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Re: UP 175288 in 1938 - emigrants
Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
On 3/9/2019 6:31 AM, Paul Krueger
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car was used to ship a carload of emigrants from Mitchell, SD to Enumclaw, WA in March 1938. A boxcar full of people? -- Jon Miller For me time stopped in 1941 Digitrax Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User SPROG User NMRA Life member #2623 Member SFRH&MS
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Re: UP 175288 in 1938 - emigrants
Paul
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I haven't got a clue what that could possibly mean, but I'm more curious about the document itself. I've never seen a report like that. Was this a monthly report generated by a station agent? What would be the purpose of such a report, since each shipment generated its own waybill, and presumably those would all eventually be accounted for? Tim O'
On 3/9/2019 9:31 AM, Paul Krueger
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Operating on Santa Fe's Alma branch
Bill Welch
Wish I could round up a small group from the Tampa area to carpool to Jared's for the weekend.
Bill Welch
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Re: UP 175288 in 1938 - emigrants
Ed Hawkins
On Mar 9, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Paul Krueger <kruegerp12@...> wrote: What kind of car was UP 175288 in 1938? I ran across some documentation (attached) that indicates this car was used to ship a carload of emigrants from Mitchell, SD to Enumclaw, WA in March 1938. Paul, The 7/38 ORER denotes UP 175000-175399 as 40-ton XA auto cars, 50’-3” IL, 10’ IH, 9’-2” IW, staggered doors 9’-11” width, A-end door 1.5’ x 1’, 4626 cu. ft., 389 cars in service. A 1941 UP diagram specifies the cars as railroad class A-40-1, built by Standard Steel Car Co. in 1913, rebuilt in 1928, single-sheathed design with 4 vertical & diagonal exterior braces to left of door & 3 vertical & diagonal braces to right of door. Between the vertical braces nearest the ends were Interior diagonal braces. Other data from the diagram: Inside length - 50’ 3 7/8” Inside height - 10’-0 5/8" Door opening - 9’-11 7/8” clear, 10’-5 5/8” between door posts Superstructure - wood & steel posts & braces outside Underframe - steel riveted (line drawing shows fish-belly center sill) Ends - steel Dreadnaught Roof - Improved Piv. Flexible Side doors - wood with steel frame, Camel fixtures Hand brake - Ajax Trucks - Andrews side frames Wheels - cast iron Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: Operating on Santa Fe's Alma branch
Jerry,
I do no know if you're familiar with Jared's operation, so let me describe it a bit. I'm not sure a video would do it justice. The Alma branch fills Jared's basement with a single level, multiple peninsula layout. Ops sessions consist of 4 operators (engineer, conductor, head end brakeman, rear end brakeman) and one train (technically two trains as the local has a different train number for the return trip. Operations consist of assembling the out bound train at the junction of the branch and the main, which can be a weee bit of a puzzle at times 😉 That can take some time. Then the train ambles off down the branch, where each town is switched. Typical town arrangements have a single, double-ended siding with multiple businesses served, so there is often a lot of shuffling. Cars for Alma are added to the train and those headed back to the other end of the branch are left at the facing point end (trailing point on the return) switch end of the siding for pickup on the return. In Alma, the businesses are switched, and the cars for interchange are dropped, the engine reverses on the wye and the train heads home, switching trailing points on the way. There is additional switching at the end of the branch, prior to tying up the train. It takes around 3 hours or longer for all this action to happen. Although planned for the future, I don't think Jared has added any additional traffic (stock extras), so this is not a layout with any traffic related gaming. Videos would show some of the open Kansas running at track speed (20 mph?), Jared's excellent scenery and structures, and frequent stops to figure out how to switch each town.
I have really enjoyed each ops session I have attended... and I should note that Jared also feeds his operators really well!
Regards, Bruce Smith, temporarily on Jekyll Island, Ga
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of jerryglow2 <jerryglow@...>
Sent: Friday, March 8, 2019 7:52 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Operating on Santa Fe's Alma branch Any videos of the session or your layout?
