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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
Bob, No blasphemy here. You have up-graded a post war Varney box car to a level good for at least 40 years later. To me that is “Model Railroading” at its best. U remember well the post war era (born in 43) and always felt the Varney box cars were way ahead of the others. Easy o assemble, pieces did not falloff nor did roof ribs slip out-of-place, door guides stayed in place and they looked very good, not only for the 40’s and 50’s but till today depending on your nit level. Nice job and thanks for posting. John Hagen
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:22 PM To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
Ben --
This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).
Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.
Regards, Bob Chapman
Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. Ben Hom
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Re: A photo sent to me by a friend
Paul Doggett
Sorry Eric no mention of where he got it from, that sure is a ding in the gondola.
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Ed thank you for your information. Paul Doggett. England 🏴
On 12 Mar 2019, at 16:25, Edward <edb8391@...> wrote:
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Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat
Benjamin Hom
Steve Busch wrote:
"The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually: Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc." Edition is *VERY* importantant...the 2014 edition contains much more additional information than the previous editions! Ben Hom
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Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat
S. Busch
OPPS! My bad,
The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:
Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc.
Hope I got it right this time.
Mea culpa!
Steve Busch
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of S. Busch
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:29 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O six-axle heavy duty flat
Claus Schlund passed along the nice link to a C&O 125 ton flatcar:
“Hi List members, Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National. Claus Schlund”
Some more information which might be of interest, from the C&O equipment diagram dated 1956:
Cars were numbered 80950 through 80959, built by Greenville Steel Car Co. in November and December 1941.
They had completely flat wood planked decks made of “2 and 3/8 inch square edge oak”.
Length over strikers was 56 feet 8 and ¾ inches.
Actually, Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989), does show these cars, on pages 192 and 193. He notes there, that the last cars were retired in 1975.
About the well hole flats, Al Kresse mentioned also that some them went to the NY Central – Carl’s book says these were car numbers 80976 and 80980, sold to the NYC in Feb. 1950.
Regards! Steve Busch Duncan SC _._,_._,_
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
Eric Hansmann
Nice work, Bob!
Is that the original kit underframe or an Accurail replacement?
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:22 PM To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io> Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
Ben --
This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).
Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.
Regards, Bob Chapman
Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. Ben Hom
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Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat
S. Busch
Claus Schlund passed along the nice link to a C&O 125 ton flatcar:
“Hi List members, Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National. Claus Schlund”
Some more information which might be of interest, from the C&O equipment diagram dated 1956:
Cars were numbered 80950 through 80959, built by Greenville Steel Car Co. in November and December 1941.
They had completely flat wood planked decks made of “2 and 3/8 inch square edge oak”.
Length over strikers was 56 feet 8 and ¾ inches.
Actually, Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989), does show these cars, on pages 192 and 193. He notes there, that the last cars were retired in 1975.
About the well hole flats, Al Kresse mentioned also that some them went to the NY Central – Carl’s book says these were car numbers 80976 and 80980, sold to the NYC in Feb. 1950.
Regards! Steve Busch Duncan SC
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April ops on the Alma branch
Jared Harper
I am planning my April op session on my Santa Fe Alma branch layout. I need two more people for one of the following dates: 4/6, 4/7, 4/14, 4/27 or 4/28. My op sessions begin with Lunch at noon. After lunch we head to the basement for a 2 1/2-3 1/2 hour op session , running mixed trains 95.96 from Burlingame, KS, to Alma, KS and back. Each train has a 3 man crew. One person is the engineer, one the conductor and the third fills the position of brakeman. Jared Harper 420 Woodward Way Athens, GA 30605 706-543-8821
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
Neat Bob, Al Kresse
On March 12, 2019 at 1:22 PM Bob Chapman <chapbob611@...> wrote:
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
Benjamin Hom
Bob Chapman wrote: "This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely). Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today." No blasphemy here...I sometimes sneak in a couple of Athearn metal boxcars into my meet displays. Ben Hom
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
Bob Chapman
Ben -- This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely). Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today. Regards, Bob Chapman Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. Ben Hom
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Randy;
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There were water treatment plants all over the country that received chlorine in small 105's. Producers/Users included PennSalt, DuPont, Niagara and many others. You can easily justify use of any number of those cars. Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Hammill Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 11:09 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes? Oh, that's right. They are similar, but have a different dome/bonnet and they are jacketed. Darn. Well, I'll still find something to do with these cars, and I'll have to beg Frank to run some more! Thanks - Randy — Randy Hammill Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com
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Re: A photo sent to me by a friend
That ship with a white diamond on the stack and all those ventilators, is a United Fruit Co. "banana boat," in service between US ports and company plantations in Central America.
