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Re: NKP Consist

Jack Mullen
 

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 10:41 AM, Brian Carlson wrote:
I'm really interested in ARLX 1225 for Warren PA. This car is not going to Buffalo (0) it's going to 87 I need to look this up. The likely place is Erie but a second class train would be unlikely to stop there to drop one car.
Yeah, the 9 cars at the bottom of the consist (presumably head end) are a bit puzzling to me. The 7xxx station numbers are W&LE destinations, so I suppose will be dropped at Bellevue, or maybe Lorain - I haven't looked at where they go on the Wheeling. That leaves shorts for 184 Cleveland, 102 Wallace Jct/ BLE, and 87 Erie / PRR. Like you, I don't think a thru freight is going to be making individual setouts, so I'm guessing they get dropped somewhere to go on a local. I know zilch about NKP ops, so hopefully this will provoke somebody with better knowledge to chime in.

Jack

Re: Throwback Thursday: Ambroid PRR Class R7 Reefer

 

When I started moving in manufacturer circles, I found that Ambroid never sold 5,000 of any of these kits.  However, the fact that they were limited run meant that they sold more of them than most of their regular line. – Al Westerfield

 

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From: Tom Madden via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:09 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Throwback Thursday: Ambroid PRR Class R7 Reefer

 

Here's a link to a useful listing of all the Ambroid 1 of 5000 kits:
http://www.trainweb.org/ambroidkits/trains/woodkits/Ambroid_5-Cars.htm

I lusted after them and bought each as they were released. Built all of the first series but gave up buying them after #4 of the second series as it seemed they were really reaching for prototypes. Plus I was deeply into Colorado narrow gauge by then and ended up selling all my '50s era standard gauge models and kits except for my first locomotive, a Mantua Shifter 0-4-0. Still have it. Also still have a small drawer full of Mantua and Comet paper freight car sides. Mostly reefers.

Like many modelers of the time I was greatly influenced by John Allen's articles and Varney ads. Hard to believe he's been gone for over 46 years. I know in some circles his work is no longer greeted with acclaim because he wasn't a prototype modeler and, like Malcolm Furlow's modeling, it seems to lean heavily towards caricature. But the G&D seemed credible and real to me at the time.....

Tom Madden

 

Re: Throwback Thursday: Ambroid PRR Class R7 Reefer

Tim O'Connor
 

Tom

Thanks for the great web page link! I now see that my Dad built the whole series #1 except
for the caboose and the stock car.

I was crazy about John Allen as a teen. Not just his modeling, but because his railroad was a business.
He created a narrative to explain the operations and the trains served a purpose. That was a revelation
on a par with the Delta Lines. I know my Dad was deeply influenced by the Delta Lines and I still have
his elaborate layout plans for a never-built layout he drew based on Frank Ellison's work to fit our basement.

Tim O'

On 3/13/2019 5:09 PM, Tom Madden via Groups.Io wrote:

Here's a link to a useful listing of all the Ambroid 1 of 5000 kits:
http://www.trainweb.org/ambroidkits/trains/woodkits/Ambroid_5-Cars.htm

I lusted after them and bought each as they were released. Built all of the first series but gave up buying them after #4 of the second series as it seemed they were really reaching for prototypes. Plus I was deeply into Colorado narrow gauge by then and ended up selling all my '50s era standard gauge models and kits except for my first locomotive, a Mantua Shifter 0-4-0. Still have it. Also still have a small drawer full of Mantua and Comet paper freight car sides. Mostly reefers.

Like many modelers of the time I was greatly influenced by John Allen's articles and Varney ads. Hard to believe he's been gone for over 46 years. I know in some circles his work is no longer greeted with acclaim because he wasn't a prototype modeler and, like Malcolm Furlow's modeling, it seems to lean heavily towards caricature. But the G&D seemed credible and real to me at the time.....

Tom Madden
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

Re: Type Of Brake Wheels?

John Sykes III
 

Kadee???

LMAO -- John

Re: Private Name SS Box Car 1536

Tom Larsen
 

Thank you for a very informative blog post.
Nice looking car by the way.
Not being able to determine from the photos but do you “just” glue wire across the rungs for ladders or do you drill the rungs and bend the wire to form the ladder steps?
 
