Throwback Tuesday: Ulrich GS Gon Ad, Model Railroader, October 1959
Benjamin Hom
Ulrich GS Gon ad, October 1959 issue of Model Railroader. Ben Hom
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Re: Photo Study: Lackawanna Gondola 67198
Rob M.
My, my. Bulldog Macks and fabricated steel everywhere. The end shot of the gon on the curve is interesting. The off-tracking due to the radii is oh so evident (photo *5042).
Rob Mondichak.
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Re: Photo Study: Lackawanna Gondola 67198
Schuyler Larrabee
According to my April 1950 ORER, 16 of these cars remained in service. They’re noted as having wood floors, but no word on whether the sides were sill wood or had been upgraded to steel.
Schuyler
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io
Several good photos of this car: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-29-18/X5040.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-29-18/X5043.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-29-18/X5042.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-29-18/X5041.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-28-18/X5039.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-28-18/X5038.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-28-18/X5037.jpg Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: WP HO Car List
WILLIAM PARDIE
YEAH! Now all I have to do is to figure out how to access "files", Technologically Challenged: Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> Date: 4/1/19 2:43 PM (GMT-10:00) To: RealSTMFC@groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] WP HO Car List Thank you all for your input to my Western Pacific HO Car List. Thanks to the help so many of you offered, version 5 is now complete with nearly all the changes suggested. I will post it to the files section of our web site in a day or two. This all I will do with it for now, but in a year or so I may do another update. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: WP HO Car List
WILLIAM PARDIE
YEAH! Now all I have to do is to figure out how to access "files", Technologically Challenged: Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> Date: 4/1/19 2:43 PM (GMT-10:00) To: RealSTMFC@groups.io Subject: [RealSTMFC] WP HO Car List Thank you all for your input to my Western Pacific HO Car List. Thanks to the help so many of you offered, version 5 is now complete with nearly all the changes suggested. I will post it to the files section of our web site in a day or two. This all I will do with it for now, but in a year or so I may do another update. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: Gondola Load
mopacfirst
Gratefully accepted.
RG7
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WP HO Car List
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Friends,
Thank you all for your input to my Western Pacific HO Car List. Thanks to the help so many of you offered, version 5 is now complete with nearly all the changes suggested. I will post it to the files section of our web site in a day or two. This all I will do with it for now, but in a year or so I may do another update. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Re: Gondola Load
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Ron,
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You need a copy of my WP list. The one attached is the final version for now, with quite a few changes from the one I sent last week. Yours Aye, Garth
On 4/1/19 7:21 PM, mopacfirst wrote:
Yes, sorry for the confusion. I should have known that a 1945-built car wouldn't have been the same as the prototype of the Branchline car.
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Re: Gondola Load
mopacfirst
Yes, sorry for the confusion. I should have known that a 1945-built car wouldn't have been the same as the prototype of the Branchline car.
The car I'm thinking of doesn't show up today so it must be in storage. But I did find a different Branchline car, factory numbered 20558, in a repaint scheme (the Western way with large initials) with a shop date of 1961. I believe this is the same series of car. I need to find that other one and weather it a little more, to represent a 1960-era condition. Ron Merrick
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Re: Gondola Load
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Ron,
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Are you talking about the WP boxcar? I'm not sure a good version has ever been offered lettered WP by anyone (lots of Athearns, but they had the wrong square corners). The most correct model is Intermountain stock number 40899, an undecorated AAR 10' 6" boxcar with 6' doors and 5/5 Dreadnaught W-section ends. The Branchline car was their stock number 1612, a 1947 car with 4/4 improved Dreadnaught ends and a 7' door. Branchline's car came with silver lettering. It should have been white, and this was corrected on the special run Branchline did for the PCR NMRA. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
On 4/1/19 1:18 PM, mopacfirst wrote:
Is this the Branchline model? I built one a few years back, but I'm not sure that car is on the layout currently for me to check, and I can't immediately find the old Branchline catalog pages. I'm not sure Atlas has re-run this car, but the Branchline kits show up all the time on eBay, or at least the ones where the number produced was in excess of the number actually sold or built. Some less-common kits don't show up very often, but I haven't looked for this one since the one I built is in proportion to the number I needed. I think I've probably built just about all the ones I really need, having rejected a few that just aren't close enough to be correct for me, but I counted recently and I think I'm over 70 finished ones, just over half of the total number of XM cars in service on my railroad. I'd probably still buy a few more, especially if I want parts for something.
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Re: a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation
mofwcaboose <MOFWCABOOSE@...>
I don't think these are Western Union cars. In fact, they might not be occupied camp cars at all. No smoke jacks or ventilators visible. They do look like they were originally open-end passenger cars that had the end platforms removed and the roofs cut back to match.
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To my eyes, they most resemble early D&RGW camp cars that were built new around 1880. The last example sat on narrow-gauge trucks at Durango for many years. If it still exists, it is more then likely the oldest surviving camp car in the world.
