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Re: DL&W 40' Rebuilt Automobile Boxcars were they ever converted to Auto Parts ?

Bill Welch
 

No 1948 but Westerfield site shows both 1945 and 1950 available as a DVD.

Bill Welch
Re: DL&W 40' Rebuilt Automobile Boxcars were they ever converted to Auto Parts ?

Guy Wilber
 

Eric, 

The cars are included within the 11300-11599 series in October, 1950.  All were equipped with Type “E” Evans Auto Loaders with 12 floor tie down chain tubes, or a combination of tubes and internal floor “U” brackets.  The cars had the same configuration in January of 1945...I would “guess” that the Loaders were upgraded from an earlier loader design as the “E” was not available when they were rebuilt in 1935-37.  They were likely upgraded prior to WW II, but I can’t confirm that.  There’s a chance those loaders were changed near the end of the War as the Type “E” design was a common install for 40 foot auto cars.

Mike Delvechio would be your definitive source.

Regards,

Guy Wilber
Reno, Nevada




On May 24, 2019, at 7:05 AM, Eric Thur <prrtrainguy@...> wrote:

I am trying to get information on DL&W  11500 series Auto Boxcars re-built 35-37. These cars had Auto Racks installed when built, but my question is, Were the Auto racks ever removed and the cars used for Auto Parts loads?  If so, what year were the Auto Racks removed? Were Parts racks installed?  Did the ""AUTOMOBILE"  lettering get painted out at any point or  did it remain? I was interested in Building Yarmouth Kit  YMW-115, but want to build a late 1940's version.  The Kit is lettered " As Built" Mid-1930's. I am unable to find any photo's of this car later than 1939 on line, so I have no idea what lettering scheme these cars had 1940-1950.

 Any Information would help,

 Thank You

 Eric Thur

Re: DL&W 40' Rebuilt Automobile Boxcars were they ever converted to Auto Parts ?

Eric Thur
 

On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 07:21 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
Ben,
 Can you point me in the direction where to get an ORER for 1948?

Eric
Re: DL&W 40' Rebuilt Automobile Boxcars were they ever converted to Auto Parts ?

Benjamin Hom
 

Eric Thur asked:
"I am trying to get information on DL&W 11500 series Auto Boxcars re-built 35-37. These cars had Auto Racks installed when built, but my question is, Were the Auto racks ever removed and the cars used for Auto Parts loads?  If so, what year were the Auto Racks removed? Were Parts racks installed?  Did the ""AUTOMOBILE"  lettering get painted out at any point or  did it remain? I was interested in Building Yarmouth Kit  YMW-115, but want to build a late 1940's version.  The Kit is lettered " As Built" Mid-1930's. I am unable to find any photo's of this car later than 1939 on line, so I have no idea what lettering scheme these cars had 1940-1950."

To verify special handling equipment, get an ORER for the time you wish to model and consult the notes section in the DL&W listings for that car series.


Ben Hom
Re: Removing car numbers on Walthers cars.

Dave Strahlendorf
 

Currently on Facebook, there is a guy that replaced the lettering on a Walthers SOO caboose using Solvaset and a pink eraser. Said it takes about an hour per side to remove the lettering. This method looks to work well.
 
As far as using Scalecoat wash, I'd be very hesitant doing that. You'll probably be taking off a layer of paint as well.
 
Dave Strahlendorf
Erlanger, Ky
DL&W 40' Rebuilt Automobile Boxcars were they ever converted to Auto Parts ?

Eric Thur
 

I am trying to get information on DL&W  11500 series Auto Boxcars re-built 35-37. These cars had Auto Racks installed when built, but my question is, Were the Auto racks ever removed and the cars used for Auto Parts loads?  If so, what year were the Auto Racks removed? Were Parts racks installed?  Did the ""AUTOMOBILE"  lettering get painted out at any point or  did it remain? I was interested in Building Yarmouth Kit  YMW-115, but want to build a late 1940's version.  The Kit is lettered " As Built" Mid-1930's. I am unable to find any photo's of this car later than 1939 on line, so I have no idea what lettering scheme these cars had 1940-1950.

