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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

O Fenton Wells
 

Yes my first car was the Varney State of Maine red white and blue metal boxcar....1957.....and I still have it
Fenton 


On Mar 12, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Ken Vandevoort via Groups.Io <apo09324@...> wrote:

First kit I ever built was a metal Varney Fairmont Creamery reefer from E&H Model Hobbies almost 60 years ago.  Still got it.
Ken Vandevoort

Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Paul Doggett
 

Cheers Ron 

Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 12 Mar 2019, at 21:54, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:

if you were to stand at this location today, the Crescent City Connection, formerly the Greater New Orleans Bridge, would be right behind you.  You're looking geographically almost directly south, which at this point is upriver.  At the time of this photo, the T&P passenger station would be to your right and a few blocks away, and the L&N passenger station would be several blocks behind you, at the foot of Canal.  You're at the foot of the warehouse district, and the main tracks would be on the other side of those warehouses.  If you looked across the river you might be able to see the T&NO trackage on the Algiers side.

http://nutrias.org/exhibits/gateway/banana.htm

Ron Merrick

Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Ken Vandevoort <apo09324@...>
 

First kit I ever built was a metal Varney Fairmont Creamery reefer from E&H Model Hobbies almost 60 years ago.  Still got it.
Ken Vandevoort
Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

mopacfirst
 

if you were to stand at this location today, the Crescent City Connection, formerly the Greater New Orleans Bridge, would be right behind you.  You're looking geographically almost directly south, which at this point is upriver.  At the time of this photo, the T&P passenger station would be to your right and a few blocks away, and the L&N passenger station would be several blocks behind you, at the foot of Canal.  You're at the foot of the warehouse district, and the main tracks would be on the other side of those warehouses.  If you looked across the river you might be able to see the T&NO trackage on the Algiers side.

http://nutrias.org/exhibits/gateway/banana.htm

Ron Merrick
Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Is this the same type of C&O depressed center flat car? It was not covered in our 1945 cars redo of the 1937 cars book. Chessie Sys diag book has it built in 1971 and was Class F-26. C&O 80990 and 91 were similar.

Al

On March 12, 2019 at 3:56 PM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@att.net> wrote:


Steve Busch wrote:
"The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:
Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc."

Edition is *VERY* importantant...the 2014 edition contains much more additional information than the previous editions!


Ben Hom
These are sold-Thanks! Terry Wegmann R-30-18 and 19 kits

Andy Carlson
 

SOLD
I have two of my last black Hardware Wegmann R-30-18 HO styrene kits. These have the Equipco fan.

These two kits lack any underfloor/frame parts, and would be good uses with Tichy underframes or with a Red Caboose Bettendorf PFE frame scavenged from an RC PFE kit. A wood running board for a -18 is included. The buyer will need a Plano metal running board for the -19.

Purchase both of these Wegmann R-30-18 kits for $75 which includes shipping to the US. If interested, contact me off-list at <midcentury@...> I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee, PayPal is welcomed.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Bob Chapman
 

Is that the original kit underframe or an Accurail replacement?

Eric Hansmann



Eric --


Good eye! Yes, it's Accurail.


Time for the back-story -- this was a "boxcar rescue". The original Varney sides/ends, running board, a few ladders, and one door were scattered in a box lot given to me at MR club. Seemed too nice not to offer a second life. 


Bob C     
Terry Wegmann R-30-18 and 19 kits

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-

I have two of my last black Hardware Wegmann R-30-18 HO styrene kits. These have the Equipco fan.

These two kits lack any underfloor/frame parts, and would be good uses with Tichy underframes or with a Red Caboose Bettendorf PFE frame scavenged from an RC PFE kit. A wood running board for a -18 is included. The buyer will need a Plano metal running board for the -19.

Purchase both of these Wegmann R-30-18 kits for $75 which includes shipping to the US. If interested, contact me off-list at <midcentury@...> I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee, PayPal is welcomed.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

Bob,

No blasphemy here. You have up-graded a post war Varney box car to a level good for at least 40 years later.

To me that is “Model Railroading” at its best. U remember well the post war era (born in 43) and always felt the Varney box cars were way ahead of the others. Easy o assemble, pieces did not falloff nor did roof ribs slip out-of-place, door guides stayed in place and they looked very good, not only for the 40’s and 50’s but till today depending on your nit level.

Nice job and thanks for posting.

John Hagen

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:22 PM
To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

 

Ben --

 

This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   

 

Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.

 

Regards,

Bob Chapman 

 

 

 

 

 

Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom
Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Paul Doggett
 

Sorry Eric no mention of where he got it from, that sure is a ding in the gondola.
Ed thank you for your information.

Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 12 Mar 2019, at 16:25, Edward <edb8391@...> wrote:

That ship with a white diamond on the stack and all those ventilators, is a United Fruit Co. "banana boat," in service between US ports and company plantations in Central America.
Besides New Orleans, United Fruit also served Baltimore, Philadelphia and New York.
Bananas and tropical fruit in, all sorts of freight and materiel out, including passengers both ways.
Photo date to me seems to be the early 1910's.
 
Ed Bommer
 
Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

Benjamin Hom
 

Steve Busch wrote:
"The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:
Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc."

Edition is *VERY* importantant...the 2014 edition contains much more additional information than the previous editions!


Ben Hom
Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

S. Busch
 

 

OPPS!  My bad,

 

The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:

 

Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc.

 

Hope I got it right this time.

 

Mea culpa!

 

Steve Busch

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of S. Busch
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:29 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

 

 

Claus Schlund passed along the nice link to a C&O 125 ton flatcar:

 

“Hi List members,

 Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.

Claus Schlund”

 

Some more information which might be of interest, from the C&O equipment diagram dated 1956:

 

Cars were numbered 80950 through 80959, built by Greenville Steel Car Co.  in November and December 1941.

 

They had completely flat wood planked decks made of “2 and 3/8 inch square edge oak”.

 

Length over strikers was 56 feet 8 and ¾ inches. 

 

Actually, Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989), does show these cars, on pages 192 and 193.  He notes there, that the last cars were retired in 1975.

 

About the well hole flats,  Al Kresse mentioned also that some them went to the NY Central – Carl’s book says these were car numbers 80976 and 80980, sold to the NYC in Feb. 1950.

 

Regards!

Steve Busch

Duncan SC

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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Eric Hansmann
 

Nice work, Bob!

 

Is that the original kit underframe or an Accurail replacement?

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:22 PM
To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

 

Ben --

 

This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   

 

Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.

 

Regards,

Bob Chapman 

 

 

 

 

 

Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom
Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

S. Busch
 

 

Claus Schlund passed along the nice link to a C&O 125 ton flatcar:

 

“Hi List members,

 Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.

Claus Schlund”

 

Some more information which might be of interest, from the C&O equipment diagram dated 1956:

 

Cars were numbered 80950 through 80959, built by Greenville Steel Car Co.  in November and December 1941.

 

They had completely flat wood planked decks made of “2 and 3/8 inch square edge oak”.

 

Length over strikers was 56 feet 8 and ¾ inches. 

 

Actually, Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989), does show these cars, on pages 192 and 193.  He notes there, that the last cars were retired in 1975.

 

About the well hole flats,  Al Kresse mentioned also that some them went to the NY Central – Carl’s book says these were car numbers 80976 and 80980, sold to the NYC in Feb. 1950.

 

Regards!

Steve Busch

Duncan SC
April ops on the Alma branch

Jared Harper
 

I am planning my April op session on my Santa Fe Alma branch layout.  I need two more people for one of the following dates: 4/6, 4/7, 4/14, 4/27 or 4/28.  My op sessions begin with Lunch at noon.  After lunch we head to the basement for a 2 1/2-3 1/2 hour op session , running mixed trains 95.96 from Burlingame, KS, to Alma, KS and back.  Each train has a 3 man crew.  One person is the engineer, one the conductor and  the third fills the position of brakeman.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30605
706-543-8821
Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Neat Bob, Al Kresse

On March 12, 2019 at 1:22 PM Bob Chapman <chapbob611@...> wrote:

Ben --


This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   


Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.


Regards,

Bob Chapman 






Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom


 


 
Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chapman wrote:
"This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   

Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today."

No blasphemy here...I sometimes sneak in a couple of Athearn metal boxcars into my meet displays.


Ben Hom
Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Bob Chapman
 

Ben --


This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   


Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.


Regards,

Bob Chapman 






Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom
Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Randy;

There were water treatment plants all over the country that received chlorine in small 105's. Producers/Users included PennSalt, DuPont, Niagara and many others. You can easily justify use of any number of those cars.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Hammill
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 11:09 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?

Oh, that's right. They are similar, but have a different dome/bonnet and they are jacketed. Darn.

Well, I'll still find something to do with these cars, and I'll have to beg Frank to run some more!

Thanks -

Randy
—
Randy Hammill
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com
Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Edward
 

That ship with a white diamond on the stack and all those ventilators, is a United Fruit Co. "banana boat," in service between US ports and company plantations in Central America.
Besides New Orleans, United Fruit also served Baltimore, Philadelphia and New York.
Bananas and tropical fruit in, all sorts of freight and materiel out, including passengers both ways.
Photo date to me seems to be the early 1910's.
 
Ed Bommer
 
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