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Re: ex-ATSF Class Fe-13 Auto Boxcars on the StJ&LC (was There were not a lot of 50 foot boxcars around in 1929)

Tim O'Connor
 


aren't they are available online?


On 5/9/2019 2:54 PM, tyesac@... via Groups.Io wrote:
It would be nice if the PDS sheets that came in the Sunshine kits could be offered up for some amount.  They had a wealth of information on those cars he offered kits for.

Tom Casey  
Al Westerfield was fortunate to find a capable and competent buyer for his product line in Andrew Dahm. Al was also able to work with Andrew for an extended period of time to get Andrew up to speed. This latter is critically important, and of course it wasn't possible with Sunshine. I think that, as much as anything, is why the Sunshine line wasn't picked up. 

Tom Madden


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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts

Re: ex-ATSF Class Fe-13 Auto Boxcars on the StJ&LC (was There were not a lot of 50 foot boxcars around in 1929)

tyesac@aol.com <tyesac@...>
 

It would be nice if the PDS sheets that came in the Sunshine kits could be offered up for some amount.  They had a wealth of information on those cars he offered kits for.

Tom Casey  
Al Westerfield was fortunate to find a capable and competent buyer for his product line in Andrew Dahm. Al was also able to work with Andrew for an extended period of time to get Andrew up to speed. This latter is critically important, and of course it wasn't possible with Sunshine. I think that, as much as anything, is why the Sunshine line wasn't picked up. 

Tom Madden
 



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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ex-ATSF Class Fe-13 Auto Boxcars on the StJ&LC (was There were not a lot of 50 foot boxcars around in 1929)

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 10:55 AM, Donald B. Valentine wrote:
What became of all the masters for the Sunshine Models?  [snip]  It is a shame that someone cannot acquire them and offer the Sunshine
Kits again.
Original patterns for flat casting can take a real beating so it's really moot where they are now. And in most cases they need to be reworked to bring them up to the detail level we've come to expect today. We've discussed this before - the pattern makers retained the rights to the patterns. Frank Hodina (Resin Car Works) has re-introduced a  number of models formerly offered by Sunshine, but in each case first generation flat resin castings were extensively reworked and redetailed to create new one-piece body patterns. The IC chisel side hopper, GN composite wood sheathed boxcar (patterns by Frank) and Santa Fe Rr-35/36/39/40 reefer (patterns by Charlie Slater) have been reintroduced. Also the 8000 gallon insulated tank car. Sunshine's version was a bear to assemble, so the RCW kit is based on completely new patterns.

Al Westerfield was fortunate to find a capable and competent buyer for his product line in Andrew Dahm. Al was also able to work with Andrew for an extended period of time to get Andrew up to speed. This latter is critically important, and of course it wasn't possible with Sunshine. I think that, as much as anything, is why the Sunshine line wasn't picked up. 

Tom Madden
 

Re: ex-ATSF Class Fe-13 Auto Boxcars on the StJ&LC (was There were not a lot of 50 foot boxcars around in 1929)

Tom Madden
 

On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 10:55 AM, Donald B. Valentine wrote:
What became of all the masters for the Sunshine Models?  [snip]  It is a shame that someone cannot acquire them and offer the Sunshine
Kits again.
Original patterns for flat casting can take a real beating so it's really moot where they are now. And in most cases they need to be reworked to bring them up to the detail level we've come to expect today. We've discussed this before - the pattern makers retained the rights to the patterns. Frank Hodina (Resin Car Works) has re-introduced a  number of models formerly offered by Sunshine, but in each case first generation flat resin castings were extensively reworked and redetailed to create new one-piece body patterns. The IC chisel side hopper, GN composite wood sheathed boxcar (patterns by Frank) and Santa Fe Rr-35/36/39/40 reefer (patterns by Charlie Slater) have been reintroduced. Also the 8000 gallon insulated tank car. Sunshine's version was a bear to assemble, so the RCW kit is based on completely new patterns.

