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Re: Gondola Load

Bruce Smith
 

Bruce,

Thanks for the more high res view, but it doesn’t really appear to change anything from our January discussion. It appears to either be a penstock, or some similar water piping or part of some sort of ventilation system. Looking at the boxy parts on the end, they have some irregularities that make me think that they might be temporary protection for something as opposed to a permanent part of whatever this is.

Regards

Bruce


Bruce F. Smith            

Auburn, AL

"Some days you are the bug, some days you are the windshield."




On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:50 PM, Bruce Griffin <bdg1210@...> wrote:

Group,

John King offered a much higher resolution scan for consideration. The load and gon are much clearer than in the scan I shared at first. The load is headed west from Baltimore in 1952 about 14 miles west of Baltimore. Any additional thoughts on origin or contents?  

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD

<King Sentinel Photos OML2.jpg>


Re: WP Boxcar was Gondola Load

Bruce Griffin
 

Friends,

The WP car is coupled to boxcar GN 47384 (see attached photo) from the same photo sequence. They are on a siding headed to the Doughnut Corporation of America, a plant which milled and mixed grains and dry ingredients for doughnut flour and produced doughnut machinery for shops. Photos from this large mill show boxcars from across the country, so modeling It on my layout allows for cars from all over to be present. Any additional photos of the WP car would be appreciated. 

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD


view of the trackside unloading equipment for a bulk oil dealership

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
We have a nice view of the trackside unloading equipment for a bulkj oil dealership at the link below...
 
 
No steam era freight cars on the siding, but there surely will be before long.
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Gondola Load

Dennis Storzek
 

Related to air handling, could also be a plenum to conduct flue gasses from a furnace to a smoke stack.
Dennis Storzek


Re: Gondola Load

RICH CHAPIN
 

Has look of a large air-handling system. Structure doesn't look heavy enough [i.e, the cross-sections of the sheet metal] to handle water. Nice shot, love gon loads, Thx

Rich Chapin
Basking Ridge, NJ


Re: Gondola Load

Paul Woods <paul@...>
 

As an engineer who has built all kinds of pipework for handling water, and all kinds of ductwork for handling air, I would lean towards the gon loads being the latter.  The bracing seems too light for water piping.  The large boxy structures remind me of acoustic enclosures I designed for ships, to prevent the unholy roar of ventilation fans from reverberating along the sheet-metal ducting.

Regards
Paul Woods

Whangarei, NZ


Re: a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

John and Friends,

I wonder if the two cars to the left of the locomotives in this view are Western Union. They appear to be converted passenger or head end cars. This is Roper Yard on the D&RGW, circa 1947. Not a diesel in sight!

http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/shot%20of%20mo/shotofmoaug02_1.html

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 3/31/19 11:05 PM, mofwcaboose via Groups.Io wrote:
Nice find.

Until about 1914, Western Union line forces were often housed in camp cars leased from the railroads they were working along, since Western Union telegraph lines nearly always paralleled railroads. There are no markings visible on these cars to show if they belonged to Western Union or not. Some of the first Western Union cars may have been converted from boxcars, before they began to use old Pullmans.. Thus there is a good chance this is a very early Western Union outfit.

One advantage of having their own cars was that they could be readily transferred from one railroad to another., which obviously could not be done with railroad-owned cars. Another reason was that railroad-owned camp cars of the time were often rather spartan. With their own cars, the company could provide better accomodations.

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...>
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 9:15 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation

Hi List Members,
 
We were recently discussing the Ambroid Western Union car.
 
For those interested in seeing the whole train, have a look at the image below.
 
Unfortunately the cars do not appear to match the Ambroid model.
 
Still, a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation.
 
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Gondola Load

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Very interesting indeed. It is a Mt. Vernon 40', 10'6" IH AAR boxcar with 6' doors, part of series 20201-20550 built in 1945. It would have been painted FCR with "white" lettering (called "aluminum because of its pigment, but appearing white) and the square "Feather River Route" herald in black-and-white.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 3/31/19 10:18 PM, Tony Thompson wrote:
The WP box car on the siding is interesting.
Tony Thompson 


On Mar 31, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Bruce Griffin <bdg1210@...> wrote:

Group,

John King offered a much higher resolution scan for consideration. The load and gon are much clearer than in the scan I shared at first. The load is headed west from Baltimore in 1952 about 14 miles west of Baltimore. Any additional thoughts on origin or contents?  

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD

<King Sentinel Photos OML2.jpg>


Re: Gondola Load

Fred Jansz
 

Tim and others interested,
WP 20243 also caught my eye immediately of course.
A Western Pacific car on the B&O!
Who would have thaught that.
However 20243 is not from the 20001-20200 'shorty' 9'6" batch (issued by Speedwitch (K-114, white or silver lettering), I own 3 of these kits, all built now), but from the  1945-built Mt Vernon batch WP 20201-20550 which has the 10'6" IH.
regards, Fred Jansz


Re: Gondola Load

Ralph W. Brown
 

Hi Tim,
 
Given the size, I suspect a sluiceway or penstock for a dam is more likely.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Tim O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 11:28 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Gondola Load
 

looks like industrial-size duct work... for moving air. lots of it.

WP 20243 is a 9-6 IH version of a 1937 AAR box car (normally 10-0 IH)

Anyone ever make resin kits for the "low height" 1937 box cars of the WP and ATSF (Bx-26)?

Tim O'Connor



On 3/31/2019 9:50 PM, Bruce Griffin wrote:

Group,

John King offered a much higher resolution scan for consideration. The load and gon are much clearer than in the scan I shared at first. The load is headed west from Baltimore in 1952 about 14 miles west of Baltimore. Any additional thoughts on origin or contents? 

