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Re: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
Dennis Storzek
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 09:53 PM, Douglas Harding wrote:
with a string of dark colored reefers lettered Carnation.When I see period photos of reefers where the black lettering disappears into the car side (note there appears to be two lines of lettering under the name) I immediately think orthochromatic film, and assume the sides are really yellow. Orthochromatic film characteristically renders yellows as very dark gray. If the sides were actually painted this dark, the lettering would have been a light color for contrast. I think the cars are really standard 'reefer' yellow with FCR ends (note the end lettering is white). Dennis Storzek
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Re: Yeah, More Resin Coming
Donald B. Valentine
Begging your pardon Charlie but you have made the same mistake that many of us often make of not reading all that is presented. The National Scale Car announcement makes it clear that their first intent is to produce HO Scale mini-kits to enable modelers to use commonly available kits for conversion into more accurate National Steel Car prototypes built for the CNR and CPR with NSC III ends between 1954 and 1956. How much more clkear can they be? My best, Don Valentine
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Re: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
Richard Townsend
I’ve seen the URTX and FGE cars. They’re yellow with a single milk can. The Athearn car is white with two milk cans.
I’ve also seen a photo of a Carnation reefer that looks nothing like any of the above. It’s in the Carnation corporate history from last century some time (I don’t have access to my copy at this time to describe it).
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Re: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
I have not been able to open the links Clause has shared. But here is a photo containing some Carnation Milk reefers. It is of the Pacific Coast Condensed Milk Co plant of Oregon ILL., with a string of dark colored reefers lettered Carnation. They don’t match the Athearn scheme, but are Carnation reefers.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
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Re: SEEKING HELP ON AUTO CAR UNDERFRAME
The cars may (probably?) have had the chain tubes like other SP A-50 class box cars, but other than that I expect the underframes were of conventional AAR design. Tim O'
On 4/18/2019 11:05 PM, WILLIAM PARDIE
wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Yeah, More Resin Coming
Jim Gates
It says on the page their kits are HO scale.
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On Thu, 4/18/19, Charlie Vlk <cvlk@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Yeah, More Resin Coming To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Date: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 2:42 PM All-Interesting that a company would develop a website and not state the scale that their product targets.HO may be a default assumption but there are modelers in other scales Charlie Vlk
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SEEKING HELP ON AUTO CAR UNDERFRAME
WILLIAM PARDIE
I have posted a question several times looking for help on the underframe layout for Southern Pacific A-50-16 40' auto car. This is one of the very few times that I have not received a reply. I may get lucky if I expanded my search a bit. This car was built in 1947 by Pressed Steel Car Co. Possibly someone knows about a similar car built by Pressed Steel Co. at the same time that would probably have shared the same underframe. Thanks in advance for any leads: Bill Pardie Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message -------- From: Dennis Storzek <destorzek@...> Date: 4/4/19 1:29 PM (GMT-10:00) To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] boxcar flour loading topic Dennis Storzek
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Re: Yeah, More Resin Coming
Charlie the 2nd paragraph on their home page states their first release is HO scale. And if you bothered to read the “about” link you will learn their primary focus is HO scale, but they do plan to offer products in other scales.
Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Charlie Vlk
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2019 2:43 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Yeah, More Resin Coming
All- Interesting that a company would develop a website and not state the scale that their product targets. HO may be a default assumption but there are modelers in other scales…. Charlie Vlk
RESINATOR ALERT: Another way to be separated from your money—New Resin Company launches—http://nationalscalecar.com/
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Re: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
Rupert Gamlen
See Burlington Bulletin 28 page 26
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Friday, 19 April 2019 12:00 p.m. To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
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Re: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
I've yet to see a photo of any prototype "Carnation" billboard paint scheme. If they existed it would have been most likely before the 1930's.
On 4/18/2019 5:02 PM, Claus Schlund
\(HGM\) wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
BRIAN PAUL EHNI
That ginormous URL doesn’t open anything.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of "Claus Schlund \(HGM\)" <claus@...>
Hi Richard, Tony, and List Members,
I assume we are trying to compare the Athearn body and paint scheme shown at the link below...
with the Carnation wood reefers shown in the rediculously long link below...
Is that right?
Claus Schlund
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Re: Scratchbuilding a car in styrene
Charlie Vlk
All- My off-topic inquiry did reveal that lapped profile boards did make it into car interiors and floors for their intrinsic ability to provide a tighter car for grain and other loads. And as somebody mentioned the term I was really thinking of was “lapstrake”. I didn’t expect to see a website dedicated to Joanna’s not shiplap and I’m happy I asked. Thanks, Charlie Vlk
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Re: Chicagoland FGEX Reefer
Great looking car, Bob. I have one to build and will try your clever technique on the scribing issue. Thanks for sharing with us. Jim Kubanick
On Thursday, April 18, 2019, 11:40:22 AM EDT, Michael Gross <ActorMichaelGross@...> wrote:
Very nicely done, and very innovative! -- Michael Gross Pasadena, CA
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Re: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Oops, the first link was broken, let me try that
again...
I assume we are trying to compare the Athearn body
and paint scheme shown at the link below...
with the Carnation wood reefers shown in the
rediculously long link below...
Is that right?
Claus Schlund
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Re: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
Tony Thompson
Claus Schlund wrote:
Nothing at this link, Claus. But I am familiar with the white Athearn reefer scheme. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
Tony Thompson
On Apr 18, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Claus Schlund \(HGM\) wrote:
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is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Richard, Tony, and List Members,
I assume we are trying to compare the Athearn body
and paint scheme shown at the link below...
with the Carnation wood reefers shown in the
rediculously long link below...
Is that right?
Claus Schlund
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Re: Yeah, More Resin Coming
Charlie Vlk
All- Interesting that a company would develop a website and not state the scale that their product targets. HO may be a default assumption but there are modelers in other scales…. Charlie Vlk
RESINATOR ALERT: Another way to be separated from your money—New Resin Company launches—http://nationalscalecar.com/
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Re: Throwback Thursday: Athearn Rolling Stock Ad, Model Railroader, December 1962
Tony Thompson
Richard Townsend wrote:
A question I have asked before, but never gotten a suitable answer: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?Certainly not on the Athearn body. There was a similar though not identical scheme on a pre-1934 billboard car. I suspect Athearn winged it on that one, possibly using current Carnation advertising. Tony Thompson Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA 2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705 www.signaturepress.com (510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@... Publishers of books on railroad history
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Re: Throwback Thursday: Athearn Rolling Stock Ad, Model Railroader, December 1962
Richard Townsend
A question I have asked before, but never gotten a suitable answer: is there a prototype for the paint scheme on the Carnation reefer?
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