Al Westerfield was fortunate to find a capable and competent buyer for his product line in Andrew Dahm. Al was also able to work with Andrew for an extended period of time to get Andrew up to speed. This latter is critically important, and of course it wasn't possible with Sunshine. I think that, as much as anything, is why the Sunshine line wasn't picked up. 

Tom Madden
 

Re: Greif Miniatures Realistic Light Lens

Mikebrock
 

 

Bill Welch writes:

 

Didn't cabooses have lights on them?

 

In our period, 1900-1960, lights carried by cabooses were commonly produced by lanterns…which are certainly included in the STMFC. Unfortunately, I cannot find a reference to cabooses in the website. Of perhaps more interest is a lengthy  reference to Polyscale paints.  

Mike Brock

Re: Fw: [wyodivops] Spike 150

Tony Thompson
 

Amen.
Tony Thompson 


On May 8, 2019, at 9:55 PM, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:

Hey guys---
There are numerous sites and social media places to discuss the rebirth of the Big Boy. Can't we seek that out ourselves without it clutering up this site????

Enough!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 8:42:38 PM PDT, Allen Montgomery via Groups.Io <sandbear75@...> wrote:


Oh no. We're still gonna party like its 1869.


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:35 PM, Matt Goodman via Groups.Io
You’ve left for home already?  :)

We also caught it four times today - Evanston, the top of Echo Canyon, bottom of Echo Canyon, Echo and Uinta. Nice. 

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio

Sent from my mobile

On May 8, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Allen Montgomery via Groups.Io <sandbear75@...> wrote:





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Subject: [wyodivops] Spike 150
Welcome to the Wasatch. The dandelions are blooming, aspens leafing out in the warmer hollows, cranes and ducks are feeding off the plowed fields and the snow is coming down. At 8:20 a.m. we first caught the excursion train at the top of the grade. It was 34 degrees with a driving sleet when 4014 crested the grade at Wasatch. The steam and smoke blended immediately into the grey and white sky. It went by and we were off. Thus began the great leap frog race down to Ogden. This should have been an Olympic event in park city in 2002. We caught it four times and each time the crowd grew to more ridiculous proportions. Of course, this was my first time doing something like this, so to me it was unreal. Thank goodness I know the area and was able to get us to downtown Ogden without having to deal with the 25 mph traffic surge that clogged the freeway. I innocently wanted to show Lenny and Nick riverdale yard on the way in, and to our surprise, the was 4014 sitting right next to the road. So that could be considered the 5th time we caught it. 
So, we made it. After hanging out with everyone from Dave Houston, William Kratvilles daughter, retired engineers from several railroads and Trains Magazine on a lonely windswept hillside east of Evanston on Monday, to freezing rain and sunny hillsides greener than Ireland at the mouth of Weber Canyon we have witnessed a 4000 in action on the Wasatch grade for the first time since they were all sent over to Cheyenne to rule Sherman Hill. And that was years before we last saw them in 1959. VERY cool stuff. 
P. S. Sorry for punctuation and spelling or capitalization. I'm not used to emailing from my phone at 10000 feet. 

Re: Fw: [wyodivops] Spike 150

Andy Carlson
 

Hey guys---
There are numerous sites and social media places to discuss the rebirth of the Big Boy. Can't we seek that out ourselves without it clutering up this site????

Enough!
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Wednesday, May 8, 2019, 8:42:38 PM PDT, Allen Montgomery via Groups.Io <sandbear75@...> wrote:


Oh no. We're still gonna party like its 1869.


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:35 PM, Matt Goodman via Groups.Io
<mgoodman312@...> wrote:
You’ve left for home already?  :)

We also caught it four times today - Evanston, the top of Echo Canyon, bottom of Echo Canyon, Echo and Uinta. Nice. 

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio

Sent from my mobile

On May 8, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Allen Montgomery via Groups.Io <sandbear75@...> wrote:





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Subject: [wyodivops] Spike 150
Welcome to the Wasatch. The dandelions are blooming, aspens leafing out in the warmer hollows, cranes and ducks are feeding off the plowed fields and the snow is coming down. At 8:20 a.m. we first caught the excursion train at the top of the grade. It was 34 degrees with a driving sleet when 4014 crested the grade at Wasatch. The steam and smoke blended immediately into the grey and white sky. It went by and we were off. Thus began the great leap frog race down to Ogden. This should have been an Olympic event in park city in 2002. We caught it four times and each time the crowd grew to more ridiculous proportions. Of course, this was my first time doing something like this, so to me it was unreal. Thank goodness I know the area and was able to get us to downtown Ogden without having to deal with the 25 mph traffic surge that clogged the freeway. I innocently wanted to show Lenny and Nick riverdale yard on the way in, and to our surprise, the was 4014 sitting right next to the road. So that could be considered the 5th time we caught it. 
So, we made it. After hanging out with everyone from Dave Houston, William Kratvilles daughter, retired engineers from several railroads and Trains Magazine on a lonely windswept hillside east of Evanston on Monday, to freezing rain and sunny hillsides greener than Ireland at the mouth of Weber Canyon we have witnessed a 4000 in action on the Wasatch grade for the first time since they were all sent over to Cheyenne to rule Sherman Hill. And that was years before we last saw them in 1959. VERY cool stuff. 
P. S. Sorry for punctuation and spelling or capitalization. I'm not used to emailing from my phone at 10000 feet. 

Re: Fw: [wyodivops] Spike 150

Allen Montgomery
 

Oh no. We're still gonna party like its 1869.


On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:35 PM, Matt Goodman via Groups.Io
<mgoodman312@...> wrote:
You’ve left for home already?  :)

We also caught it four times today - Evanston, the top of Echo Canyon, bottom of Echo Canyon, Echo and Uinta. Nice. 

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio

Sent from my mobile

On May 8, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Allen Montgomery via Groups.Io <sandbear75@...> wrote:





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Subject: [wyodivops] Spike 150
Welcome to the Wasatch. The dandelions are blooming, aspens leafing out in the warmer hollows, cranes and ducks are feeding off the plowed fields and the snow is coming down. At 8:20 a.m. we first caught the excursion train at the top of the grade. It was 34 degrees with a driving sleet when 4014 crested the grade at Wasatch. The steam and smoke blended immediately into the grey and white sky. It went by and we were off. Thus began the great leap frog race down to Ogden. This should have been an Olympic event in park city in 2002. We caught it four times and each time the crowd grew to more ridiculous proportions. Of course, this was my first time doing something like this, so to me it was unreal. Thank goodness I know the area and was able to get us to downtown Ogden without having to deal with the 25 mph traffic surge that clogged the freeway. I innocently wanted to show Lenny and Nick riverdale yard on the way in, and to our surprise, the was 4014 sitting right next to the road. So that could be considered the 5th time we caught it. 
So, we made it. After hanging out with everyone from Dave Houston, William Kratvilles daughter, retired engineers from several railroads and Trains Magazine on a lonely windswept hillside east of Evanston on Monday, to freezing rain and sunny hillsides greener than Ireland at the mouth of Weber Canyon we have witnessed a 4000 in action on the Wasatch grade for the first time since they were all sent over to Cheyenne to rule Sherman Hill. And that was years before we last saw them in 1959. VERY cool stuff. 
P. S. Sorry for punctuation and spelling or capitalization. I'm not used to emailing from my phone at 10000 feet. 

Re: Fw: [wyodivops] Spike 150

Matt Goodman
 

You’ve left for home already?  :)

We also caught it four times today - Evanston, the top of Echo Canyon, bottom of Echo Canyon, Echo and Uinta. Nice. 

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio

Sent from my mobile

On May 8, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Allen Montgomery via Groups.Io <sandbear75@...> wrote:





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Subject: [wyodivops] Spike 150
Welcome to the Wasatch. The dandelions are blooming, aspens leafing out in the warmer hollows, cranes and ducks are feeding off the plowed fields and the snow is coming down. At 8:20 a.m. we first caught the excursion train at the top of the grade. It was 34 degrees with a driving sleet when 4014 crested the grade at Wasatch. The steam and smoke blended immediately into the grey and white sky. It went by and we were off. Thus began the great leap frog race down to Ogden. This should have been an Olympic event in park city in 2002. We caught it four times and each time the crowd grew to more ridiculous proportions. Of course, this was my first time doing something like this, so to me it was unreal. Thank goodness I know the area and was able to get us to downtown Ogden without having to deal with the 25 mph traffic surge that clogged the freeway. I innocently wanted to show Lenny and Nick riverdale yard on the way in, and to our surprise, the was 4014 sitting right next to the road. So that could be considered the 5th time we caught it. 
So, we made it. After hanging out with everyone from Dave Houston, William Kratvilles daughter, retired engineers from several railroads and Trains Magazine on a lonely windswept hillside east of Evanston on Monday, to freezing rain and sunny hillsides greener than Ireland at the mouth of Weber Canyon we have witnessed a 4000 in action on the Wasatch grade for the first time since they were all sent over to Cheyenne to rule Sherman Hill. And that was years before we last saw them in 1959. VERY cool stuff. 
P. S. Sorry for punctuation and spelling or capitalization. I'm not used to emailing from my phone at 10000 feet. 

Fw: [wyodivops] Spike 150

Allen Montgomery
 





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To: "Wyodivops" <wyodivops@groups.io>
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Sent: Wed, May 8, 2019 at 8:18 PM
Subject: [wyodivops] Spike 150
Welcome to the Wasatch. The dandelions are blooming, aspens leafing out in the warmer hollows, cranes and ducks are feeding off the plowed fields and the snow is coming down. At 8:20 a.m. we first caught the excursion train at the top of the grade. It was 34 degrees with a driving sleet when 4014 crested the grade at Wasatch. The steam and smoke blended immediately into the grey and white sky. It went by and we were off. Thus began the great leap frog race down to Ogden. This should have been an Olympic event in park city in 2002. We caught it four times and each time the crowd grew to more ridiculous proportions. Of course, this was my first time doing something like this, so to me it was unreal. Thank goodness I know the area and was able to get us to downtown Ogden without having to deal with the 25 mph traffic surge that clogged the freeway. I innocently wanted to show Lenny and Nick riverdale yard on the way in, and to our surprise, the was 4014 sitting right next to the road. So that could be considered the 5th time we caught it. 
So, we made it. After hanging out with everyone from Dave Houston, William Kratvilles daughter, retired engineers from several railroads and Trains Magazine on a lonely windswept hillside east of Evanston on Monday, to freezing rain and sunny hillsides greener than Ireland at the mouth of Weber Canyon we have witnessed a 4000 in action on the Wasatch grade for the first time since they were all sent over to Cheyenne to rule Sherman Hill. And that was years before we last saw them in 1959. VERY cool stuff. 
P. S. Sorry for punctuation and spelling or capitalization. I'm not used to emailing from my phone at 10000 feet. 

Re: There were not a lot of 50 foot boxcars around in 1929

mopacfirst
 

I have one, I know where it is.  I'll have to look at it. 

Ron Merrick

Re: Greif Miniatures Realistic Light Lens

Bill Welch
 

Didn't cabooses have lights on them?

Bill Welch

Re: ex-ATSF Class Fe-13 Auto Boxcars on the StJ&LC (was There were not a lot of 50 foot boxcars around in 1929)

charles slater
 

The Santa Fe Fe-13 class cars was produced by Sunshine Models and come up on EBAY from time to time.
Charlie Slater 

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Scott <repairman87@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2019 6:38 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] ex-ATSF Class Fe-13 Auto Boxcars on the StJ&LC (was There were not a lot of 50 foot boxcars around in 1929)
 
Don, 

Looks like Westerfield is going to do some Santa Fe FE cars.  Here is a part of the email they just sent out.

