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Re: GATC Type 17

Steve and Barb Hile
 

Also Sinclair used a round dot on the dome and had GAT Type 17 tank cars.

Steve Hile

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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Tim O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2019 12:40 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] GATC Type 17


WAG company tank car. Jerry Stewart thinks this could be ex-SDRX (Sinclair)
because of the proximity to a Sinclair refinery

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123759473545

Tim O'



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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'

Drew M.
 

My apologies, Don. I mixed up your question with when the RDG introduced speedlettering. As others have pointed out the "America's Largest..." herald was around by your cutoff date.

Drew in Philly

Sent from TypeApp

On May 28, 2019, at 07:42, "Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io" <yahoo.com@groups.io target=_blank>riverman_vt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
     Thank you Drew and Bruce. I feel a bit better knowing the herald was around in 1948. It is easier to change car numbers and built 
dates on commonly found cars that it is to change the herald used.

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: GATC Type 17

Schleigh Mike
 

All three of the WAG tank cars came from Sinclair.  Two were of the 'Type 17' type from General American.  WAG 200 was from Pennsylvania Tank Car Company.

Regards----Mike Schleigh

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 1:40:38 PM EDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



WAG company tank car. Jerry Stewart thinks this could be ex-SDRX (Sinclair)
because of the proximity to a Sinclair refinery


Tim O'



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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*



Re: Printing white and black together, was: Results, Super Clean Degreaser to remove lettering

Dave Parker
 

A two-part decal (white over black) is SOP for the NYC herald as offered in commercial sets.  YMMV, but I would rather deal with the registration problem on the model (HO scale) than in a printer that is not designed to self-register (like an ALPS is).  With the right decal paper (Tango Papa!), the combined thickness of the two films is a complete non-issue.  There are single film decals out there that are worse (not naming namer mind you).

As for spoofing the printer into printing black and white at the same time, I am not sure how that would be executed.  I am no expert, but when I am composing artwork on screen, I think am in RGB, i.e., black is 0-0-0, which is then mapped to 0-0-0-100 in CMYK.  And, to take advantage of the Ghost, the white art is also black, i.e.,  the printer thinks is it's printing black, again 0-0-0-100 but the W cartridge is swapped in for B.  So, both colors would be black during composition (that would seem problematic in itself), and one of them would have to be remapped to 100-100-100-0 somehow.  Hmmmm....

I think I will stick with two-part decals, a depth that I am comfortable in.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA

Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'

James E Kubanick
 

I have a photo of RDG 70056, a four bay rib side hopper with a reweigh date of 8-49 with the anthracite logo. I cannot see the class designation on this car, though, as this car has paint damage in that spot. It appears to have been built 6-24.

I plan to model this car using the old Hobbyline car as it has the correct number of ribs and rib spacing.and It will not take a great deal of effort to upgrade the car. I have previously done a Lehigh Valley version, which is nearly identical, although the Reading car has Andrews trucks, making it even more interesting.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV.

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 7:42:33 AM EDT, Donald B. Valentine via Groups.Io <riverman_vt@...> wrote:


     Thank you Drew and Bruce. I feel a bit better knowing the herald was around in 1948. It is easier to change car numbers and built 
dates on commonly found cars that it is to change the herald used.

Cordially, Don Valentine

GATC Type 17

Tim O'Connor
 

WAG company tank car. Jerry Stewart thinks this could be ex-SDRX (Sinclair)
because of the proximity to a Sinclair refinery

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123759473545

Tim O'



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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

Re: The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Bill Welch
 

I hope some enterprising person on this list will use Bruce's drawings from his article and offer the photo-etched parts for the PRR decking. Please announce here if someone does decide to do these.

Bill Welch

Re: Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'

Curt Fortenberry
 


Having done a fair amount of artwork, I'll add that as the lettering gets smaller, you have limits to what your printer (commercial or otherwise) can do.  I had to use thinner lettering widths at the smaller sizes only to allow for what the ink will actually accomplish.  Some of the newer manufacturer's models with pad printing can do things that I couldn't do with a decal.

Curt Fortenberry

Re: Printing white and black together, was: Results, Super Clean Degreaser to remove lettering

steve_wintner
 

Related - Icve been wondering thetsame thingt but thought of another approach. Ghost cartridges convert a CMYK color printer into CMYW, if I understand correctly.

So, has anyone tried using (in CMYK speak)

100 100 100 0 for black
0 0 0 100 for white

 to print black and white? Did CMY give an acceptable black? That might resolve the registration issue.

Steve

Re: The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Scott
 

Thats a neat article on doing Photo etch.  Didnt realize Highliners was backnin business.

Scott McDonald

Printing white and black together, was: Results, Super Clean Degreaser to remove lettering

Paul Woods
 

Hi Everyone

Thank you to all the contributors to these threads concerning white toner and printing decals; I have learned a lot!  It has been very timely as I purchased a ghost white cartridge for my HP laser printer quite a while ago, though I have not reached the stage of needing to use it just yet.  Because I am working in larger scales (1:32, 1:13.7) I deemed the ability to print my own decals to be a worthwhile investment.  I have been procrastinating over getting started but reading about others' experiences has sure lit a fire under my derriere!