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UP 175288 in 1938 - emigrants
What kind of car was UP 175288 in 1938? I ran across some documentation (attached) that indicates this car was used to ship a carload of emigrants from Mitchell, SD to Enumclaw, WA in March 1938. Paul Paul Krueger
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Gondola Photos Added To Album Pages
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends,
I have just added photos of two very rare shortline gondolas to "Garth Groff's Album 6, Freight Cars" for your knowledge, enjoyment, and approval. They are found on page 9 of our group's photo section. These are Delray Connecting 1440 and Patapsco & Back Rivers 127. The prints were purchased from a jumble box at Hammon The Archivist in Sacramento some 30 years ago. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: Operating on Santa Fe's Alma branch
David North
I’m looking forward to seeing the video, Jared. Cheers Dave
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Re: Unknown Refrigerator at Steamtown
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Bob,
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The MDT articles at my disposal (Hinman and Rydarwicz) do not mention Duryea underframes. That said, according to a document posted on the Steam Era Freight Cars web site ( http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/prototype/frtcars/duryea-mdt-icmain.html ) MDT 9476-9477 and leased IC 51000 were retro-fitted with Duryea underframes as part of a test. The four MDT cars were M6-2 design from lot 844 built as MDT 94759-8874 sometime between 1947-1950. My two sources don't cover the IC leased cars. These MDT cars were very similar to PFE class R40-23 (Intermountain or Athearn), except for the ends which Hinman says were 4/2/1 (from the drawings with his article they look like 4/3 and are closer to the incorrect Athearn 4/3 ends than Intermountain's correct 3/3). The Steamtown car has Despatch ends which in current modelers' nomenclature are 5/2/S. Only the 1951-1954 M6-4 cars had these ends. Hinman's article in the May 2002 MM is accompanied by a scale drawing of this class plus he offers a nice low-level shot of NRC 19122 from the same group. Both the plan and the photo do not show any indication of a Duryea underframe. Based on the evidence, I cannon support the notion of a Duryea underframe on the Steamtown car. I do not own the Signature Press MDT book. Perhaps someone with a copy can comment on any mention of Duryea underframes. I'm still hoping for a number for the Steamtown car. Has the car been restored, and has anyone here photographed it in recent years? Of course, I should ask if anyone squatted down to see what sort of underframe it has. I suppose I will have to go back to Steamtown someday and do my own crawling around. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
On 2/28/19 10:38 PM, rwitt_2000 via
Groups.Io wrote:
Tim,
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Re: Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
golden1014
It looks like an IC car to me, Gary. The indented Murphy ends are the giveaway.
John Golden
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Re: Operating on Santa Fe's Alma branch
Jared Harper
Tom Klimoski who attended the last session with three friends videoed the session. It whould be posted on You Tube soon. I will let everyone know when it can be viewed.
Jared Harper
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WTB- Sunshine SFRD Rr-46 reefer kit 74.13 or 74.14
Scott
Hello,
Looking to buy one Sunshine SFRD Rr-46 kit number 74.13 or 74.14. Please contact me off list. Thank you Scott McDonald
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Re: Early Intermodal Freight
Neat find!
Those Overland Whippets might have been crated that way for export shipment as well. Ed Bommer
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Re: Early Intermodal Freight
Gary Ray
Thanks, Bob. Perfect load for my layout. Gary Ray Magalia, CA
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
A circa 1928 photo of Overland automobiles (maybe partially assembled?) in shipping crates on flatcars and a barge: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-02-18-19/X6120.jpg Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Early Intermodal Freight
A circa 1928 photo of Overland automobiles (maybe partially assembled?) in shipping crates on flatcars and a barge: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-02-18-19/X6120.jpg Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Operating on Santa Fe's Alma branch
jerryglow2
Any videos of the session or your layout?
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Re: Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
Claus, I see them also. Faintly, likely due to them fully catching the sunlight, but they are there. John Hagen
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Horton via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2019 4:01 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
Former vent boxcar in M of W service.
Todd Horton
On Thursday, March 7, 2019, 2:50:44 PM EST, Ralph W. Brown <rbrown51@...> wrote:
Hi Claus,
Good eye. Now that you’ve brought them to our attention, I can see them too.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what looks to be CG 39623 shown to the left of the water tower? A ventilated boxcar perhaps?
Pax,
Ralph Brown
From: Claus Schlund \(HGM\) Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2019 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Can Anyone identify the gondola coupled to the MP blister sided gondola?
Hi Gary and List Members,
If you look at the image at "Original" resolution, one can faintly (very faintly) make out the diagonals on the near half of the car. They don't show well because the angle of the sun illuminates those diagonals very evenly, and so they seem to disappear unless you do some close inspection.
The "Original" resolution image can be viewed at the link below.
You might have to click on the image in some browsers before you can see the image at its full resolution.
Claus Schlund
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Re: FS: Intermountain Rwy Missouri Pacific and A.R.T. kits for sale
Gary Roe
Sorry guys. I meant this to be sent to Gene only. Obviously that did not happen. My apologies. gary roe quincy, illinois
On Thursday, March 7, 2019 08:31:01 PM CST, Gary Roe <wabashrr@...> wrote:
Gene, If they aren't spoken for yet, I would like to take all 4 of the ART 32000 Series cars 1950-59 Scheme. gary
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Re: FS: Intermountain Rwy Missouri Pacific and A.R.T. kits for sale
Gary Roe
Gene, If they aren't spoken for yet, I would like to take all 4 of the ART 32000 Series cars 1950-59 Scheme. gary
On Thursday, March 7, 2019 06:11:26 PM CST, Gene Semon <mopac1@...> wrote:
I have the following Intermountain Rwy Missouri Pacific and A.R.T. kits for sale.
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Operating on Santa Fe's Alma branch
Jared Harper
I just hosted an op session this past weekend. However, there is time in March to hold another. AlI my Saturdays and Sundays the rest of the month are open. I would also like to host an op session in April. Let me know what days you have open and we will find a common date to work around. I need three people for each date. As always I will serve lunch before the session. Send me you preferences. Jared Harper 420 Woodward Way Athens, GA 30606 706-543-8821
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