Date   
GATC Type 17

Tim O'Connor
 

WAG company tank car. Jerry Stewart thinks this could be ex-SDRX (Sinclair)
because of the proximity to a Sinclair refinery

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123759473545

Tim O'



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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

Re: The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Bill Welch
 

I hope some enterprising person on this list will use Bruce's drawings from his article and offer the photo-etched parts for the PRR decking. Please announce here if someone does decide to do these.

Bill Welch

Re: Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'

Curt Fortenberry
 


Having done a fair amount of artwork, I'll add that as the lettering gets smaller, you have limits to what your printer (commercial or otherwise) can do.  I had to use thinner lettering widths at the smaller sizes only to allow for what the ink will actually accomplish.  Some of the newer manufacturer's models with pad printing can do things that I couldn't do with a decal.

Curt Fortenberry

Re: Printing white and black together, was: Results, Super Clean Degreaser to remove lettering

steve_wintner
 

Related - Icve been wondering thetsame thingt but thought of another approach. Ghost cartridges convert a CMYK color printer into CMYW, if I understand correctly.

So, has anyone tried using (in CMYK speak)

100 100 100 0 for black
0 0 0 100 for white

 to print black and white? Did CMY give an acceptable black? That might resolve the registration issue.

Steve

Re: The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Scott
 

Thats a neat article on doing Photo etch.  Didnt realize Highliners was backnin business.

Scott McDonald

Printing white and black together, was: Results, Super Clean Degreaser to remove lettering

Paul Woods <paul@...>
 

Hi Everyone

Thank you to all the contributors to these threads concerning white toner and printing decals; I have learned a lot!  It has been very timely as I purchased a ghost white cartridge for my HP laser printer quite a while ago, though I have not reached the stage of needing to use it just yet.  Because I am working in larger scales (1:32, 1:13.7) I deemed the ability to print my own decals to be a worthwhile investment.  I have been procrastinating over getting started but reading about others' experiences has sure lit a fire under my derriere!

Question: has anyone tried printing over a decal film that has already been printed on?  I am happy to give it a go but it's always worth asking in case someone has gone down this path before.  As an NYC fan, I have been puzzling over how to create the oval logo with its white text over black background, and it only dawned on me today that it might be possible to print black ovals then put the white cartridge into the printer and over-print the same sheet with the white outline and text.  Register between passes shouldn't matter since it is only a big black patch that the white portion is aiming to hit - just make the black patch slightly larger than required.  It would have the advantage of allowing a complete set (e.g. for a freight car) to be printed on one sheet of clear film, potentially avoiding the need to purchase white decal film for printing the logos separately.  Your thoughts welcomed.

I briefly considered using two layers of clear film, one carrying the white and one carrying the black, but I think it would be too much of a fiddle to line everything up and the double-thickness might stand out too much. Perhaps it might be a weapon of last resort if the register of colours was critical.

Regards
Paul Woods

Whangarei, NZ

Re: The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Eric Hansmann
 

Thank you for the notice, Bruce. I enjoy every issue, no matter the features.

 

Many thanks to Jim Hunter for corralling the parts for each issue.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 8:32 PM
To: the-keystone-modeler@...
Cc: RealSTMFC@groups.io; PRR@PRR.groups.io; PRRPro@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

 

Folks,

 

The Spring issue (#108) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS

 

Re: Doors with inside detail

 

I made note of that in my note. Thanks Steve.

Gordon Spalty

Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'

Donald B. Valentine
 

     Thank you Drew and Bruce. I feel a bit better knowing the herald was around in 1948. It is easier to change car numbers and built 
dates on commonly found cars that it is to change the herald used.

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: Anyone make this?

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

Jim,

Thanks for that info.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 11:23:46 PM CDT, Jim Gates via Groups.Io <jim.gates@...> wrote:


Hendrickson and Kaminski's Billboard Refrigerator Cars shows several Northern Refrigerator Car Co. cars in the 3600 series.  The standard portion of the lettering looks correct, and one of the captions is "NRC leased many refrigerator cars to small Wisconsin canning companies, as shown here,though each of these shippers were assigned only a small number of cars (sometimes, it appears, only one or two cars)."  So if it is a real company during that period then it certainly could be a real scheme.

Jim Gates

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 5/27/19, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Anyone make this?
Date: Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

Hello,
Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale.  Their research might be somewhat better.
Ted Schnepf

On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT,
Roger Huber via Groups.Io
<trainpainter=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Tony,
Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the
Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


Re: Anyone make this?

