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Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Is this the same type of C&O depressed center flat car? It was not covered in our 1945 cars redo of the 1937 cars book. Chessie Sys diag book has it built in 1971 and was Class F-26. C&O 80990 and 91 were similar.

Al

On March 12, 2019 at 3:56 PM Benjamin Hom <b.hom@att.net> wrote:


Steve Busch wrote:
"The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:
Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc."

Edition is *VERY* importantant...the 2014 edition contains much more additional information than the previous editions!


Ben Hom



These are sold-Thanks! Terry Wegmann R-30-18 and 19 kits

Andy Carlson
 

SOLD
I have two of my last black Hardware Wegmann R-30-18 HO styrene kits. These have the Equipco fan.

These two kits lack any underfloor/frame parts, and would be good uses with Tichy underframes or with a Red Caboose Bettendorf PFE frame scavenged from an RC PFE kit. A wood running board for a -18 is included. The buyer will need a Plano metal running board for the -19.

Purchase both of these Wegmann R-30-18 kits for $75 which includes shipping to the US. If interested, contact me off-list at <midcentury@...> I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee, PayPal is welcomed.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Bob Chapman
 

Is that the original kit underframe or an Accurail replacement?

Eric Hansmann



Eric --


Good eye! Yes, it's Accurail.


Time for the back-story -- this was a "boxcar rescue". The original Varney sides/ends, running board, a few ladders, and one door were scattered in a box lot given to me at MR club. Seemed too nice not to offer a second life. 


Bob C     


Terry Wegmann R-30-18 and 19 kits

Andy Carlson
 

Hello-

I have two of my last black Hardware Wegmann R-30-18 HO styrene kits. These have the Equipco fan.

These two kits lack any underfloor/frame parts, and would be good uses with Tichy underframes or with a Red Caboose Bettendorf PFE frame scavenged from an RC PFE kit. A wood running board for a -18 is included. The buyer will need a Plano metal running board for the -19.

Purchase both of these Wegmann R-30-18 kits for $75 which includes shipping to the US. If interested, contact me off-list at <midcentury@...> I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee, PayPal is welcomed.

Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
 

Bob,

No blasphemy here. You have up-graded a post war Varney box car to a level good for at least 40 years later.

To me that is “Model Railroading” at its best. U remember well the post war era (born in 43) and always felt the Varney box cars were way ahead of the others. Easy o assemble, pieces did not falloff nor did roof ribs slip out-of-place, door guides stayed in place and they looked very good, not only for the 40’s and 50’s but till today depending on your nit level.

Nice job and thanks for posting.

John Hagen

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:22 PM
To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

 

Ben --

 

This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   

 

Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.

 

Regards,

Bob Chapman 

 

 

 

 

 

Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom


Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Paul Doggett
 

Sorry Eric no mention of where he got it from, that sure is a ding in the gondola.
Ed thank you for your information.

Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 


On 12 Mar 2019, at 16:25, Edward <edb8391@...> wrote:

That ship with a white diamond on the stack and all those ventilators, is a United Fruit Co. "banana boat," in service between US ports and company plantations in Central America.
Besides New Orleans, United Fruit also served Baltimore, Philadelphia and New York.
Bananas and tropical fruit in, all sorts of freight and materiel out, including passengers both ways.
Photo date to me seems to be the early 1910's.
 
Ed Bommer
 


Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

Benjamin Hom
 

Steve Busch wrote:
"The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:
Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc."

Edition is *VERY* importantant...the 2014 edition contains much more additional information than the previous editions!


Ben Hom


Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

S. Busch
 

 

OPPS!  My bad,

 

The Carl Shaver book containing information on the flatcars, is actually:

 

Chesapeake & Ohio Freight Cars 1937 -1946 , Copyright 1980, 1989, and 2014, Chesapeake & Ohio Historical Society, Inc.

 

Hope I got it right this time.

 

Mea culpa!

 

Steve Busch

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of S. Busch
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 3:29 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

 

 

Claus Schlund passed along the nice link to a C&O 125 ton flatcar:

 

“Hi List members,

 Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.

Claus Schlund”

 

Some more information which might be of interest, from the C&O equipment diagram dated 1956:

 

Cars were numbered 80950 through 80959, built by Greenville Steel Car Co.  in November and December 1941.

 

They had completely flat wood planked decks made of “2 and 3/8 inch square edge oak”.

 

Length over strikers was 56 feet 8 and ¾ inches. 

 

Actually, Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989), does show these cars, on pages 192 and 193.  He notes there, that the last cars were retired in 1975.

 

About the well hole flats,  Al Kresse mentioned also that some them went to the NY Central – Carl’s book says these were car numbers 80976 and 80980, sold to the NYC in Feb. 1950.

 

Regards!

Steve Busch

Duncan SC

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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Eric Hansmann
 

Nice work, Bob!

 

Is that the original kit underframe or an Accurail replacement?

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chapman
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:22 PM
To: STMFC <main@realstmfc.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

 

Ben --

 

This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   

 

Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.