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Re: A photo sent to me by a friend
Eric Hansmann
That's a nice string of ventilated boxcars. L&N is the easy one to ID. The next one back looks like it is lettered for Central of Georgia.
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I wish we had a better look at those gondolas. Check out the big dent along the top chord on one of them. Did your friend mention the original source? Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:58 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] A photo sent to me by a friend This photo was sent by a friend in Louisiana, it may be of interest to the group it is New Orleans we have no date. Paul Doggett. England 🏴
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WTB: Resin Car Works 11.01 GN Wood-Sheathed Boxcar
Brian LaManna
List,
I was asleep at the wheel and missed out on the recently offered Resin Car Works #11.0 Great Northern Mid-century wood-sheathed boxcar. If anyone has a kit they're willing to part with, please contact me OFFLIST at: brianlamannaAThotmail.com with details.
Thank you,
Brian LaManna/Moncton, NB
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Re: BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?
Todd Sullivan
Hi Randy, Acid and acid-like compounds were typically shipped in special acid tank cars, such as those produced in HO by Tangent and Resin Car Works. I was just up in the Toronto area, and Credit Valley Railway (a big hobby shop) has a bunch of unlettered (painted black) Tangent 8000 gallon GAT cars, if you are looking. The Tangent cars also show up on eBay occasionally. Todd Sullivan
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Re: A photo sent to me by a friend
Bill Welch
Based on the size of the reporting marks on the L&N vent car, this is very early.
Bill Welch
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Re: Private Name SS Box Car 1536
Lester Breuer
Jim to answer your questions.
1. I use both PBW and Detail Associates wire both. I have both in stock. The PBW easier to obtain and more cost effective if that is a concern; however, not easier to bend. The brass wire is softer making it easiest for bending. 2. The uncoupling levers ( cut levers) are on the car in the posted photo. Not easy to see. On the blog the “B” end photo was taken before uncoupling levers added; however, the levers are on the car in service “B” end photos. Since I can not cut off trip pins as I have an operator that can not uncouple cars without them in an ops session I choose to keep them. And, because I keep the trip pins I do not like adding the brake hose detail, in my opinion, you have the look of an express car with two sets showing. I am not a fan of the two hose look. Take another look: http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com 3. The car in the posted photo is weathered as are the in service photos of the cars on the blog. I like subdued weathering and therefore, I keep the weathering on the light side. The paragraph above the in service car photos state the cars are weathered in Pan Pastels and colors used for the weathering are specified. Again please take another look at the blog link in 2. Hopes I have answered your questions. Lester Breuer
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Re: Unidentified deep well flatcar
Here are two more photos about CISX 500.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "BRIAN PAUL EHNI via Groups.Io" <bpehni@...>
That’s right; I was wrong about Newport News. Thanks! Brian Ehni (Sent from my iPhone)
On Mar 11, 2019, at 12:36 PM, Jack Mullen <jack.f.mullen@...> wrote:
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Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat
al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
These came the same time as the deep-well 6-axle flats. I believe I sent my C&O flat cars binders with photos down to Clifton Forge. Al Kresse
On March 11, 2019 at 10:25 PM Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
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Re: BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?
Randy Hammill
Oh, that's right. They are similar, but have a different dome/bonnet and they are jacketed. Darn.
Well, I'll still find something to do with these cars, and I'll have to beg Frank to run some more! Thanks - Randy — Randy Hammill Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com
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