Jim Gates
 

Hendrickson and Kaminski's Billboard Refrigerator Cars shows several Northern Refrigerator Car Co. cars in the 3600 series. The standard portion of the lettering looks correct, and one of the captions is "NRC leased many refrigerator cars to small Wisconsin canning companies, as shown here,though each of these shippers were assigned only a small number of cars (sometimes, it appears, only one or two cars)." So if it is a real company during that period then it certainly could be a real scheme.

Jim Gates

--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 5/27/19, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Anyone make this?
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Date: Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

Hello,
Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale.  Their research might be somewhat better.
Ted Schnepf

On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT,
Roger Huber via Groups.Io
<trainpainter=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Tony,
Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the
Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works

Re: Anyone make this?

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

I just tried to search the MTH site. I have never been able to negotiate that site. 

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:18:57 PM CDT, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:


Hello,

Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale.  Their research might be somewhat better.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:


Tony,

Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


Re: Anyone make this?

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale.  Their research might be somewhat better.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:


Tony,

Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


_._,_._,_

Re: Anyone make this?

Roger Huber <trainpainter@...>
 

Tony,

Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 8:16:14 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Is it a real scheme or just a dream?
Tony Thompson 


On May 27, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:

Does anyone make either this car or decals in HO?

Thanks,
Roger Huber

<NRC Cherryland Cherries.jpg>

Re: Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:
"Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy
End door boxcar:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/c3b25a8a106e913adac4a0061d1acb77/tumblr_n7jd1n0aG81qcdxvpo1_1280.jpg 

Actually enclosed bi-level auto racks. These cars lacked side doors.  Sylvan once offered resin models of these early CN cars in HO scale.  CN later lengthened the design to 75 ft, and these cars were acquired by Auto-Train Corporation, later going to Amtrak.


Ben Hom

Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'

Bruce Smith
 

Don,


The anthracite herald appeared at least as early as 1942. I have a photo of READING HTs 67300, new, 9/42, in this scheme. For a color photo of HTf 89252 see page 38 of the Reading Color Guide showing it with a 1944 reweigh that also appears to be a new repaint. I also have a color photo of Hth 75096 in this scheme with a reweigh of STC 5-48, for a car built in 1917, so no, it was not just applied to newly built cars.


Regards,
Bruce Smith
Auburn, AL


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...>
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 7:55 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'
 
      Reading hoppers with this paint have given me sme grief. Can anyone advise me with any certainty as to
what year the red patch herald began t be used. Did it only come through on new cars such as the offset hoppers
in 1952, that Kadee has offered, and later or might it have been earlier. Also, was it used when repainting the
hoppers and, if so, beginning when. My cut-off date is December 1948 but I like the look of these cars and will
have a few around IF they can be rostered without bending the time line.

Thanks in advance,, Don Valentine

Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'

Drew M.
 

Don,
   I can't give you an exact date off the top of my head but the "America's Largest..." herald was introduced in the early 1950s on an order of offset side, two bay hoppers. Cars rebuilt received it when painted. The herald was phased out as a money saving move in the early 1960s. The guys over at the Reading Modeler website have much information on the Reading. John Hall included info on the herald in his two bay hopper set which, since I was looking for one, I could not locate in my stash.

Drew Marshall in Philly, PA

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On May 27, 2019, at 20:55, "Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io" <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
      Reading hoppers with this paint have given me sme grief. Can anyone advise me with any certainty as to
what year the red patch herald began t be used. Did it only come through on new cars such as the offset hoppers
in 1952, that Kadee has offered, and later or might it have been earlier. Also, was it used when repainting the
hoppers and, if so, beginning when. My cut-off date is December 1948 but I like the look of these cars and will
have a few around IF they can be rostered without bending the time line.

Thanks in advance,, Don Valentine

The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Bruce Smith
 

Folks,


The Spring issue (#108) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS


Re: Anyone make this?

Tony Thompson
 

Is it a real scheme or just a dream?
Tony Thompson 


On May 27, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:

Does anyone make either this car or decals in HO?

Thanks,
Roger Huber

<NRC Cherryland Cherries.jpg>

Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy

End door boxcar:

https://66.media.tumblr.com/c3b25a8a106e913adac4a0061d1acb77/tumblr_n7jd1n0aG81qcdxvpo1_1280.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA