Photos: Gondola & Boxcar
Photo: SP Gondola 45780 (Partial) http://www.asu.edu/lib/archives/digital-collections/AZSI/full/CP_MCLMB_A656A.JPG Caption: Train Yard at Copper Mine; Ray, Arizona, circa 1935 Photo: PRR X25 Boxcar 83755 http://www.brodheadhistory.org/bhsimages/images/2621.jpg Caption: Pickle barrels are waiting to be loaded on to train cars at Colony Foods in Brodhead, Wisconsin, 1947. Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: (Not A Freight Car) Slanted Loading Dock
Schleigh Mike
Hello Group! I think I walked on that platform fewer years back than Garth and stepped inside the building to see the display therein. The platform was not sloped. Regards----Mike Schleigh usually in Grove City, Penna.
On Thursday, May 30, 2019, 4:45:32 PM EDT, Garth Groff <sarahsan@...> wrote:
Dennis, I don't have the complete building, but here are two partial views from about 15 years ago (with their NATX tank car for group content). The dock appears flat as a piece of paper. Yours Aye, Garth Groff On 5/30/19 2:34 PM, Dennis Storzek
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On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 06:17 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote: Well that photo certainly makes clear the amount of pitch of the loading dock. Look at the piles of boxes on the dock, and how out of plumb they are sitting. Now that we can see the whole arrangement, I wonder if that isn't the oil house for the whole facility. Back in those days the philosophy was drainage rather than spill containment, and that pitch would certainly have any spills draining out onto the ground rather than pooling on the floor. Steamtown National Historic Site in Scranton has preserved a DL&W oil house that they use as a book store; it's one of the few original buildings on the site. I recall it has a loading dock, but I don't recall the pitch of the floor, nor can I find a photo of it. Dennis Storzek
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Re: Union Refrigerator Transit Lines URTX 87292
Paul Doggett
Looking really nice Lester.
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Paul Doggett. England 🏴
On 1 Jun 2019, at 12:42, Lester Breuer <rforailroad@...> wrote:
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Union Refrigerator Transit Lines URTX 87292
Lester Breuer
I have finished a Branchline Trains wood Union Refrigerator Transit Lines ventilated Refrigerator URTX 87292. On the car I installed a AB brake system replacing the K system in the kit along with other upgrades. If you are interested, photos and writeup of building and finishing URTX 87292 are now on my blog I have to share photos and writeup of modeling projects on my Minneapolis & Northland Railroad Company (M&N). If you would like to take a look please do at the following link:
http://mnrailroadcab100.blogspot.com/ Lester Breuer
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Re: K BraKE QUESTION
Dave Nelson
Thank you Guy, that's exactly what I was looking for.
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FWIW in rail sims one does need to provide the correct data so the software can calculate the amount of brake force applied to the wheel rim on a speed curve. It's all rather different than working w/ HO models, especially when you cannot find the correct answer. Thanks again! Dave Nelson.
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Guy Wilber via Groups.Io Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 3:02 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] K BraKE QUESTION Dave Nelson asked: “I’m trying to find out what the air volume was for a typical KC brake reservoir?” Dave, 1929 ARA Standards (attached). Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada
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Re: K BraKE QUESTION
Randy Hees
K (and the predecessor H) brakes came in several sizes (K-1 through K-4)... K-1 being the smallest... They will have different sizes of cylinders (pistons) and reservoirs. This is independent of KC (K connected) or KD (K disconnected) which use the same size cylinders and reservoirs for each size...
Randy Hees
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Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar
Bill Welch
Reporting from the NERPM, Rapido displaying USRA double sheathed boxcar. Also spotted four different boxcar red gloss paints in their line of paints.
-30- Bill Welch
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Re: K BraKE QUESTION
Guy Wilber
Dave Nelson asked: “I’m trying to find out what the air volume was for a typical KC brake reservoir?”
Dave, 1929 ARA Standards (attached). Guy Wilber Reno, Nevada
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K BraKE QUESTION
Dave Nelson
I’m trying to find out what the air volume was for a typical KC brake reservoir. Anyone know?
Dave Nelson
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Re: (Not A Freight Car) Slanted Loading Dock
Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Dennis,
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I don't have the complete building, but here are two partial views from about 15 years ago (with their NATX tank car for group content). The dock appears flat as a piece of paper. Yours Aye, Garth Groff
On 5/30/19 2:34 PM, Dennis Storzek
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On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 06:17 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote:
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Re: (Not A Freight Car) Slanted Loading Dock
Charlie Vlk
All- I hesitated to mention it, but since we’re still commenting on the photo, the caption says However, I would hate to have to roll a dolly or handtruck of material out of a car and up that slope to the floor of the building….controlling it on the dock would be fun as well!!! Charlie Vlk
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 06:17 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote:
Well that photo certainly makes clear the amount of pitch of the loading dock. Look at the piles of boxes on the dock, and how out of plumb they are sitting.
