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Re: AHM 40' 8-panel gondola
Richard Townsend
Oh, by the way it's solid bottom. No drop doors.
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Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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From: Richard Townsend via Groups.Io <richtownsend@...> To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Wed, Mar 13, 2019 10:24 am Subject: [RealSTMFC] AHM 40' 8-panel gondola I was going through my junk box this morning and came a cross an AHM 40-foot, eight-panel gondola. It got me wondering: is there a prototype for this car? A quick look through several Carbuilder Cycs came up with plenty of nine-panel cars, but no eights. Any suggestions?
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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AHM 40' 8-panel gondola
Richard Townsend
I was going through my junk box this morning and came a cross an AHM 40-foot, eight-panel gondola. It got me wondering: is there a prototype for this car? A quick look through several Carbuilder Cycs came up with plenty of nine-panel cars, but no eights. Any suggestions?
Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
Gary Ray
Eric, Great job for an 11 year old (or anyone)! Has held up well over the years. Gary Ray
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Lombard
Hello Everyone, I have enjoyed the memories on this thread! My first model, 1953, was plastic SFRD reefer. As I recall, a yellow and black body shell, underframe, and trucks. Not difficult for a 10-year-old. My father, in Korea, had suggested we start thinking about a model RR. The nest year, the family together in Japan, my first scratch build: a Jack Armstrong (have I got that right?) strathmoor freight house from plans in MR. The reefer is gone, but the freight house endures and here is this morning's photo. The finish shows the strong influence of John Allen on this beginner and look at all those hand laid shingles!!
Eric Lombard
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Re: Missouri Pacific 50-foot SS DD: Modeling from MDC
mopacfirst
Those are really good detail shots, especially showing the two-level Dalman trucks. Those weren't available when this car first appeared, and maybe I didn't notice the difference, but I used the Roundhouse truck on this and a few other cars of similar era because it had the sort of roundness to the sideframe that some of these older trucks had. I also notice these are drop grabs on the end right and side left corners, not sure what's on mine.
Regarding the wood doors, I will note this car was repacked at Lesperance St. (MP in St. Louis) 3-45. Ron Merrick
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
Hello Everyone,
I have enjoyed the memories on this thread! My first model, 1953, was plastic SFRD reefer. As I recall, a yellow and black body shell, underframe, and trucks. Not difficult for a 10-year-old. My father, in Korea, had suggested we start thinking about a model RR. The nest year, the family together in Japan, my first scratch build: a Jack Armstrong (have I got that right?) strathmoor freight house from plans in MR. The reefer is gone, but the freight house endures and here is this morning's photo. The finish shows the strong influence of John Allen on this beginner and look at all those hand laid shingles!!
Eric Lombard
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Re: NKP Consist
William Hirt
Lenny,
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Here is the excerpt from National Perishable Protective Tariff #11 from 1941 about salting normal refrigerator cars: (F) Shipper must specify in writing on shipping order and bill of lading salting service desired, as provided in this rule, using the appropriate, "Shipper's Instructions" as shown below, and Agent must waybill accordingly: (a) Salt Service with Standard Refrigeration Service: 1-"...% salt supplied with initial icing. No further salting." 2-". . .%salt supplied with initial icing. Supply % salt at all regular icing stations." 3-"...% salt supplied with initial icing. Supply same percentage salt at (Specify regular icing station). No further salting." 4- "Supply . . .% salt at (Insert first reicing station) on basis bunker capacity of car and at all reicing stations thereafter ... % salt on basis amount ice supplied . ' 5-"No salt supplied with initial icing. Supply. . .% salt at (Specify regular icing station) on basis bunker capacity of car. No further salting." 6-"No salt supplied with initial icing. Supply. . .% salt at (Specify regular icing station) on basis bunker capacity of car and at (Specify regular icing station) on basis amount ice supplied. No further salting." 7-"100 pounds salt supplied with initial icing. Supply pounds (Specify 75 lbs. or less) of salt at each regular icing station in transit." Exception.—Not applicable on traffic covered by paragraph G-9. 8-"No salt supplied with initial icing. Supply 100 pounds salt at (Specify regular icing station) and pounds (Specify 75 lbs. or less) of salt at each regular icing station in transit." Exception.—Not applicable on traffic covered by paragraph G-9. 9-Applies only as provided in sub-paragraph 9 of paragraph G.—"Supply. . . .pounds of salt at origin and. . . . pounds at all regular icing stations." Note.—-One of instructions provided above for supplying salt on basis of percentage of ice supplied may be given in addition to this instruction. 10-Applies only as provided in sub-paragraph 9 of paragraph G.—"Supply. . . .pounds of salt at (Specify origin and /or one or more regular icing stations and quantity} of salt to be supplied at each)." Note.—One of instructions provided above for supplying salt on basis of percentage of ice supplied may be given in addition to this instruction. So it seems like the shipper specified the amount of salt as there was a charge for salt each time it was done. Is this different than when you worked for Western Fruit Express? Bill Hirt
On 3/13/2019 9:44 AM, Walter wrote:
National Perishable Protective Tariff
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BLI 6000 Tank Cars
Jeffrey White
I preorderd the 4 pack that had the Monsanto car. Trainworld just called and said the order was in and they were going to ship.