 Any Information would help,

 Thank You

 Eric Thur
FW: [CBQ] Redo/Upgrade BRHS MOW Decal Project #poll

Nelson Moyer
 

I’m forwarding this email from Brian Howell re interest level for reprinting the BRHS MOW decal set with scale car decals for the Walthers and Bachmann scale cars. Reprints will be based upon prospective purchases. If you want to see this happen, vote.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 

From: CBQ@groups.io [mailto:CBQ@groups.io] On Behalf Of Bryan Howell via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2019 7:58 AM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: [CBQ] Redo/Upgrade BRHS MOW Decal Project #poll

 

A new poll has been created:

If the BRHS were to redo/update the MOW decal set, would you buy 1 or more sets? Artwork for scale test cars would be added on this update with the potential for more based on input. The purpose of this goal is to gauge overall interest.

1. No
2. 1 Set
3. 2+ sets

Vote Now
Re: Tangent 1952-design 8,000 gal GATC welded tank car

Andy Laurent
 

Tangent 1952-design 8,000 gal GATC welded tank car

Andy Laurent
 

Gents,
I did not see this advertised yet, even though the announcement was made May 11.  Tangent has produced another transition-era tank car in HO (although the schemes in the first run are just within this group's limit).

GATC 1952-design 8,000 gallon welded tank car:

https://www.tangentscalemodels.com/new-model-general-american-1952-design-8000-gallon-welded-general-service-tank-car/  

Cheers,
Andy
Wisconsin
Re: Wanting to buy!

Pierre Oliver
 

Yeah, I was rather perturbed when I realized the IMRC seems to have lost or dumped the Red Caboose moulds.
Doesn’t make much sense to me 


On May 23, 2019, at 7:54 PM, radiodial868 <radiodial@...> wrote:

That's a sought after but rare to find kit nowadays. Lots of the other version though.  I gave up and put a row of Archer Rivets down the edges and hoped my Yarmouth, Kadee & Hi-Tech details would make the rivet counters overlook that the ends capped the sides vs the sides covering the ends.  If you kinda squint...

RJ Dial
Burlingame, Ca

Re: Wanting to buy!

radiodial868
 

That's a sought after but rare to find kit nowadays. Lots of the other version though.  I gave up and put a row of Archer Rivets down the edges and hoped my Yarmouth, Kadee & Hi-Tech details would make the rivet counters overlook that the ends capped the sides vs the sides covering the ends.  If you kinda squint...

RJ Dial
Burlingame, Ca
Re: MILW & NP log trains

Dennis Storzek
 

On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 03:55 PM, Andy Brusgard wrote:
Question - The weight of the logs would rest directly on the two cross I beams which are directly over the truck bolsters and the trucks. Little or no weight would be on the center portion of the car.  Why the need for truss bars?
Typically because the truss rods also hold the end sills on. Admittedly, since the center of the car carries no weight they could be replaced with straight tie rods, but in the case of these rebuilds, they were already there, so were left in place.

Dennis Storzek
Re: MILW & NP log trains

Gene Deimling
 

Brian
Nice find on the color images of the log cars

Gene Deimling
Re: MILW & NP log trains

Andy Brusgard <ajb1102@...>
 

Question - The weight of the logs would rest directly on the two cross I beams which are directly over the truck bolsters and the trucks. Little or no weight would be on the center portion of the car.  Why the need for truss bars?
Re: Removing car numbers on Walthers cars.

Nelson Moyer
 

Super Clean degreaser will lift lettering from Accurail cars in less than two hours without affecting the paint – unless you soak cars for a week and scrub hard with a toothbrush. I haven’t tried to selectively remove lettering or used it on Walthers cars.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 5:08 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Removing car numbers on Walthers cars.

 

Hello,

Anybody have any tips or tricks to remove only the road numbers on a Walthers Boxcar.  I will give Walthers credit that paint is tough as nails.

I have tried the following:

Micro-sol trick which the paint laughed at and didnt budge.

