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Re: Vulcan Boxcar ends back on Shapeways

Brent Greer
 

Dr. Dave Campbell has re-released these ends on his Shapeways site:


The Vulcan vertical-rib end as used on the Wheeling 27000's has been added to my available products at Shapeways.


Brent


Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of David via Groups.Io <jaydeet2001@...>
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 9:49 AM
To: RealSTMFC@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Boxcar end
 
Vulcan corrugated end, as used on W&LE single-sheathed box cars. See:
https://realstmfc.groups.io/g/main/topic/25149059

David Thompson




Re: HO Wine Door Locks

al_brown03
 

FWIW, Wine door locks are catalogued on the current Westerfield site.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: HO Wine Door Locks

Tim O'Connor
 


I concur. I've used the Westerfield wine locks and they look very good.

One other possibility might be Arrowhead Models. I don't know whether Blaine offers detail
parts yet but I think the H39 hopper cars have that detail.

Tim O'


On 3/24/2019 12:44 AM, al_westerfield wrote:

The dies were cut for me by Grandt Line.  I don’’t know if the current owner was able to retrieve them when Grandt went out of business. – Al Westerfield





I would go with the Westerfield. They are both made for the H21 and the Westerfields are finer detailed. The Bowser part includes the side of the door as well as the latch.

Bruce Smith


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: The Keystone Modeler articles on modeling G26 gondolas

Steven D Johnson
 

Thank you, George, and Mike, for responding so quickly.  I’m sure there are others in the group who appreciate these as well.

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of George Hollwedel via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 5:03 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] The Keystone Modeler articles on modeling G26 gondolas

 

Here ya go Steve

 

Prototype N Scale Models (TM)
by George Hollwedel
2108 Buffalo Tundra Dr
Austin, TX 78754-5960

512-796-6883

proto.nscale@...

http://special.micro-trains.com/george-hollwedel.html
http://www.atlasrr.com/special.htm
http://intermountain-railway.com/n/sr/nsr.htm
http://www.bluford-shops.com/bluford_93_014.htm

 

 

 

On Saturday, March 23, 2019, 10:09:15 AM CDT, Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:

 

 

Group,

 

I’ve tried searching on-line for issues 9 and 10 of The Keystone Modeler, which have articles on modeling the  G26 gondola using the E&B Valley/Eastern Car Works kit.  Does anyone have pdf’s of these articles or links to them on-line?

 

Many thanks,

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

 


Re: HO Wine Door Locks

O Fenton Wells
 

I used the Westerfield Wine lock castings on the Southern ARA 70 ton 3 bay hoppers and they are very nice.
Just say'in
Fenton

On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 11:08 AM dahminator68 via Groups.Io <dahminator68=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Al & All:  The Wine lock dies were sent to me by Grandt Line before hey shut down.  We also received a good supply of Wine Locks (#1171 ) that should hold us until we get someone else to make them.

Thank you,
Andrew Dahm
Westerfieldmodels@...


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, March 23, 2019, 9:44 PM, al_westerfield <westerfieldalfred@...> wrote:

The dies were cut for me by Grandt Line.  I don’’t know if the current owner was able to retrieve them when Grandt went out of business. – Al Westerfield

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bruce Smith
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO Wine Door Locks

 

Mike,

 

I would go with the Westerfield. They are both made for the H21 and the Westerfields are finer detailed. The Bowser part includes the side of the door as well as the latch.

 

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of mike turner <yardcoolie1968@...>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 10:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] HO Wine Door Locks

 

Who makes the most accurate HO scale Wine door locks?

The target cars are various SOU steam era hoppers.

A search turned up these.

Westerfield 1171 wine door lock set of 4 $2.50

Bowser 1-74077 H21 left wine door lock $0.35

Bowser 1-74078 H21 right wine door lock $0.35

Others?

Thx.

Mike Turner

MP-Z35



 



--
Fenton Wells
250 Frye Rd
Pinehurst NC 28374
910-420-8106
srrfan1401@...


Re: HO Wine Door Locks

dahminator68
 

Hello Al & All:  The Wine lock dies were sent to me by Grandt Line before hey shut down.  We also received a good supply of Wine Locks (#1171 ) that should hold us until we get someone else to make them.

Thank you,
Andrew Dahm
Westerfieldmodels@...

On Saturday, March 23, 2019, 9:44 PM, al_westerfield <westerfieldalfred@...> wrote:

The dies were cut for me by Grandt Line.  I don’’t know if the current owner was able to retrieve them when Grandt went out of business. – Al Westerfield

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bruce Smith
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO Wine Door Locks

 

Mike,

 

I would go with the Westerfield. They are both made for the H21 and the Westerfields are finer detailed. The Bowser part includes the side of the door as well as the latch.

 

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of mike turner <yardcoolie1968@...>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 10:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] HO Wine Door Locks

 

Who makes the most accurate HO scale Wine door locks?

The target cars are various SOU steam era hoppers.

A search turned up these.

Westerfield 1171 wine door lock set of 4 $2.50

Bowser 1-74077 H21 left wine door lock $0.35

Bowser 1-74078 H21 right wine door lock $0.35

Others?

Thx.

Mike Turner

MP-Z35



 


Re: Ladder material?

vapeurchapelon
 

Hello Rich,
 
I remember Taurus Products brass caboose ladders:
 
https://www.oldpullman.ch/kleinteile-rollmaterial-metall/30256-707-101-ho-caboose-ladders-kit-.html
 
These certainly look much better than any stamped and bent "ladder strip".
 
Johannes
Modeling the early post-war years up to about 1953
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. März 2019 um 02:18 Uhr
Von: "Rich Gibson via Groups.Io" <richgibson89@...>
An: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Betreff: [RealSTMFC] Ladder material?
Speaking of ladders....
Does anyone currently manufacture metal ladder material in long pieces that can be cut to desired length?  I’ve been scratchbuilding cabooses and have found that I do not have the material to fabricate the ladders that include the rails that go up onto the roof. The individual ladder pieces need to be at least 13’ (HO) long so that the rungs can be removed along a portion and stiles bent into the roof. The only material I’ve found so far is stuff leftover from old wood kits. Ladders by Yarmouth model works are not long enough and Plastruct material does not bend sufficiently. Any ideas welcome. 

Rich Gibson
Golden, CO


Re: Kind of interesting CB&Q boxcar.

Rich C
 

There are a few other railroads that had these also, Santa Fe and New York Central to name a couple. Ted Culotta has an excellent kitbashing article in:




Rich Christie

On Saturday, March 23, 2019, 7:32:19 AM CDT, mopacfirst <ron.merrick@...> wrote:


Might be possible to combine the end door from a Proto boxcar with a Proto 50' single door body.

As a general practice, 50' single door cars with end doors were very rare, and the 1942 build date suggests something specifically built for a defense plant contract.  The hoist suggests something heavy like aircraft engines.

This car is probably well documented by Burlington specialists, so I hope one enlightens us.

Ron Merrick


Re: Ladders for freight cars

gtws00
 

Great article Lester. Some good modeling tips.
George Toman


Re: Ladder material?

John Sykes III
 

You can buy caboose ladders already made with the loop in the top as parts from Athearn.

-- John


Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (Arch Bar Trucks)

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 


Hi Dave,
 
There may be a typo in your email. I suspect I have the same photo, but the road number is PRR 570862, not 570826 as you stated in your email - 6 and 2 got reversed.
 
To confirm, my image is a broadside of the car, panted with circle Keystone, with a large gas holder tank in the left background of the image. And of course archbar trucks as you stated. Is yours the same?
 
The information I have on the image indicates the photo was taken Sep 1932.
 
