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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Eric Hansmann
 

Nice work, Bob!

 

Is that the original kit underframe or an Accurail replacement?

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:22 PM
To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

 

Ben --

 

This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   

 

Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.

 

Regards,

Bob Chapman 

 

 

 

 

 

Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom


Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

S. Busch
 

 

Claus Schlund passed along the nice link to a C&O 125 ton flatcar:

 

“Hi List members,

 Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.

Claus Schlund”

 

Some more information which might be of interest, from the C&O equipment diagram dated 1956:

 

Cars were numbered 80950 through 80959, built by Greenville Steel Car Co.  in November and December 1941.

 

They had completely flat wood planked decks made of “2 and 3/8 inch square edge oak”.

 

Length over strikers was 56 feet 8 and ¾ inches. 

 

Actually, Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989), does show these cars, on pages 192 and 193.  He notes there, that the last cars were retired in 1975.

 

About the well hole flats,  Al Kresse mentioned also that some them went to the NY Central – Carl’s book says these were car numbers 80976 and 80980, sold to the NYC in Feb. 1950.

 

Regards!

Steve Busch

Duncan SC


April ops on the Alma branch

Jared Harper
 

I am planning my April op session on my Santa Fe Alma branch layout.  I need two more people for one of the following dates: 4/6, 4/7, 4/14, 4/27 or 4/28.  My op sessions begin with Lunch at noon.  After lunch we head to the basement for a 2 1/2-3 1/2 hour op session , running mixed trains 95.96 from Burlingame, KS, to Alma, KS and back.  Each train has a 3 man crew.  One person is the engineer, one the conductor and  the third fills the position of brakeman.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30605
706-543-8821










Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Neat Bob, Al Kresse

On March 12, 2019 at 1:22 PM Bob Chapman <chapbob611@...> wrote:

Ben --


This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   


Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.


Regards,

Bob Chapman 






Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom


 


 


Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chapman wrote:
"This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   

Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today."

No blasphemy here...I sometimes sneak in a couple of Athearn metal boxcars into my meet displays.


Ben Hom


Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Bob Chapman
 

Ben --


This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   


Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.


Regards,

Bob Chapman 






Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Randy;

There were water treatment plants all over the country that received chlorine in small 105's. Producers/Users included PennSalt, DuPont, Niagara and many others. You can easily justify use of any number of those cars.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Hammill
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 11:09 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?

Oh, that's right. They are similar, but have a different dome/bonnet and they are jacketed. Darn.

Well, I'll still find something to do with these cars, and I'll have to beg Frank to run some more!

Thanks -

Randy

Randy Hammill
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com


Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Edward
 

That ship with a white diamond on the stack and all those ventilators, is a United Fruit Co. "banana boat," in service between US ports and company plantations in Central America.
Besides New Orleans, United Fruit also served Baltimore, Philadelphia and New York.
Bananas and tropical fruit in, all sorts of freight and materiel out, including passengers both ways.
Photo date to me seems to be the early 1910's.
 
Ed Bommer
 


Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Eric Hansmann
 

That's a nice string of ventilated boxcars. L&N is the easy one to ID. The next one back looks like it is lettered for Central of Georgia.

I wish we had a better look at those gondolas. Check out the big dent along the top chord on one of them.

Did your friend mention the original source?


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] A photo sent to me by a friend

This photo was sent by a friend in Louisiana, it may be of interest to the group it is New Orleans we have no date.

Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


WTB: Resin Car Works 11.01 GN Wood-Sheathed Boxcar

Brian LaManna
 

List,

I was asleep at the wheel and missed out on the recently offered Resin Car Works #11.0 Great Northern Mid-century wood-sheathed boxcar.  If anyone has a kit they're willing to part with, please contact me OFFLIST at:  brianlamannaAThotmail.com with details.  

Thank you,

Brian LaManna/Moncton, NB


Re: BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?

Todd Sullivan
 

Hi Randy,

Acid and acid-like compounds were typically shipped in special acid tank cars, such as those produced in HO by Tangent and Resin Car Works.  I was just up in the Toronto area, and Credit Valley Railway (a big hobby shop) has a bunch of unlettered (painted black) Tangent 8000 gallon GAT cars, if you are looking.  The Tangent cars also show up on eBay occasionally.

Todd Sullivan


Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Bill Welch
 

Based on the size of the reporting marks on the L&N vent car, this is very early.