Tom Larsen
Holte, Denmark
 
 

From: Lester Breuer
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 2:09 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Private Name SS Box Car 1536
 
I finished converting a plastic single-sheathed  box car incorrect for the Soo Line box car it was lettered for into a private name home road box car.   The writeup includes a few tips on lettering removal, milling running boards, and weathering.  Photos and writeup of building and finishing  Minneapolis & Northland SS Box Car 1536 are now on my blog I started to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.   If you would like to take a look please do at the following:
 
http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/
 
Lester Breuer

 

Re: AHM 40' 8-panel gondola

Benjamin Hom
 

Richard Townsend asked: 
"I was going through my junk box this morning and came a cross an AHM 40-foot, eight-panel gondola. It got me wondering: is there a prototype for this car? A quick look through several Carbuilder Cycs came up with plenty of nine-panel cars, but no eights. Any suggestions? Oh, by the way it's solid bottom. No drop doors."

Bill Welch wrote:
"Hard to tell w/o a photo of the model..."

Photo attached - this is one of the most common models out there, originally introduced by Varney during their switch to styrene, copied by Rivarossi and Cox, and later offered by Walthers, Life-Like, and Bachmann.  It's a plausible model - it's not outlandish like the Athearn 50 ft gon, but the problem is it doesn't match any known prototype.

However, it's so common that I'm considering using it for a bunch of ersatz "Tan Dot" SP gons as I have more than a few on hand, saving the Red Caboose and Detail Associates models for foreground models.  Here's Jason Hill's approach on doing this:


Ben Hom


Re: modeling a crane question

John Hagen
 

Doug,

Looking at the center photo there something, probably a 2X4 or 4X6, across the top of that “hump” in the boom. While a hunk of wood there would not prevent the boom from touching the overhead, it would insulate it.

John Hagen

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Forbes
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 3:31 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] modeling a crane question

 

The Illinois Traction had an electric wrecking crane that was used both for wreck jobs as well as digging coal out of the two underwater coal storage pits they had built.  I'm looking for recommendations as to how to model such a thing.  I have looked at commercially available kits.  It seems like the Tichy crane frame might work but that a new cab and boom will need to be scratch built or 3D printed or something.  Thoughts?  Still not sure how one would manage a metal crane boom with an overhead powered wire directly above, seems like an electrifying challenge...



This is from the Illinois Terminal Facebook page. 


From 1916.

Re: WTB: Resin Car Works 11.01 GN Wood-Sheathed Boxcar

Brian LaManna
 

List,

I found the RCW GN boxcar I was searching for -- thanks to the members who contacted me to help.

Cheers!

Brian LaManna/Moncton


From: Brian LaManna
Sent: March 12, 2019 1:07 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: WTB: Resin Car Works 11.01 GN Wood-Sheathed Boxcar
 
List,

I was asleep at the wheel and missed out on the recently offered Resin Car Works #11.0 Great Northern Mid-century wood-sheathed boxcar.  If anyone has a kit they're willing to part with, please contact me OFFLIST at:  brianlamannaAThotmail.com with details.  

Thank you,

Brian LaManna/Moncton, NB

Re: AHM 40' 8-panel gondola

Bill Welch
 

Hard to tell w/o a photo of the model but the L&N owned 10,000 8-panel 7-rib cars, NC&StL 1.150,  and Southern 4,450 cars, all kited by Sunshine. These are high side gons for coal, etc.

Bill Welch

Re: modeling a crane question

 

Funny thing is, if cabooses, cranes, MOW equipment, etc. weren't around regular freight cars would have a VERY HARD TIME MOVING! So yes they definitely need to be discussed here.
Andy Jackson
Santa Fe Springs CA


Re: Throwback Thursday: Ambroid PRR Class R7 Reefer

Tom Madden
 

Here's a link to a useful listing of all the Ambroid 1 of 5000 kits:
http://www.trainweb.org/ambroidkits/trains/woodkits/Ambroid_5-Cars.htm

I lusted after them and bought each as they were released. Built all of the first series but gave up buying them after #4 of the second series as it seemed they were really reaching for prototypes. Plus I was deeply into Colorado narrow gauge by then and ended up selling all my '50s era standard gauge models and kits except for my first locomotive, a Mantua Shifter 0-4-0. Still have it. Also still have a small drawer full of Mantua and Comet paper freight car sides. Mostly reefers.