Isopropyl Alcohol which kind of worked.  Have to press really hard to get it to budge and really easy to go through color paint.  The numbers came off eventually but you could still see them raised in the paint.

Scale coat thinner which took off the color and number.

Has anybody used Scalecoat wash away to remove just letters?  Little nervous to try soda blasting.  I really dont want to repaint the entire car just to change the road number.  

Scott McDonald

Re: Removing car numbers on Walthers cars.

Lester Breuer
 

Scott,
I use a Euro scratch brush to remove lettering only.  Light passes.  I have used it on many different cars with success.  A complete writeup and photos are on my blog.  Look under “labels” for “ scratch brush.” for complete details if interested.  The link is:

http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com

Lester Breuer
Re: Removing car numbers on Walthers cars.

Drew M.
 

Scott,
  In a back issue of Model Railroad Hobbyist in Ken Patterson's column he shared a tip on a Walthers locomotive he renumbered. He used Solvaset and Scotch tape. I vaguely recall he applied the Solvaset to the number, allowed it to dry and then pressed the tape on the number and removed the tape. I have not tried this technique so I can't say how well it works.

Drew in Philly

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On May 23, 2019, at 18:07, Scott <repairman87@...> wrote:
Hello,

Anybody have any tips or tricks to remove only the road numbers on a Walthers Boxcar.  I will give Walthers credit that paint is tough as nails.

I have tried the following:

Micro-sol trick which the paint laughed at and didnt budge.

Isopropyl Alcohol which kind of worked.  Have to press really hard to get it to budge and really easy to go through color paint.  The numbers came off eventually but you could still see them raised in the paint.

Scale coat thinner which took off the color and number.

Has anybody used Scalecoat wash away to remove just letters?  Little nervous to try soda blasting.  I really dont want to repaint the entire car just to change the road number.  

Scott McDonald

Removing car numbers on Walthers cars.

Scott
 

Hello,

Anybody have any tips or tricks to remove only the road numbers on a Walthers Boxcar.  I will give Walthers credit that paint is tough as nails.

I have tried the following:

Micro-sol trick which the paint laughed at and didnt budge.

Isopropyl Alcohol which kind of worked.  Have to press really hard to get it to budge and really easy to go through color paint.  The numbers came off eventually but you could still see them raised in the paint.

Scale coat thinner which took off the color and number.

Has anybody used Scalecoat wash away to remove just letters?  Little nervous to try soda blasting.  I really dont want to repaint the entire car just to change the road number.  

Scott McDonald
Re: MILW & NP log trains

Doug Paasch
 

Thanks Chuck.  I managed to get to the 17 photos.

 

  Doug Paasch

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck Soule
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 2:45 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] MILW & NP log trains

 

There are some photos of log cars in the portion of the Walt Ainsworth NP Locations collection at the NPRHA website.  It is a little difficult to find the link, and more difficult to filter, but here is a link

http://www.nprha.org/Lists/WWANL/AllItems.aspx

An example - once in the web page, you can scroll down 5 pictures to find a 1953 log train on the Auburn wye. 

Searching the site is awkward - we are working on better software.  But once on Walt's Location page, click on the right site of subject 2 to get a menu.  Scroll down and check "log train" to get access to 17 pictures that meet that heading.  You can do the same on subject 1, but there are only 2 pictures.  You can also check "car-lot" but there is only one pic currently posted.

We are working to put up more pictures that have been scanned and indexed.  That's not in my shop, so I don't know how soon it will happen.

Unfortunately, you can't get more than the thumbnail from web site.  But you can contact Pacific NW Railroad Archive for a better print.  info@...

Hope this helps.
Chuck Soule

Re: MILW & NP log trains

Doug Paasch
 

Thanks Brian!  It looks like the pins on the log cradle fold down for dumping?

 

  Doug Paasch

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of brianleppert@...
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 10:16 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] MILW & NP log trains

 

In addition to Gene Deimling's post on skeleton log cars, here are two more images.  Photographed in Olympia. WA circa early 1950s.

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV

18061 - 18080 of 182477