Does anyone here want any of these cars? Elect. Bleach. Gas #193 Niag. Smelt. #1001 South. Alkali #634 I'm willing to trade for Hooker or UTLX. Jeff White Alma, IL
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Re: modeling a crane question
John Hagen <sprinthag@...>
Doug, There may have been a discussion here about allowing cranes and such here as Jack references, but I don’t recall it. That doesn’t mean a darn thing as I don’t recall what I had for breakfast…… or if I had breakfast. But, as usual, I do have an opinion. Of course, if there has been a hard rule made against it, I stand very much corrected. To my way of thinking, MOW equipment should be included here. Yes, they are not revenue producing freight cars, but they are carriers of freight necessary for to the railroad’s operation. Nit-pickers beware; I can get my back up and raise cane (My hurricane that is) if I hear all about the used passenger cars in company service or how a caboose doesn’t haul freight. Well, in MOW service, many a caboose did haul freight and, back in the day, I’d dare you to show me a freight train that did not need a caboose on it. Besides I love rr cranes. And that’s my two cents, which is likely more than it’s worth. John Hagen
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Forbes
I have a few questions as to modeling a railroad crane/wrecker but I wanted to first make sure that this topic is appropriate for this group as its now a freight car per se. Would someone give me a thumbs up or thumbs down before I proceed with my questions?
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Re: Missouri Pacific 50-foot SS DD: Modeling from MDC
Bill Welch
No, it is in a storage box but it looks exactly like the two photos
Bill Welch
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Re: NKP Consist
Todd Sullivan
Hi Jack, Binghamton was home to Endicott-Johnson, a shoe manufacturing company that employed about 25,000 people at its height and consumed tons of hides. The Erie RR tracks through neighboring Johnson City and Endicott were lined with E-J factory buildings, and even today in that area, any name that has 'E' and 'J' in it probably was associated with the company, e.g., the EnJoy Country Club. Ever heard of Ena-Jetic Shoes? That was an E-J brand. There's lots more to the E-J story. George F. Johnson, E-J's leader for many years, had a policy of respecting people, which helped grow the company and the region. His "Square Deal" (a fair day's pay for a fair day's work) helped FDR create his "New Deal", and many of Johnson's ethics and policies were adopted by IBM's Thomas J. Watson Sr. E-J workers who came from all over Europe would send money to their families back home so they could come to Binghamton and get jobs at E-J. Immigrant families would arrive in New York and the only English they know was "Which way E-J?" The Binghamton area today is still shows much more hospitality and respect to people than any other area in the Northeastern U.S. that I have experienced, and one's ethnic and cultural background is to be celebrated rather than be a reason to compete. Todd Sullivan.
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
Gene Green <genegreen1942@...>
I got my start in model railroading with Varney plastic kits. Sometime in the early 1950s KIX cereal offered Varney kits with a box top and some token amount of money. As I recall now, I started with an undecorated unpowered F-unit a couple of box cars and some hopper cars. Varney's plastic covered hopper was just a "lid" on the open-top, two-bay hopper. I believe I still have all those cars and the locomotive. Gene Green
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RPCYC
Jerry Michels
If anyone is interested, we have a few duplicate issues for sale Jerry Michels
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Re: NKP Consist
Walter
Someone thought the percentages shown in the right column for the two cars was for
weight limit. The tonnage column shows 55 and 45 tons. If someone has a copy of the National Perishable Protective Tariff for that time frame, I would be curious as to how much salt was specified. The citrus fruit has 3 or 4 percent salt added if I recall. Lenny Ohrnell
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Re: modeling a crane question
Jack Burgess
I seem to recall that we concluded earlier and M of W and cabooses were okay. But someone else might remember differently…
Jack
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Doug Forbes
I have a few questions as to modeling a railroad crane/wrecker but I wanted to first make sure that this topic is appropriate for this group as its now a freight car per se. Would someone give me a thumbs up or thumbs down before I proceed with my questions?
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Throwback Thursday: Ambroid PRR Class R7 Reefer
Benjamin Hom
Ambroid PRR Class R7 reefer ad, February 1959 issue of Model Railroader. Ben Hom
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modeling a crane question
Doug Forbes
I have a few questions as to modeling a railroad crane/wrecker but I wanted to first make sure that this topic is appropriate for this group as its now a freight car per se. Would someone give me a thumbs up or thumbs down before I proceed with my questions?
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Re: Throwback Thursday: Varney's Shift to Styrene
you posted that same ad from the same issue back in February
On 3/13/2019 9:48 AM, Benjamin Hom
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Throwback Thursday: Varney's Shift to Styrene
Benjamin Hom
Varney ad, February 1959 issue of Model Railroader. The tank car and single door boxcar eventually went to Life-Like. Ben Hom
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Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits
I only have one of the old Varney cars. It is the Frisco Box Car - still in service. Jim Kubanick Morgantown WV
On Tuesday, March 12, 2019, 8:18:42 PM EDT, O Fenton Wells <srrfan1401@...> wrote:
Yes my first car was the Varney State of Maine red white and blue metal boxcar....1957.....and I still have it
Fenton
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Re: Missouri Pacific 50-foot SS DD: Modeling from MDC
Thanks so much Bill, if possible could you post a photo of your finished model. Thanks Fenton
On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:25 AM Bill Welch <fgexbill@...> wrote: Recently there was a thread about the Model Die Casting 50-foot kit in its various forms including two wood doors that is exactly correct for the Missouri Pacific. Attached are two scans of Howard Ameling photos (printed by Joe Collias) that help document how accurate the MDC kit is for the MP. I would not ordinarily post photos from a commercial vender but Mr. Ameling is deceased and his collection is not in wide circulation but does have a home with the Nickel Plate Historical Society according to their website. Can any Nickel Plate HS members please tell us if a list of his photos is available? --
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