Bill Welch


Re: Private Name SS Box Car 1536

Lester Breuer
 

Jim to answer your questions. 

1.  I use both PBW and Detail Associates wire both.  I have both in stock.  The PBW easier to obtain and more cost effective if that is a concern; however, not easier to bend.  The brass wire is softer making it easiest for bending.

2.  The uncoupling levers ( cut levers) are on the car in the posted photo.  Not easy to see.  On the blog the “B” end photo was taken before uncoupling levers added; however, the levers are on the car in service “B” end photos.  Since I can not cut off trip pins as I have an operator that can not uncouple cars without them in an ops session  I choose to keep them.  And, because I keep the trip pins I do not like adding the brake hose detail, in my opinion, you have the look of an express car with two sets showing.  I am not a fan of the two hose look.

Take another look:  http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com

3.  The car in the posted photo is weathered as are the in service photos of the cars on the blog.  I like subdued weathering and therefore, I keep the weathering on the light side.  The paragraph above  the in service car photos state the cars are weathered in Pan Pastels and colors used for the weathering are specified.

Again please take another look  at the blog link in 2.

Hopes I have answered your questions.

Lester Breuer


Re: Unidentified deep well flatcar

BRIAN PAUL EHNI
 

Here are two more photos about CISX 500.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "BRIAN PAUL EHNI via Groups.Io" <bpehni@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Monday, March 11, 2019 at 1:35 PM
To: <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Unidentified deep well flatcar

 

That’s right; I was wrong about Newport News. 

Thanks!

Brian Ehni 

(Sent from my iPhone)


On Mar 11, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Jack Mullen <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:

CISX 500, a 250 ton car owned by Carnegie-Illinois Steel Co. And yes, that's Jumbo.
We discussed this a few years back. Check the archives.
Jack Mullen


Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

These came the same time as the deep-well 6-axle flats.  I believe I sent my C&O flat cars binders with photos down to Clifton Forge.  Al Kresse

On March 11, 2019 at 10:25 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:

Claus

I found that image in the Google LIFE magazine collection about 10 years ago. There are quite a
few wonderful railroad (and general steam era) images in the collection.

Tim O'




On 3/11/2019 7:01 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List members,
 
Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.
 
 
Claus Schlund


 


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


 


Re: BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?

Randy Hammill
 

Oh, that's right. They are similar, but have a different dome/bonnet and they are jacketed. Darn.

Well, I'll still find something to do with these cars, and I'll have to beg Frank to run some more!

Thanks - 

Randy

Randy Hammill
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954  | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com


Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Not sure now but the C&O may have swapped some six-axle flats with the NYC.

On March 11, 2019 at 8:41 PM Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote:

Claus,

I wish we could see the whole number. In 1958, C&O had eight well flat cars. Cars numbered 80975 and 80977-80979 were 52' 8" overall. Cars 80996-80999 were 62' 6" overall. Both groups rode on 6 -wheel trucks and had a capacity of 250,000 pounds.

These cars are not shown in Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989). When they were built is a mystery, but the photo in question is dated 1951.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


On 3/11/19 7:01 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List members,
 
Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.
 
 
Claus Schlund


 


 


A photo sent to me by a friend

Paul Doggett
 

This photo was sent by a friend in Louisiana, it may be of interest to the group it is New Orleans we have no date.

Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


Re: steam era freight car images, dating from 1900 to 1942

David Allen
 

Mark Amfahr has a fine article in the UPHS magazine:

Amfahr, Mark. "Union Pacific's Overland Route: The First 20 Years of Operation." Streamliner v33n1.
The picture in question is included; the caption states that U denotes Union Division, K denotes Kansas division and (I guess) J denotes the CC.

Dave Allen


Re: Private Name SS Box Car 1536

Jim Betz
 

Lester,
  Thanks for your excellent blog post on the work you did on this great car.  I have
the following questions/comments:

  1) Why use PBW wire instead of the more typical use of simple brass wire?  Do
      you find it easier to use (such as bends better)?
  2) Why no cut levers?  Or brake hoses (I understand that some guys answer -
      because a train without the hoses connected looks wrong - just want to 
      know your answer).
  3) When will you apply the weathering and will the blog be updated with that
       info when you do - if so please let us know.
                                                                                                   - Jim B.