Question: has anyone tried printing over a decal film that has already been printed on?  I am happy to give it a go but it's always worth asking in case someone has gone down this path before.  As an NYC fan, I have been puzzling over how to create the oval logo with its white text over black background, and it only dawned on me today that it might be possible to print black ovals then put the white cartridge into the printer and over-print the same sheet with the white outline and text.  Register between passes shouldn't matter since it is only a big black patch that the white portion is aiming to hit - just make the black patch slightly larger than required.  It would have the advantage of allowing a complete set (e.g. for a freight car) to be printed on one sheet of clear film, potentially avoiding the need to purchase white decal film for printing the logos separately.  Your thoughts welcomed.

I briefly considered using two layers of clear film, one carrying the white and one carrying the black, but I think it would be too much of a fiddle to line everything up and the double-thickness might stand out too much. Perhaps it might be a weapon of last resort if the register of colours was critical.

Regards
Paul Woods

Whangarei, NZ

Re: The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

Eric Hansmann
 

Thank you for the notice, Bruce. I enjoy every issue, no matter the features.

 

Many thanks to Jim Hunter for corralling the parts for each issue.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Smith
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 8:32 PM
To: the-keystone-modeler@...
Cc: RealSTMFC@groups.io; PRR@PRR.groups.io; PRRPro@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] The Spring issue of The Keystone Modeler is available

 

Folks,

 

The Spring issue (#108) of The Keystone Modeler is now available on the PRRT&HS web site at: http://www.prrths.com/newprr_files/newPRRKeystoneModeler.htm

Regards,

Bruce 

Bruce Smith, Assistant webmaster, PRRT&HS

 

Re: Doors with inside detail

 

I made note of that in my note. Thanks Steve.

Gordon Spalty

Re: Reading decals - was Printing White Decals - 'Fonts'

Donald B. Valentine
 

     Thank you Drew and Bruce. I feel a bit better knowing the herald was around in 1948. It is easier to change car numbers and built 
dates on commonly found cars that it is to change the herald used.

Cordially, Don Valentine

Re: Anyone make this?

Roger Huber
 

Jim,

Thanks for that info.

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 11:23:46 PM CDT, Jim Gates via Groups.Io <jim.gates@...> wrote:


Hendrickson and Kaminski's Billboard Refrigerator Cars shows several Northern Refrigerator Car Co. cars in the 3600 series.  The standard portion of the lettering looks correct, and one of the captions is "NRC leased many refrigerator cars to small Wisconsin canning companies, as shown here,though each of these shippers were assigned only a small number of cars (sometimes, it appears, only one or two cars)."  So if it is a real company during that period then it certainly could be a real scheme.

Jim Gates

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On Mon, 5/27/19, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Anyone make this?
Date: Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

Hello,
Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale.  Their research might be somewhat better.
Ted Schnepf

On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT,
Roger Huber via Groups.Io
<trainpainter=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Tony,
Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the
Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


Re: Anyone make this?

Jim Gates
 

Hendrickson and Kaminski's Billboard Refrigerator Cars shows several Northern Refrigerator Car Co. cars in the 3600 series. The standard portion of the lettering looks correct, and one of the captions is "NRC leased many refrigerator cars to small Wisconsin canning companies, as shown here,though each of these shippers were assigned only a small number of cars (sometimes, it appears, only one or two cars)." So if it is a real company during that period then it certainly could be a real scheme.

Jim Gates

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On Mon, 5/27/19, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Anyone make this?
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Date: Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:18 PM

Hello,
Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale.  Their research might be somewhat better.
Ted Schnepf

On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT,
Roger Huber via Groups.Io
<trainpainter=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Tony,
Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the
Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL
Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works

Re: Anyone make this?

Roger Huber
 

I just tried to search the MTH site. I have never been able to negotiate that site. 

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:18:57 PM CDT, Ted Schnepf <railsunl@...> wrote:


Hello,

Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale.  Their research might be somewhat better.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:


Tony,

Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


Re: Anyone make this?

Ted Schnepf
 

Hello,

Atlas O also offered that car many years ago in O scale.  Their research might be somewhat better.

Ted Schnepf
126 Will Scarlet,
Elgin, Ill. 60120


847=697-5353


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 9:11:05 PM CDT, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:


Tony,

Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


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Re: Anyone make this?

Roger Huber
 

Tony,

Not sure! It appears to be a real company from my limited research. I saw a similar car on the Art Griffin site once.  This O scale model is by MTH and we all know they are sticklers for accuracy! LOL

Roger Huber
Deer Creek Locomotive Works


On Monday, May 27, 2019, 8:16:14 PM CDT, Tony Thompson <tony@...> wrote:


Is it a real scheme or just a dream?
Tony Thompson 


On May 27, 2019, at 4:10 PM, Roger Huber via Groups.Io <trainpainter@...> wrote:

Does anyone make either this car or decals in HO?

Thanks,
Roger Huber

<NRC Cherryland Cherries.jpg>

Re: Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy

Benjamin Hom
 

Bob Chaparro wrote:
"Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy
End door boxcar:
https://66.media.tumblr.com/c3b25a8a106e913adac4a0061d1acb77/tumblr_n7jd1n0aG81qcdxvpo1_1280.jpg 

Actually enclosed bi-level auto racks. These cars lacked side doors.  Sylvan once offered resin models of these early CN cars in HO scale.  CN later lengthened the design to 75 ft, and these cars were acquired by Auto-Train Corporation, later going to Amtrak.


Ben Hom