Claus Schlund
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (Arch Bar Trucks)

Bruce:

My collection of X29 photos is very meager, and I have never seen a breakdown of the various lots of early cars that indicates which trucks were installed initially (but perhaps one exists?).  The builder's photos in RPCycdo suggest that it was not a chronological progression from arch-bars to 2D-F8s -- anything but.

That said, I have exactly TWO in-service photos known to be from from the 1930s.  The one of 570826 (RW = 3-31), and the attached Hagley photo that is dated 4-5-34 (my modeling year).  Atrociously small sample size, but both do sport arch-bars.

The one X29 that I have completed has 2D-F8s, but the next one?  Hmmm...

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: HO Wine Door Locks

 

The dies were cut for me by Grandt Line.  I don’’t know if the current owner was able to retrieve them when Grandt went out of business. – Al Westerfield

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bruce Smith
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:01 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] HO Wine Door Locks

 

Mike,

 

I would go with the Westerfield. They are both made for the H21 and the Westerfields are finer detailed. The Bowser part includes the side of the door as well as the latch.

 

Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of mike turner <yardcoolie1968@...>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 10:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] HO Wine Door Locks

 

Who makes the most accurate HO scale Wine door locks?

The target cars are various SOU steam era hoppers.

A search turned up these.

Westerfield 1171 wine door lock set of 4 $2.50

Bowser 1-74077 H21 left wine door lock $0.35

Bowser 1-74078 H21 right wine door lock $0.35

Others?

Thx.

Mike Turner

MP-Z35



 


Re: Ladder material?

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Rich,
 
Oregon Rail Supply used to offer such brass ladder stock.  It still shows up as Item 142 on the order form.  See: http://oregonrail.com/order.html.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Rich Gibson via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 9:18 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Ladder material?
 
Speaking of ladders....
Does anyone currently manufacture metal ladder material in long pieces that can be cut to desired length?  I’ve been scratchbuilding cabooses and have found that I do not have the material to fabricate the ladders that include the rails that go up onto the roof. The individual ladder pieces need to be at least 13’ (HO) long so that the rungs can be removed along a portion and stiles bent into the roof. The only material I’ve found so far is stuff leftover from old wood kits. Ladders by Yarmouth model works are not long enough and Plastruct material does not bend sufficiently. Any ideas welcome.

Rich Gibson
Golden, CO


Re: Ladder material?

Patrick Wade
 

Walthers used to, and may still, carry punched metal ladder stock that can be cut to any length. And caboose ladders is what I used it for.

Pat Wade
Santa Barbara, CA


On Mar 23, 2019, at 6:18 PM, Rich Gibson via Groups.Io <richgibson89@...> wrote:

Speaking of ladders....
Does anyone currently manufacture metal ladder material in long pieces that can be cut to desired length?  I’ve been scratchbuilding cabooses and have found that I do not have the material to fabricate the ladders that include the rails that go up onto the roof. The individual ladder pieces need to be at least 13’ (HO) long so that the rungs can be removed along a portion and stiles bent into the roof. The only material I’ve found so far is stuff leftover from old wood kits. Ladders by Yarmouth model works are not long enough and Plastruct material does not bend sufficiently. Any ideas welcome. 

Rich Gibson
Golden, CO


Ladder material?

Rich Gibson
 

Speaking of ladders....
Does anyone currently manufacture metal ladder material in long pieces that can be cut to desired length?  I’ve been scratchbuilding cabooses and have found that I do not have the material to fabricate the ladders that include the rails that go up onto the roof. The individual ladder pieces need to be at least 13’ (HO) long so that the rungs can be removed along a portion and stiles bent into the roof. The only material I’ve found so far is stuff leftover from old wood kits. Ladders by Yarmouth model works are not long enough and Plastruct material does not bend sufficiently. Any ideas welcome. 

Rich Gibson
Golden, CO


Re: The Keystone Modeler articles on modeling G26 gondolas

George Hollwedel
 

Here ya go Steve

Prototype N Scale Models (TM)
by George Hollwedel
2108 Buffalo Tundra Dr
Austin, TX 78754-5960
512-796-6883
proto.nscale@...
http://special.micro-trains.com/george-hollwedel.html
http://www.atlasrr.com/special.htm
http://intermountain-railway.com/n/sr/nsr.htm
http://www.bluford-shops.com/bluford_93_014.htm



On Saturday, March 23, 2019, 10:09:15 AM CDT, Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:


Group,

 

I’ve tried searching on-line for issues 9 and 10 of The Keystone Modeler, which have articles on modeling the  G26 gondola using the E&B Valley/Eastern Car Works kit.  Does anyone have pdf’s of these articles or links to them on-line?

 

Many thanks,

 

Steve Johnson

 

 

 


Re: Ladders for freight cars

gary laakso
 

Lester, an inspiring and very practical article.  Thank you very much for posting! 

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lester Breuer
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 4:55 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Ladders for freight cars

 

I have added a new post on my blog focusing on prototype ladder standards for freight cars and how I add or make ladders on my freight cars.  Photos and writeup are on my blog I started to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If you would like to take a look please do at the following:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


Ladders for freight cars

Lester Breuer
 

I have added a new post on my blog focusing on prototype ladder standards for freight cars and how I add or make ladders on my freight cars.  Photos and writeup are on my blog I started to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company.  If you would like to take a look please do at the following:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/

Lester Breuer


Re: Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (Arch Bar Trucks)

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Dave,
 
Regarding a breakdown of various lots of early cars indicating truck types, I’m sure what you mean by “lot” as opposed to year built, but there is a breakdown on Page 10 of the March 2004 TKM (No. 8).  That breakdown is by “Group” (A through I) as defined by Dave Soderblom that lists starting and ending numbers in the series for each group, the year(s) the group was built, and the number of cars in the group when built and per ORER data for 1940, 1950, 1953, 1959, 1963 and 1968.  The next page has a breakdown by year(s) built showing body type, door type, door track, doorstop(s), end construction. brake system, hand brake, and, finally, trucks, both “As Built” and “In-Service.”
 
That two part article, incidentally, was written by Ben Hom and provides a wealth of information on these cars, including a July 1924 builder’s photo of PRR 569430 with 2D-F1 arch bar trucks.  (That car is just begging to be modeled.)  Part 2 begins on Page 10 of the April 2004 TKM and pertains largely to X29 boxcars in express service.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Dave Parker via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 6:23 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Reservations Needed: PRR X29 Boxcar (Arch Bar Trucks)
 
Bruce:

My collection of X29 photos is very meager, and I have never seen a breakdown of the various lots of early cars that indicates which trucks were installed initially (but perhaps one exists?).  The builder's photos in RPCycdo suggest that it was not a chronological progression from arch-bars to 2D-F8s -- anything but.

That said, I have exactly TWO in-service photos known to be from from the 1930s.  The one of 570826 (RW = 3-31), and the attached Hagley photo that is dated 4-5-34 (my modeling year).  Atrociously small sample size, but both do sport arch-bars.

The one X29 that I have completed has 2D-F8s, but the next one?  Hmmm...

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: HO Wine Door Locks

Bruce Smith
 

Mike,


I would go with the Westerfield. They are both made for the H21 and the Westerfields are finer detailed. The Bowser part includes the side of the door as well as the latch.


Regards,

Bruce Smith

Auburn, AL




From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of mike turner <yardcoolie1968@...>
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 10:02 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] HO Wine Door Locks
 
Who makes the most accurate HO scale Wine door locks?

The target cars are various SOU steam era hoppers.

A search turned up these.

Westerfield 1171 wine door lock set of 4 $2.50

Bowser 1-74077 H21 left wine door lock $0.35

Bowser 1-74078 H21 right wine door lock $0.35

Others?

Thx.

Mike Turner

MP-Z35




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