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD

Attachments:

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--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Gondola Load

Brent Greer
 

Looks more like a component for an electricity generating water turbine system for a dam somewhere

Brent

________________________________
Dr. J. Brent Greer


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 11:28:41 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Gondola Load
 

looks like industrial-size duct work... for moving air. lots of it.

WP 20243 is a 9-6 IH version of a 1937 AAR box car (normally 10-0 IH)

Anyone ever make resin kits for the "low height" 1937 box cars of the WP and ATSF (Bx-26)?

Tim O'Connor



On 3/31/2019 9:50 PM, Bruce Griffin wrote:

Group,

John King offered a much higher resolution scan for consideration. The load and gon are much clearer than in the scan I shared at first. The load is headed west from Baltimore in 1952 about 14 miles west of Baltimore. Any additional thoughts on origin or contents?  

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD

Attachments:

_._,

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Gondola Load

Tim O'Connor
 


looks like industrial-size duct work... for moving air. lots of it.

WP 20243 is a 9-6 IH version of a 1937 AAR box car (normally 10-0 IH)

Anyone ever make resin kits for the "low height" 1937 box cars of the WP and ATSF (Bx-26)?

Tim O'Connor



On 3/31/2019 9:50 PM, Bruce Griffin wrote:

Group,

John King offered a much higher resolution scan for consideration. The load and gon are much clearer than in the scan I shared at first. The load is headed west from Baltimore in 1952 about 14 miles west of Baltimore. Any additional thoughts on origin or contents?  

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD

Attachments:

_._,

--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation

mofwcaboose <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
 

Nice find.

Until about 1914, Western Union line forces were often housed in camp cars leased from the railroads they were working along, since Western Union telegraph lines nearly always paralleled railroads. There are no markings visible on these cars to show if they belonged to Western Union or not. Some of the first Western Union cars may have been converted from boxcars, before they began to use old Pullmans.. Thus there is a good chance this is a very early Western Union outfit.

One advantage of having their own cars was that they could be readily transferred from one railroad to another., which obviously could not be done with railroad-owned cars. Another reason was that railroad-owned camp cars of the time were often rather spartan. With their own cars, the company could provide better accomodations.

John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL

-----Original Message-----
From: Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) <claus@...>
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2019 9:15 pm
Subject: [RealSTMFC] a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation

Hi List Members,
 
We were recently discussing the Ambroid Western Union car.
 
For those interested in seeing the whole train, have a look at the image below.
 
Unfortunately the cars do not appear to match the Ambroid model.
 
Still, a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation.
 
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Gondola Load

Tony Thompson
 

The WP box car on the siding is interesting.
Tony Thompson 


On Mar 31, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Bruce Griffin <bdg1210@...> wrote:

Group,

John King offered a much higher resolution scan for consideration. The load and gon are much clearer than in the scan I shared at first. The load is headed west from Baltimore in 1952 about 14 miles west of Baltimore. Any additional thoughts on origin or contents?  

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD

<King Sentinel Photos OML2.jpg>


Re: Gondola Load

Bruce Griffin
 

Group,

John King offered a much higher resolution scan for consideration. The load and gon are much clearer than in the scan I shared at first. The load is headed west from Baltimore in 1952 about 14 miles west of Baltimore. Any additional thoughts on origin or contents?  

Best Regards,
Bruce D. Griffin
Ashland, MD


months back, we were discussing cotton bales

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
A while back, months back, we were discussing cotton bales.
 
Here is a good image of one...
 
 
Claus Schlund
 


Free shipping-10 new GN 40' steel box car kits by Intermountain HO

Andy Carlson
 


Hello folks-

I have 10 new Great Northern HO box car kits, all 40'cars, and all GN. Mint, new from the Duane Buck collection. they are as follows-

1) IM #41001-26 GN 12 panel as-delivered mineral red scheme w/lg sideways goat medallion
2) IM #41001-28
3) IM #41001-29
4) IM  #41001-27
5) IM # GN-12 special run 37 AAR boxcar mineral red w/lg sideways goat
6) IM #48453-10 40' PS-1 mineral red lg sideways goat
7) IM #48453-06
8) IM #48453-07
9) IM #48453-08
10) IM #48453-11

These cars are all mineral red, and are in schemes for these box cars when they were delivered new. These would be useful for late 1940's era, up until the merger if heavy weathering were applied. all 10 cars have different numbers. 5 12 panels, 4 PS-1's and 1 '37 AAR (though GN got some '37 AAR 40'box cars as leases, these were after 1960, so for our era, bogus).

Offered for $88, and shipping is included to the US. I accept checks and money orders. With a small fee PayPal is accepted, as well.

If interested, contact me off-list at <midcentury at sbcglobal dot net>
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation

Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
 

Hi List Members,
 
We were recently discussing the Ambroid Western Union car.
 
For those interested in seeing the whole train, have a look at the image below.
 
Unfortunately the cars do not appear to match the Ambroid model.
 
Still, a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation.
 
 
Claus Schlund
 


Re: Selling messages on the STMFC

Michael Gross
 

Dear Mike,

I appreciate your clarifying the policy.  I admit, I have not always confined my sales announcements to the Friday noon to Sunday midnight timeframe.  And, as Groups IO has not made it obvious—at least to this dummkopf—how to reply to a single member, your suggestion for the seller to include an email address, using AT and DOT, should make it simpler for all of us.  Thanks for the oversight.
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Clearwater Car Shops goings on. . .

Michael Gross
 

The work force at Clearwater Car Shops clearly never takes a day off.  Well done, Bill!
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA

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