 

Regards,

Bob Chapman 

 

 

 

 

 

Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom


Re: C&O six-axle heavy duty flat

S. Busch
 

 

Claus Schlund passed along the nice link to a C&O 125 ton flatcar:

 

“Hi List members,

 Nice image of a C&O six-axle heavy duty flat in what is clearly the steam era on the Canadian National.

Claus Schlund”

 

Some more information which might be of interest, from the C&O equipment diagram dated 1956:

 

Cars were numbered 80950 through 80959, built by Greenville Steel Car Co.  in November and December 1941.

 

They had completely flat wood planked decks made of “2 and 3/8 inch square edge oak”.

 

Length over strikers was 56 feet 8 and ¾ inches. 

 

Actually, Carl Shaver's FREIGHT CAR EQUIPMENT OF THE CHESAPEAKE & OHIO RAILWAY, AUGUST 1, 1937 (revised ed., 1989), does show these cars, on pages 192 and 193.  He notes there, that the last cars were retired in 1975.

 

About the well hole flats,  Al Kresse mentioned also that some them went to the NY Central – Carl’s book says these were car numbers 80976 and 80980, sold to the NYC in Feb. 1950.

 

Regards!

Steve Busch

Duncan SC


April ops on the Alma branch

Jared Harper
 

I am planning my April op session on my Santa Fe Alma branch layout.  I need two more people for one of the following dates: 4/6, 4/7, 4/14, 4/27 or 4/28.  My op sessions begin with Lunch at noon.  After lunch we head to the basement for a 2 1/2-3 1/2 hour op session , running mixed trains 95.96 from Burlingame, KS, to Alma, KS and back.  Each train has a 3 man crew.  One person is the engineer, one the conductor and  the third fills the position of brakeman.

Jared Harper
420 Woodward Way
Athens, GA 30605
706-543-8821










Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Neat Bob, Al Kresse

On March 12, 2019 at 1:22 PM Bob Chapman <chapbob611@...> wrote:

Ben --


This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   


Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.


Regards,

Bob Chapman 






Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom


 


 


Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chapman wrote:
"This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   

Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today."

No blasphemy here...I sometimes sneak in a couple of Athearn metal boxcars into my meet displays.


Ben Hom


Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Bob Chapman
 

Ben --


This may border on blasphemy, but I recently had some fun upgrading this Varney steel boxcar "legacy model" with new running boards, ladders, grabs, stirrups, handbrake, etc. -- as well as some paint correction on the door. Best of all -- it even resembles the MoPac prototype (if you don't look too closely).   


Those ads were very enticing in their day, and Varney's steel boxcars have good curb-appeal even today.


Regards,

Bob Chapman 






Varney freight car ad, January 1954 issue of Model Railroader. 

Ben Hom


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Randy;

There were water treatment plants all over the country that received chlorine in small 105's. Producers/Users included PennSalt, DuPont, Niagara and many others. You can easily justify use of any number of those cars.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy Hammill
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 11:09 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?

Oh, that's right. They are similar, but have a different dome/bonnet and they are jacketed. Darn.

Well, I'll still find something to do with these cars, and I'll have to beg Frank to run some more!

Thanks -

Randy

Randy Hammill
Modeling the New Haven Railroad 1946-1954 | https//:blog.newbritainstation.com


Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Edward
 

That ship with a white diamond on the stack and all those ventilators, is a United Fruit Co. "banana boat," in service between US ports and company plantations in Central America.
Besides New Orleans, United Fruit also served Baltimore, Philadelphia and New York.
Bananas and tropical fruit in, all sorts of freight and materiel out, including passengers both ways.
Photo date to me seems to be the early 1910's.
 
Ed Bommer
 


Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Eric Hansmann
 

That's a nice string of ventilated boxcars. L&N is the easy one to ID. The next one back looks like it is lettered for Central of Georgia.

I wish we had a better look at those gondolas. Check out the big dent along the top chord on one of them.

Did your friend mention the original source?


Eric Hansmann
Murfreesboro, TN

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Doggett via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:58 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] A photo sent to me by a friend

This photo was sent by a friend in Louisiana, it may be of interest to the group it is New Orleans we have no date.

Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


WTB: Resin Car Works 11.01 GN Wood-Sheathed Boxcar

Brian LaManna
 

List,

I was asleep at the wheel and missed out on the recently offered Resin Car Works #11.0 Great Northern Mid-century wood-sheathed boxcar.  If anyone has a kit they're willing to part with, please contact me OFFLIST at:  brianlamannaAThotmail.com with details.  

Thank you,

Brian LaManna/Moncton, NB


Re: BLI Tank Cars - Other prototypes?

Todd Sullivan
 

Hi Randy,

Acid and acid-like compounds were typically shipped in special acid tank cars, such as those produced in HO by Tangent and Resin Car Works.  I was just up in the Toronto area, and Credit Valley Railway (a big hobby shop) has a bunch of unlettered (painted black) Tangent 8000 gallon GAT cars, if you are looking.  The Tangent cars also show up on eBay occasionally.

Todd Sullivan


Re: A photo sent to me by a friend

Bill Welch
 

Based on the size of the reporting marks on the L&N vent car, this is very early.

Bill Welch

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