John C. La Rue, Jr.
Bonita Springs, FL
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From: Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> To: main <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> Sent: Mon, Apr 1, 2019 5:08 am Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] a fun glimpse into the Western Union operation
John and Friends,
I wonder if the two cars to the left of the locomotives in this view are Western Union. They appear to be converted passenger or head end cars. This is Roper Yard on the D&RGW, circa 1947. Not a diesel in sight! http://www.steamerafreightcars.com/gallery/shot%20of%20mo/shotofmoaug02_1.html Yours Aye, Garth Groff
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Photo Study: Lackawanna Gondola 67198
Several good photos of this car: http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-29-18/X5040.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-29-18/X5043.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-29-18/X5042.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-29-18/X5041.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-28-18/X5039.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-28-18/X5038.jpg http://lists.railfan.net/erielackphoto.cgi?erielack-08-28-18/X5037.jpg Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Gondola Load
mopacfirst
Sorry, the replies get separated from the original message by a day or two, but "this" refers to the WP car on the doughnut siding from the B&O photo.
Ron Merrick
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Re: Gondola Load
mopacfirst
Is this the Branchline model? I built one a few years back, but I'm not sure that car is on the layout currently for me to check, and I can't immediately find the old Branchline catalog pages. I'm not sure Atlas has re-run this car, but the Branchline kits show up all the time on eBay, or at least the ones where the number produced was in excess of the number actually sold or built. Some less-common kits don't show up very often, but I haven't looked for this one since the one I built is in proportion to the number I needed. I think I've probably built just about all the ones I really need, having rejected a few that just aren't close enough to be correct for me, but I counted recently and I think I'm over 70 finished ones, just over half of the total number of XM cars in service on my railroad. I'd probably still buy a few more, especially if I want parts for something.
Ron Merrick
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Re: reporting marks for the 40ft single sheathed auto box car
anthony wagner
My bad it should be 1-1-50 ORER. TW
On Monday, April 1, 2019, 11:52:08 AM CDT, anthony wagner <anycw1@...> wrote:
NJI&I, a subsidiary of the Wabash. poss ibly 3500-3599 1 car in my 1-1-80 ORER. I'd guess its a clone of several thousand WAB cars in various 40000 thru 49000 number series with 11' or 12' doors as both ordinary XM box cars or XAR auto or XME and XAP auto parts cars. Tony Wagner
On Monday, April 1, 2019, 10:17:05 AM CDT, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:
Hi List Members,
Any thoughts on the reporting marks for the 40ft
single sheathed auto box car shown in ght eimage linked below? The resolution is
just not quite good enough...
Thanks for ideas in advance.
Claus Schlund
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Re: reporting marks for the 40ft single sheathed auto box car
anthony wagner
NJI&I, a subsidiary of the Wabash. poss ibly 3500-3599 1 car in my 1-1-80 ORER. I'd guess its a clone of several thousand WAB cars in various 40000 thru 49000 number series with 11' or 12' doors as both ordinary XM box cars or XAR auto or XME and XAP auto parts cars. Tony Wagner
On Monday, April 1, 2019, 10:17:05 AM CDT, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) <claus@...> wrote:
Hi List Members,
Any thoughts on the reporting marks for the 40ft
single sheathed auto box car shown in ght eimage linked below? The resolution is
just not quite good enough...
Thanks for ideas in advance.
Claus Schlund
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Re: Gondola Load
mopacfirst
Coming from a fellow piping engineer, I agree the cylindrical section (what I would call a spool piece) and the rectangular section are probably for air or exhaust gas rather than for water. If there are two symmetrical or identical loads, my guess is that these were a subcontract for something specific in a bigger facility.
Ron Merrick
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Re: Gondola Load
Nelson Moyer
Boomer Pete is a pen name used by Al Kalmbach in Model Railroader articles. He used to primarily for teaching purposes to encourage prototypical modeling and operation.
Nelson Moyer
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Bill Welch
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2019 9:03 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Gondola Load
Some of us have no idea who Boomer Pete is/was. Wondering if there is a way on the opening page of this group to have a yet to be authored and agreed upon "Ten Commandments of Freight Cars?"
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Re: reporting marks for the 40ft single sheathed auto box car
Benjamin Hom
Claus Schlund asked: "Any thoughts on the reporting marks for the 40ft single sheathed auto box car shown in [the] image linked below? The resolution is just not quite good enough..." https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM86520 NJI&I (New Jersey, Indiana, & Illinois), a subsidiary of the Wabash. I don't have ORER info with me at work today, but it looks like a potential kitbash of the Walthers 50 ft fantasy automobile boxcar. Ben Hom
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reporting marks for the 40ft single sheathed auto box car
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi List Members,
Any thoughts on the reporting marks for the 40ft
single sheathed auto box car shown in ght eimage linked below? The resolution is
just not quite good enough...
Thanks for ideas in advance.
Claus Schlund
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