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Re: Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

 

Anyone else notice the $49.95 Rock Island 4-pack? I’ve told Rapido I want one!

https://www.rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-usra-double-sheathed-wood-boxcar

 

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Eric Hansmann <eric@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 10:47 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

 

I cannot determine the lettering from the on line illustrations. As far as I can tell, none of the illustrations show products with the as-built lettering that uses the pre-1927 ARA data guidelines. Brakes are easy to change out for back dating. Messing around with data lettering to follow as-built prototypes increases the work.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 10:34 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

 

Ha, and for folks modeling earlier eras, like me, which ones don’t.

 

Pax,

 

 

Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com

 

From: Michael Gross

Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:35 AM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

 

Yes, and will be curious to learn which have AB brakes...
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

Eric Hansmann
 

I cannot determine the lettering from the on line illustrations. As far as I can tell, none of the illustrations show products with the as-built lettering that uses the pre-1927 ARA data guidelines. Brakes are easy to change out for back dating. Messing around with data lettering to follow as-built prototypes increases the work.

 

 

Eric Hansmann

Murfreesboro, TN

 

 

 

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph W. Brown
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 10:34 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

 

Ha, and for folks modeling earlier eras, like me, which ones don’t.

 

Pax,

 

 

Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com

 

From: Michael Gross

Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:35 AM

Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

 

Yes, and will be curious to learn which have AB brakes...
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

Ralph W. Brown
 

Ha, and for folks modeling earlier eras, like me, which ones don’t.
 
Pax,
 
 
Ralph Brown
Portland, Maine
PRRT&HS No. 3966
NMRA No. L2532

rbrown51[at]maine[dot]rr[dot]com
 

From: Michael Gross
Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 9:35 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar
 
Yes, and will be curious to learn which have AB brakes...
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

 

A word of warning: the single cars are from the 4 car sets. If you order two, there’s no guarantee you’ll get two different numbers. And no chance of 5 different numbers.

 

However, Rapido did tell me that they plan different number sets later on.

 

 

Thanks!
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Brian Ehni

 


Re: Photo: C&NM Gondola 75235

al_brown03
 

Mm, C&N*W* I think.

Al Brown, Melbourne, Fla.


Re: Photo: C&NM Gondola 75235

Lloyd Keyser
 

Brodhead is on the the Mineral Point line out of Janesville, WI. My guess is it is being hand unloaded into a truck for one of the local Cheese factorys.
Lloyd Keyser

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 3:57 PM Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

Photo: C&NM Gondola 75235

This photo was taken after the era for this group but perhaps the car predates 1961.

http://www.brodheadhistory.org/bhsimages/images/1754.jpg

This was taken at Brodhead, Wisconsin. The coal load was to supply fuel for trips by a steam locomotive.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

William Hirt
 

According the Burlington Route Historical Society Freight Car Data Sheet on USRA Double Sheathed Boxcars, the USRA Double Sheathed Boxcars (series 120500-120999) built in December 1918 by AC&F were the last double sheathed boxcars the CB&Q purchased (Class XM-24). They were the only CB&Q boxcars built new with Andrews cast steel trucks. Other than resheathing in the 1930s and having a grab added to the left hand side of the car, not much in the way of visible changes were made to these cars (unlike other Q double sheathed boxcars). They kept their KC brakes until retired. They were all gone by the early 1950s.

Bill Hirt

On 6/4/2019 7:56 AM, Jon Miller wrote:
On 6/3/2019 3:23 PM, dalemuir2@... wrote:
Scroll down to single cars, $50 each and you have to reserve at least two.

    Almost all shops and mail order folks will split up the 4 packs.  Only thing now is I need to know what ones for my era, I know the Santa Fe didn't have any left by '41.  Got lots of time  they probably won't ship for a couple of years!:-D

-- 
._,_


Re: Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

Michael Gross
 

Yes, and will be curious to learn which have AB brakes...
--
Michael Gross
Pasadena, CA


Re: Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

Jon Miller <atsfus@...>
 

On 6/3/2019 3:23 PM, dalemuir2@... wrote:
Scroll down to single cars, $50 each and you have to reserve at least two.

    Almost all shops and mail order folks will split up the 4 packs.  Only thing now is I need to know what ones for my era, I know the Santa Fe didn't have any left by '41.  Got lots of time  they probably won't ship for a couple of years!:-D

-- 
Jon Miller
For me time stopped in 1941
Digitrax  Chief/Zephyr systems, JMRI User
SPROG User
NMRA Life member #2623
Member SFRH&MS


Re: Photo: PRR X25 Boxcar 83755

sooauthor@netzero.net
 

Those barrels contained dill pickles. Dill was added along with brine and small cucumbers to the barrels. They where then covered, rolled into a field, bung toward the top and left to ferment. Every so often the brine content was checked and water or salt added if needed. They were also rolled to redistribute the contents occasionally. By fall they were ready to be shipped to the processing plant for further treatment.
Regular pickles were made in the large tanks in the building in one of the photos. The Broadhead pickle company was a rather large operation in Wisconsin.
David Leider
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR AAR 65 foot gondola

Gatwood, Elden J SAD
 

Todd;

It was not a PRR G31, but what you said: an added PC class for rebuilt 52'6" gons with new fixed ends, after the elimination of the "LOT" system.

Yes, a G33, but I cannot tell if it is a G33 or G33B.

Elden Gatwood

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 12:43 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] PRR AAR 65 foot gondola

Tim,

Your observation is correct, and I noticed it too, although the photo is pretty fuzzy when you enlarge it.