We are working on AT&SF Fe type furniture car Kits now.
Next are some C&NW SS boxcars.
We are also in the process of developing a new website - more later.
 Scott McDonald

Re: Greif Miniatures Realistic Light Lens

Mikebrock
 

Randy,

What freight car would one of these lens apply to?

 

Mike Brock

STMFC Boss

 

 

“Greif Miniatures Realistic Light Lens”

 

 

Re: ex-ATSF Class Fe-13 Auto Boxcars on the StJ&LC (was There were not a lot of 50 foot boxcars around in 1929)

Donald B. Valentine
 

Thanks Scott. It's hard to believe they are calling the Fe's "Furniture Cars". with an underframe like the one I remember
here had I'll bet you could carry a pair of Abrams tanks on them if you could fit them through the doors! It will be good to
see such kits available, especially on a regular basis as opposed to only one short run, which is my one gripe with most
of the resin casters. But this leads to another question. What became of all the masters for the Sunshine Models? some
were made by others for Marty as was the Santa Fe R-11 reefer that Frank Hodina did the masters for, the nicest resin kit,
and best thought out, I have ever assembled. Did those who made such masters get them back, is Patricia sitting on a
lot of usable masters or what happened to them? It is a shame that someone cannot acquire them and offer the Sunshine
Kits again.

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: There were not a lot of 50 foot boxcars around in 1929

Jon Miller
 

On 5/7/2019 5:36 PM, Bill Daniels via Groups.Io wrote:
Boy, those rivets look almost as substantial as the underframe!

    I have never seen that kit but that was my first thought.  Then I thought maybe the picture and lighting and shadows.  Has anyone actually looked/have/built that kit?

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, 
SPROG, JMRI User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS

Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Roof Name help

Bill Welch
 

Thank you for sharing this Elden. I cannot figure out how to send you a message from this site. Can you please email me at fgexbill(at)tampabay.rr.com as I have something I want to share with you.

Bill Welch

Re: New Walthers USRA based cars

jerryglow2
 

I can't believe they came out with this garbage stuff which is available (usually better) by others and pass over redoing some of the P2K line. The rebuild is worst than the Atlas (and that's going some). Guess they figure on "smoke and mirrors" to fool the unknowing.

jerrryglow

Re: B&O C-16 Question

Nelson Moyer
 

Yes, but the Custom Finishing (B-179) bracket used by some modelers is no longer available unless you find one in a hobby shop somewhere. It wasn’t correct for the Q, anyway, so the only option  now is to scatchbuild them. Here’s the basic data.

 

RPC Volume 6, p. 12

Burlington Bulletin No. 7

 

XM-33

 

50 ft. single door boxcars built in 1941

8500-8549

Allied trucks

50 operational in 1952

Painted Pullman green with white lettering in 1944

Fitted with steam, air, signal hoses to run in passenger trains

Wood running boards

Dreadnaught ends

Murphy rectangular panel roof

Camel corrugated 8 ft. doors

Straight side sills

 

As you can see, I misspoke re gold lettering. I was thinking of the converted troop kitchens (also from Walthers) that I’m working on to convert open window versions into CB&Q BE-1s. That entailed casting new ends and roof modifications. Walthers offered both the open window and plated window versions, but the open window was the original version with diaphragms. The Q removed the diaphragms, and plated the end windows, while leaving the side windows open for a few years before plating them over as well. Both plated and open ran in 1953. You could add a Q troop kitchen, since they traveled widely in storage mail service, mostly catalogs, colanders, magazines, etc.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Hurst
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 9:35 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O C-16 Question

 

I am modeling October 1946- April 1947.  I think the XM-33 would work for my time period. They also had marker light brackets on them to...didn't they?

 

I'll shoot you some photos of the PRR X29s I did up for REA service.  I built 12 and have 2 more to finish....Yeah I'm nuts!  But the PRR ran REA trains with blocks of X29s....sometimes numbering 10-15 in one train! Needless to say...very interesting seeing passenger power pulling a pseudo freight train!