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Re: SRIX Refrigerator Cars
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Hi Ed and List Members,
Ed wrote: "A side-view builder photo of SRIX 101,
built 10-29, was published on p. 191 of the 1931 Car Builders’ Cyclopedia.
Drawings also appear on pages 190-192"
Note this same set of pages can be found in Train
Shed Cyc #3
Claus Schlund
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Re: (Not A Freight Car) Slanted Loading Dock
Dennis Storzek
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 06:17 PM, Eric Hansmann wrote:
Well that photo certainly makes clear the amount of pitch of the loading dock. Look at the piles of boxes on the dock, and how out of plumb they are sitting. Now that we can see the whole arrangement, I wonder if that isn't the oil house for the whole facility. Back in those days the philosophy was drainage rather than spill containment, and that pitch would certainly have any spills draining out onto the ground rather than pooling on the floor. Steamtown National Historic Site in Scranton has preserved a DL&W oil house that they use as a book store; it's one of the few original buildings on the site. I recall it has a loading dock, but I don't recall the pitch of the floor, nor can I find a photo of it. Dennis Storzek
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Re: SRIX Refrigerator Cars
Ed Hawkins
On May 30, 2019, at 9:46 AM, Steve and Barb Hile <shile@...> wrote: Apparently Safety Car Heating and Lighting operated a small fleet of Safety Refrigeration reefers with SRIX marks in the 1930's. Has anyone seen a photo of such? We ran into some Pullman drawings from lot 5457 yesterday at IRM. Steve, Pullman Lot 5457 was for 50 cars, SRIX 101-150. A side-view builder photo of SRIX 101, built 10-29, was published on p. 191 of the 1931 Car Builders’ Cyclopedia. Drawings also appear on pages 190-192. Side & end views of SRIX 138, built 1-30, were published on p. 112-113 of the book Great Yellow Fleet - photos credited to the Smithsonian Institution. Regards, Ed Hawkins
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Re: Survivor CN long double deck auto carrier in California
James Musgrove
Greetings to all who are interested in the original auto-train.
The RF&P RR Historical Society has published 2 books about this concept, one about the auto-train and another about Amtrak's Auto Train. Both books were written by Doug Riddell and tell the story of both companies. You can buy these books at www.rfandp.org. Jim Musgrove
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Re: Survivor CN long double deck auto carrier in California
Charlie Vlk
All-
For the record, Bachmann did the Auto-Train ex-CN cars in N Scale as well. Charlie Vlk
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Re: (Not A Freight Car) Slanted Loading Dock
Eric Hansmann
Thanks for your notes, Dennis. The photo angle and lighting made it difficult to see the truss rod details, even after some Photoshop massaging. I did notice the bolts below the coupler striker but thought those were mainly the striker attachment hardware. I did not realize they were associated with an inner pair of truss rods.
Thanks also for the notes on identifying steel centersills based upon draft sills. This will be handy when reviewing pre-1930s freight car photos.
Eric Hansmann Murfreesboro, TN
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis Storzek
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 10:15 AM, Donald B. Valentine wrote:
I disagree, I think iy is a four truss rod car, and we can only see the near side rods. The inner rods are quite close to the center sills, as evidenced by the placement of their terminating nuts on the striker casting, and therefore are quite far from the outer rods. If uou look carefully under the car you can see the brake cylinder on the near side of the center sills, and the queenpost on the inner truss rod is quite close behind the brake rod that that runs to the lever on the near end of the brake cylinder. We can only see halfway under the car.
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Re: SRIX Refrigerator Cars
Scott
There is at least one photo available. They had a short life span though as they were sold to the MDT and rebuilt into regular reefers.
Scott McDonald
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SRIX Refrigerator Cars
Apparently Safety
Car Heating and Lighting operated a small fleet of Safety Refrigeration reefers
with SRIX marks in the 1930's. Has anyone seen a photo of such? We
ran into some Pullman drawings from lot 5457 yesterday at
IRM.
Thanks,
Steve
Hile
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Re: Photo: Delivering A 1957 Chevy
My bad. I didn't know about the renumbering. The 25 cars are listed in the 1959 ORER - and they are marked "not for interchange". New trilevel 85 foot autoracks were delivered to TTX in 1960, and all of those were interchangeable with all railroads.
On 5/29/2019 11:03 PM, Ian Cranstone
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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