I once photographed a 52' gon in Port Jervis in the mid-1970s that was painted PC green and lettered PC. It has all the features of a NYC/Greenville standard 52'-6" drop end mill gon except for rebuild solid ends, but had a class of G31T, which seemed like a PRR class. I never heard about PRR picking up any of the Greenville gons, so maybe the class was a PC invention. Who knows? Unfortunately, I just tossed my copy of PC car diagrams during the move to Texas last week. Maybe someone out there has a copy, or someone on the PC list.

Todd Sullivan.


Re: Photo: C&NW Gondola 75235

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Bob,

This car is an AAR 1941 design from C&NW series 75201-75399, built in 1953. I suspect the end braces are a later addition. IIRC, this car was offered by Sunshine, and is essentially the same as Accurail's 3700-series.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 6/3/19 4:57 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:

Photo: C&NM Gondola 75235

This photo was taken after the era for this group but perhaps the car predates 1961.

http://www.brodheadhistory.org/bhsimages/images/1754.jpg

This was taken at Brodhead, Wisconsin. The coal load was to supply fuel for trips by a steam locomotive.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA



Re: Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

Dale Muir
 

Check this out! I don't know if we need any. Scroll down to single cars, $50 each and you have to reserve at least two.

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of spsalso via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 3:36 PM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

 

Here's some more info:


https://www.rapidotrains.com/products/ho-scale/freight-cars/ho-scale-usra-double-sheathed-wood-boxcar



Ed

Edward Sutorik


Photo: PRR X25 Boxcar 83755

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: PRR X25 Boxcar 83755

http://www.brodheadhistory.org/bhsimages/images/2621.jpg

Caption: Pickle barrels are waiting to be loaded on to train cars at Colony Foods in Brodhead, Wisconsin, 1947.

Related Photos:

http://www.brodheadhistory.org/bhsimages/images/2619.jpg

http://www.brodheadhistory.org/bhsimages/images/2622.jpg

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Photo: C&NM Gondola 75235

Bob Chaparro
 
Edited

Photo: C&NW Gondola 75235

This photo was taken after the era for this group but perhaps the car predates 1961.

http://www.brodheadhistory.org/bhsimages/images/1754.jpg

This was taken at Brodhead, Wisconsin. The coal load was to supply fuel for trips by a steam locomotive.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: Rapido USRA 40-ton Boxcar

spsalso
 


Re: Photos: Gondola & Boxcar

gary laakso
 

Yes, we in the Law Department did care!

 

Gary Laakso

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 11:07 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Photos: Gondola & Boxcar

 

Eric Hansmann wrote:



While the gon is a former EP&SW car, the El Paso & Southwestern company was not merged into the SP until 1955. The SP leased the line starting November 1, 1924, but a formal merging was not until 29 years later.

 

   One of those typical railroad history minutiae, comparable to the fact that the Central Pacific, leased to SP in 1885, was not formally merged into SP until 1959. It might be safe to say about either factoid, that only an attorney would care.

 

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA

2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com

(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...

Publishers of books on railroad history

 

 



 


Re: Photos: Gondola & Boxcar

Tony Thompson
 

Eric Hansmann wrote:

While the gon is a former EP&SW car, the El Paso & Southwestern company was not merged into the SP until 1955. The SP leased the line starting November 1, 1924, but a formal merging was not until 29 years later.

   One of those typical railroad history minutiae, comparable to the fact that the Central Pacific, leased to SP in 1885, was not formally merged into SP until 1959. It might be safe to say about either factoid, that only an attorney would care.

Tony Thompson             Editor, Signature Press, Berkeley, CA
2906 Forest Ave., Berkeley, CA 94705         www.signaturepress.com
(510) 540-6538; e-mail, tony@...
Publishers of books on railroad history






Re: UP B-50-40 from IM UP B-50-52 kits?

Ken Adams
 

Ed 
I like your suggestion of USAX 26912-27231 as my currently planned replacement layout includes the SP Avon, Contra Costa (junction for the San Ramon Valley Branch) which is 1 mile west of the Port Chicago Naval Magazine/Munitions depot and could easily see empty (hopefully not loaded) cars awaiting return movement.

The problem lies in finding suitable decals and painting information for military boxcars. I ran into this when I decided to build one of the Port Chicago ex D&RGW 36 foot wood box cars from an Accurail 14xx car. Painting was not a problem as I located a color photo of one of the cars when it  was donated to the Western Railway Museum. On a visit to the museum I was able to inspect one of  the two cars donated and in spite of it being repainted to D&RGW box car red, the under frame an brake gear were still in Navy light battleship grey. But decals were a problem. I wound up using Clover House dry transfers which luckily were specific to the car but which did not go on to well. ( I just tried to add a photo but it did not upload. see https://srandsp.blogspot.com/2018/12/us-navy-box-car-from-port-chicago.html)


Re: PRR AAR 65 foot gondola

Tim O'Connor
 

Those rebuilt gondolas were indeed exNYC (or P&LE) Greenville (lot 150-G) gondolas.

Unfortunately, Terry Link has taken down his invaluable "Canada Southern" web site with NYC et al roster
information over misuse of a couple of photos!! Seems like a rather draconian solution to me! :-(

http://www.canadasouthern.com/caso/home.htm

Tim O'Connor

On 6/3/2019 12:42 PM, Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io wrote:
Tim,

Your observation is correct, and I noticed it too, although the photo is pretty fuzzy when you enlarge it.

I once photographed a 52' gon in Port Jervis in the mid-1970s that was painted PC green and lettered PC.  It has all the features of a NYC/Greenville standard 52'-6" drop end mill gon except for rebuild solid ends, but had a class of G31T, which seemed like a PRR class.  I never heard about PRR picking up any of the Greenville gons, so maybe the class was a PC invention.  Who knows?  Unfortunately, I just tossed my copy of PC car diagrams during the move to Texas last week.  Maybe someone out there has a copy, or someone on the PC list.

Todd Sullivan
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*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*

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