 

Matthew Hurst

On Tue, May 7, 2019, 9:26 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

Depending on the year(s) you model, the Walthers P2K 12 panel 50 foot boxcar is a dead ringer for CB&Q XM-33 express boxcars. I bought four lettered for SP, stripped and repainted them Pullman green, decaled them with gold lettering, replaced the flimsy plastic sill steps with YMW etched sill steps, and installed Athearn Allied trucks to make four XM-33 express boxcars.

 

As for the X29s, I have pre-ordered six Red Caboose undecorated kits, some of which will be painted and lettered for freight service and some for express service. I know about the NYC, PRR, and C&O cars in Q trains, but I didn’t know about SAL.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Hurst
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 7:04 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O C-16 Question

 

You are welcome Nelson.  Anything I can do to help anyone grow there rolling stock fleet!

Of course you will NEED some PRR X29s in REA service, in your consists as well. I know I need a CB&Q car in at least one of my REA/express trains on the PRR.

Also, I have also seen Seaboard REA cars show up in CB&Q trains as well. 

Who says these cars didn't get around?!?!?!?!

 

Re: SAL Express Cars [was B&O C-16 Question]

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Nelson,

Some Seaboard express cars looked like the attached photo. Does anybody make a Wine ventilator casting like this? Looks like a good candidate for a computer-generated part.

According to John Golden's article in the May 2009 SEABOARD COAST LINE MODELER these are former class B-6, a slightly modified 1932 AAR design with plate ends and a 31' 2" truck spacing. 55 cars were rebuilt as express cars 700-754 in 1943 with Wine ventilators and Allied Full Cushion trucks. The trucks were replaced with Buckeye trucks circa 1951. Seaboard added 755-769 to the express series in the 1960s, but they lacked the Wine ventilators.

I found this car in rural southern Virginia in 1982 or 1983.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 5/7/19 9:26 PM, Nelson Moyer wrote:

Depending on the year(s) you model, the Walthers P2K 12 panel 50 foot boxcar is a dead ringer for CB&Q XM-33 express boxcars. I bought four lettered for SP, stripped and repainted them Pullman green, decaled them with gold lettering, replaced the flimsy plastic sill steps with YMW etched sill steps, and installed Athearn Allied trucks to make four XM-33 express boxcars.

 

As for the X29s, I have pre-ordered six Red Caboose undecorated kits, some of which will be painted and lettered for freight service and some for express service. I know about the NYC, PRR, and C&O cars in Q trains, but I didn’t know about SAL.

 

Nelson Moyer

 



Re: B&O C-16 Question

Matthew Hurst
 

I am modeling October 1946- April 1947.  I think the XM-33 would work for my time period. They also had marker light brackets on them to...didn't they?

I'll shoot you some photos of the PRR X29s I did up for REA service.  I built 12 and have 2 more to finish....Yeah I'm nuts!  But the PRR ran REA trains with blocks of X29s....sometimes numbering 10-15 in one train! Needless to say...very interesting seeing passenger power pulling a pseudo freight train!

Matthew Hurst


On Tue, May 7, 2019, 9:26 PM Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...> wrote:

Depending on the year(s) you model, the Walthers P2K 12 panel 50 foot boxcar is a dead ringer for CB&Q XM-33 express boxcars. I bought four lettered for SP, stripped and repainted them Pullman green, decaled them with gold lettering, replaced the flimsy plastic sill steps with YMW etched sill steps, and installed Athearn Allied trucks to make four XM-33 express boxcars.

 

As for the X29s, I have pre-ordered six Red Caboose undecorated kits, some of which will be painted and lettered for freight service and some for express service. I know about the NYC, PRR, and C&O cars in Q trains, but I didn’t know about SAL.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew Hurst
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 7:04 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io; main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] B&O C-16 Question

 

You are welcome Nelson.  Anything I can do to help anyone grow there rolling stock fleet!

Of course you will NEED some PRR X29s in REA service, in your consists as well. I know I need a CB&Q car in at least one of my REA/express trains on the PRR.

Also, I have also seen Seaboard REA cars show up in CB&Q trains as well. 

Who says these cars didn't get around?!?!?!?!