers but not this one. Back in the 1980's and early 1990's Conrail had several MDT reefers painted this way, all used for company storage at the east end of the huge Selkirk yard. I have photos of them but I've never scanned them. I wonder if that is where this car came from. Do you have the MDT book? Tim O'Connor
On 2/28/2019 7:06 AM, Garth Groff
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: to UP fans: -B-50-25 Express Box - converting "back" to normal box car?
Johannes
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In your era the cars were used exclusively in passenger train services as far as I know. Some cars were repainted in the 1960's with freight service paint (attached). Later the survivors all ended up in company service with 9xxxxx series numbers (as shown in the photo) in both the yellow & gray, and freight colors. Tim O'Connor
On 2/28/2019 11:26 AM, vapeurchapelon wrote:
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*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: Test Message
Hi Steve!
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 5:07 PM Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote:
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Test Message
Please excuse the
band width waste, but I have received zero messages today from any of my groups,
which seems pretty weird. From the web, I can see that there have been
some, today.
Thanks,
Steve
Hile
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Re: to UP fans: -B-50-25 Express Box - converting "back" to normal box car?
Bryian Sones
Johannes, Are you trying to put together a fleet of U.P. boxcars? Regards, Bryian Sones Union Pacific Prototype Modeler Murrieta, CA
On Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:04 PM, vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> wrote: Ed,
many thanks for that link. Yes, all questions have been answered (most important, that the model - unfortunately - won't match my needs.)
Many greetings
Johannes
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2019 um 22:26 Uhr
Von: "Ed Hawkins" <hawk0621@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] to UP fans: -B-50-25 Express Box - converting "back" to normal box car? On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:26 AM, vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> wrote:
I still need more 40' box cars, and I consider purchasing this one: Johannes,
The following link provides history & data on the B-50-25 box cars that began in 1939 as UP 9100-9199. RP CYC Volumes 6 and 8 also provide information & photos. In addition the UPHS has published articles in The Streamliner on UP express box cars.
This data should provide sufficient information to answer all or most of your questions. Suggest coming back with specific questions you may still have after reviewing the link.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins
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Re: to UP fans: -B-50-25 Express Box - converting "back" to normal box car?
vapeurchapelon
Ed,
many thanks for that link. Yes, all questions have been answered (most important, that the model - unfortunately - won't match my needs.)
Many greetings
Johannes
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Februar 2019 um 22:26 Uhr
Von: "Ed Hawkins" <hawk0621@...> An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Betreff: Re: [RealSTMFC] to UP fans: -B-50-25 Express Box - converting "back" to normal box car? On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:26 AM, vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> wrote:
I still need more 40' box cars, and I consider purchasing this one: Johannes,
The following link provides history & data on the B-50-25 box cars that began in 1939 as UP 9100-9199. RP CYC Volumes 6 and 8 also provide information & photos. In addition the UPHS has published articles in The Streamliner on UP express box cars.
This data should provide sufficient information to answer all or most of your questions. Suggest coming back with specific questions you may still have after reviewing the link.
Regards,
Ed Hawkins
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Re: to UP fans: -B-50-25 Express Box - converting "back" to normal box car?
Ed Hawkins
On Feb 28, 2019, at 10:26 AM, vapeurchapelon <j.markwart@...> wrote: I still need more 40' box cars, and I consider purchasing this one: Johannes, The following link provides history & data on the B-50-25 box cars that began in 1939 as UP 9100-9199. RP CYC Volumes 6 and 8 also provide information & photos. In addition the UPHS has published articles in The Streamliner on UP express box cars. This data should provide sufficient information to answer all or most of your questions. Suggest coming back with specific questions you may still have after reviewing the link. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: Fw: [RealSTMFC] ATSF Bx56
charles slater
Scott I still have a couple of those kits on hand, contact me off list for kit numbers and price.
Charlie Slater
Patternmaker
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Scott <repairman87@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 6:33 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: Fw: [RealSTMFC] ATSF Bx56 Can you make the masters again? 😁 I am sure a lot of people would love to have that car.
Scott McDonald
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Throwback Thursday: Varney
Benjamin Hom
Varney ad from the back cover of the February 1959 issue of Model Railroader.
Ben Hom
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to UP fans: -B-50-25 Express Box - converting "back" to normal box car?
vapeurchapelon
Hello friends,
I still need more 40' box cars, and I consider purchasing this one: https://www.brasstrains.com/Classic/Product/Detail/098956/HO-Brass-Model-OMI-1338-UP-Union-Pacific-B-50-25-Express-Boxcar-24152-Unpainted-1984-Run-Ajin Was the prototype always an express box car, or was it a conversion out of an ordinary freight car? If the latter - would it be possible to backdate it with reasonable effort? What exactly makes this an express box car? The two most obvious details I could tell are the steam line and the type of trucks - both easy to remove/ replace. Would it then be just a usual freight car (which class?)? Many thanks and best regards Johannes Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
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Re: Rail Road Progress kits question
jerryglow2
Zoom down to 50% so you cat a whole page, do a screen shot, edit it and past it in your graphics software. I use CorelDraw so I can export all pages of an article as a PDF
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Re: ATSF Bx56
Paul Doggett
Thank you Geogre.
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Paul
On 28 Feb 2019, at 12:34, gtws00 via Groups.Io <gtws00@...> wrote:
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Re: ATSF Bx56
gtws00
Nicely Done Paul.
Should look good all painted. Those doors make for a interesting car George Toman
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Re: H30 in Service
Todd Horton
Wow. I looked at your Facebook page, that is very impressive work you’ve done building those cars from metal. Todd Horton
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On Feb 27, 2019, at 11:22 AM, csxt5555 via Groups.Io <csxt5555@...> wrote:
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Unknown Refrigerator at Steamtown
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends,
I recently scanned up my photos from a circa 2000 visit to Steamtown. Among them is this unmarked refrigerator car. It appears to be of MDT design. Can anybody help me with a positive ID, including (hopefully) a car number? I have been unable to find any references to this car on the Steamtown site or Wikipedia. I hate untidiness in my collection. Thank you in advance. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: ATSF Bx56
Paul Doggett
Thank you guys 😊
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Paul Doggett England 🏴
On 28 Feb 2019, at 02:33, Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:
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Re: D&H Seley hoppers
Allan Smith
The Post War Freight Car Fleet book has photos of D&H Hoppers on Pages 135, but of cars 6851-11600. The notes state that C A Seley designed cars like this for the D&H in 1901. Al Smith Sonora CA
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 07:43:42 PM PST, Allan Smith <smithal9@...> wrote:
Try this photo. It is a dark photo but can be lightened. Al Smith Sonora Ca
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 06:01:17 PM PST, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:
Hello folks, Some help is needed with Delaware & Hudson Seley hopper cars. I hacve three of the O&W Car Shops D&H Seley hoppers all painted and ready to decal with the decals on hand as well. My 1938 and 1947 ORER's indicate that all of these cars belonged to one of two groups, the 1001 - 1151 group or the 1152 - 2250 group. BUT, in looking for a photo to serve as a lettering guide the only one found was on pages #410-#411 or Jim Shaughnessy's D&H book and therein lies the problem. The photo shows on;ly the right half or a car side. With a D&H Challenger pushing the train with this car up the northboud grade to Arrarat Summit it is clearly the era I model but the car number has five digits rather than only four with a number that appears to be #10010! Unfortunately I cannot find any such number group for D&H cars of any tyep in the ORER's I have here. My next ORER is from Jan. 1962 at which time the same two car niber groups are in use for hopper cars but they are now stated to be of steel rather than only having a steel underframe. I am not knowledgeable enough about the D&H to know if the Seley cars were rebuilt with stell and kept the same numbers, which I very much doubt, or whether new cars were purchased and given the same number groups as the Seley cars, which I also doubt. So how does one account for a number in a #10000 series? These cars were also found at one time with two, three and four hopper bays. Could one style be gone by the post war period and the remaining cars assigned to one number gfroup or the other depending upon thre number of hopper bays it had? I have no clue from what has been found to date. Thius any helpo with these issues would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Don Valentine
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Re: D&H Seley hoppers
Allan Smith
Try this photo. It is a dark photo but can be lightened. Al Smith Sonora Ca
On Wednesday, February 27, 2019 06:01:17 PM PST, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:
Hello folks, Some help is needed with Delaware & Hudson Seley hopper cars. I hacve three of the O&W Car Shops D&H Seley hoppers all painted and ready to decal with the decals on hand as well. My 1938 and 1947 ORER's indicate that all of these cars belonged to one of two groups, the 1001 - 1151 group or the 1152 - 2250 group. BUT, in looking for a photo to serve as a lettering guide the only one found was on pages #410-#411 or Jim Shaughnessy's D&H book and therein lies the problem. The photo shows on;ly the right half or a car side. With a D&H Challenger pushing the train with this car up the northboud grade to Arrarat Summit it is clearly the era I model but the car number has five digits rather than only four with a number that appears to be #10010! Unfortunately I cannot find any such number group for D&H cars of any tyep in the ORER's I have here. My next ORER is from Jan. 1962 at which time the same two car niber groups are in use for hopper cars but they are now stated to be of steel rather than only having a steel underframe. I am not knowledgeable enough about the D&H to know if the Seley cars were rebuilt with stell and kept the same numbers, which I very much doubt, or whether new cars were purchased and given the same number groups as the Seley cars, which I also doubt. So how does one account for a number in a #10000 series? These cars were also found at one time with two, three and four hopper bays. Could one style be gone by the post war period and the remaining cars assigned to one number gfroup or the other depending upon thre number of hopper bays it had? I have no clue from what has been found to date. Thius any helpo with these issues would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Don Valentine
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Re: Fw: [RealSTMFC] ATSF Bx56
Scott
Can you make the masters again? 😁 I am sure a lot of people would love to have that car.
Scott McDonald
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D&H Seley hoppers
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
Hello folks, Some help is needed with Delaware & Hudson Seley hopper cars. I hacve three of the O&W Car Shops D&H Seley hoppers all painted and ready to decal with the decals on hand as well. My 1938 and 1947 ORER's indicate that all of these cars belonged to one of two groups, the 1001 - 1151 group or the 1152 - 2250 group. BUT, in looking for a photo to serve as a lettering guide the only one found was on pages #410-#411 or Jim Shaughnessy's D&H book and therein lies the problem. The photo shows on;ly the right half or a car side. With a D&H Challenger pushing the train with this car up the northboud grade to Arrarat Summit it is clearly the era I model but the car number has five digits rather than only four with a number that appears to be #10010! Unfortunately I cannot find any such number group for D&H cars of any tyep in the ORER's I have here. My next ORER is from Jan. 1962 at which time the same two car niber groups are in use for hopper cars but they are now stated to be of steel rather than only having a steel underframe. I am not knowledgeable enough about the D&H to know if the Seley cars were rebuilt with stell and kept the same numbers, which I very much doubt, or whether new cars were purchased and given the same number groups as the Seley cars, which I also doubt. So how does one account for a number in a #10000 series? These cars were also found at one time with two, three and four hopper bays. Could one style be gone by the post war period and the remaining cars assigned to one number gfroup or the other depending upon thre number of hopper bays it had? I have no clue from what has been found to date. Thius any helpo with these issues would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Don Valentine
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