Like many modelers of the time I was greatly influenced by John Allen's articles and Varney ads. Hard to believe he's been gone for over 46 years. I know in some circles his work is no longer greeted with acclaim because he wasn't a prototype modeler and, like Malcolm Furlow's modeling, it seems to lean heavily towards caricature. But the G&D seemed credible and real to me at the time.....

Tom Madden

Re: Type Of Brake Wheels?

Richard Townsend
 

I don't know about the brake wheels, but I sure like the granite curbstones on the flat car in the background of the second photo.

Richard Townsend
Lincoln City, OR


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...>
To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Mar 13, 2019 1:17 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Type Of Brake Wheels?

I may have missed an earlier answer to this (sorry) but what type of brake wheels are these?
Thanks.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA

Re: modeling a crane question

Doug Forbes
 

The Illinois Traction had an electric wrecking crane that was used both for wreck jobs as well as digging coal out of the two underwater coal storage pits they had built.  I'm looking for recommendations as to how to model such a thing.  I have looked at commercially available kits.  It seems like the Tichy crane frame might work but that a new cab and boom will need to be scratch built or 3D printed or something.  Thoughts?  Still not sure how one would manage a metal crane boom with an overhead powered wire directly above, seems like an electrifying challenge...



This is from the Illinois Terminal Facebook page. 


From 1916.

Type Of Brake Wheels?

Bob Chaparro
 

I may have missed an earlier answer to this (sorry) but what type of brake wheels are these?

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-01-19/X5988.jpg

http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-01-01-19/X5987.jpg (Roof leak likely.)

Thanks.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA

Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Lee Thwaits
 

My first kits were Varney wood & cardboard & Mantua metal.  When did Varney switch to metal?  Does this tell about my age?

Lee Thwaits

Re: Throwback Thursday: Ambroid PRR Class R7 Reefer

Benjamin Hom
 

Ralph Brown asked:
"Does anyone know the number for this 1 of 5000 series kit?"

No. 5.


Ben Hom

Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

G.J. Irwin
 

My late father had at least the ART refrigerator car.  It was cool-- literally-- to pick up that car versus the plastic ones.  Once I find it, I'm keeping it!

George Irwin

Re: Throwback Tuesday: Varney Metal Freight Car Kits

Michael Gross
 

That’s a sweet-looking freight house, even by today’s standards!

Michael Gross
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Re: modeling a crane question

spsalso
 

The search term "crane" produced 457 results.  Among them, some as wreck cranes.

Get on with it!


Ed

Edward Sutorik

Re: modeling a crane question

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

We long ago declared cabooses and MW equipment as valid for discussion, but maybe that was back on the old STMFC. I have a hard time remembering that far back myself, but since I usually eat Cheerios I can remember my breakfast. We also agreed that express boxcars, express reefers and milk cars were also allowed. I can't remember if drovers' cars have ever been discussed, but they are probably o.k. as well. After all, we've spent a great amount of bandwidth on poultry cars, including the attendant's space. That attendant
was just a chicken drover, of a sort.

I would have no problem with passenger cars converted to MW service. That's probably not likely to come up often anyway.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 3/13/19 12:01 PM, John Hagen via Groups.Io wrote:

Doug,

There may have been a discussion here about allowing cranes and such here as Jack references, but I don’t recall it.

That doesn’t mean a darn thing as I don’t recall what I had for breakfast…… or if I had breakfast.

But, as usual, I do have an opinion. Of course, if there has been a hard rule made against it, I stand very much corrected.

To my way of thinking, MOW equipment should be included here. Yes, they are not revenue producing freight cars, but they are carriers of freight necessary for to the railroad’s operation.

Nit-pickers beware; I can get my back up and raise cane (My hurricane that is) if I hear all about the used passenger cars in company service or how a caboose doesn’t haul freight. Well, in MOW service, many a caboose did haul freight and, back in the day, I’d dare you to show me a freight train that did not need a caboose on it.

Besides I love rr cranes. And that’s my two cents, which is likely more than it’s worth.

John Hagen

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Doug Forbes
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:06 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] modeling a crane question

 

I have a few questions as to modeling a railroad crane/wrecker but I wanted to first make sure that this topic is appropriate for this group as its now a freight car per se.  Would someone give me a thumbs up or thumbs down before I proceed with my questions?