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Re: Paint Scheme for Swift 6700 Series Reefers

Marty McGuirk
 

Nelson, 


In an old issue of Rail Model Journal there was a two-page color photo showing a large number of Swift reefers - most of them in the red scheme. 


You might want to check that out - or maybe this photo on the Classic Trains website will answer the question - 

http://ctr.trains.com/photo-of-the-day/2017/09/swift-refrigerator-cars


Hope this helps, 


Marty McGuirk



On June 14, 2019 at 1:01 PM BRIAN PAUL EHNI <bpehni@...> wrote:

I, too, have two B&W photos. One is obviously red, the other yellow.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, June 14, 2019 at 11:48 AM
To: "RealSTMFC@groups.io" <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Paint Scheme for Swift 6700 Series Reefers

 

I’m building two Sunshine 6700 series reefers, and I only have two photos of these cars, both in black and white. SRLX 6723 is painted in the yellow banner scheme, and it’s clear that the underframe cover plates and sill steps are yellow, while the rest of the underframe is black. SRLX 6714 is painted in the red scheme, and it’s not possible to determine if the color plates and sill steps are red or black. I can’t tell if the end sills are red or black. I’d appreciate information about the red paint scheme for this car and any color photos available.

 

Nelson Moyer

 



 


 


Re: Paint Scheme for Swift 6700 Series Reefers

 

I, too, have two B&W photos. One is obviously red, the other yellow.

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Nelson Moyer <npmoyer@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Friday, June 14, 2019 at 11:48 AM
To: "RealSTMFC@groups.io" <RealSTMFC@groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Paint Scheme for Swift 6700 Series Reefers

 

I’m building two Sunshine 6700 series reefers, and I only have two photos of these cars, both in black and white. SRLX 6723 is painted in the yellow banner scheme, and it’s clear that the underframe cover plates and sill steps are yellow, while the rest of the underframe is black. SRLX 6714 is painted in the red scheme, and it’s not possible to determine if the color plates and sill steps are red or black. I can’t tell if the end sills are red or black. I’d appreciate information about the red paint scheme for this car and any color photos available.

 

Nelson Moyer


Paint Scheme for Swift 6700 Series Reefers

Nelson Moyer
 

I’m building two Sunshine 6700 series reefers, and I only have two photos of these cars, both in black and white. SRLX 6723 is painted in the yellow banner scheme, and it’s clear that the underframe cover plates and sill steps are yellow, while the rest of the underframe is black. SRLX 6714 is painted in the red scheme, and it’s not possible to determine if the color plates and sill steps are red or black. I can’t tell if the end sills are red or black. I’d appreciate information about the red paint scheme for this car and any color photos available.

 

Nelson Moyer


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Coil steel loads

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Mike,

Try this: https://www.wplives.org/sn/gon.html  . Here is some additional background: https://www.wplives.org/sn/steel.html .

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

On 6/14/19 9:23 AM, Michael Aufderheide wrote:
Does anyone have a prototype photo they could share.  I don't think i have seen a photo of coils shipped uncovered.  Is there a spool as with cable?

Best Regards,

Mike Aufderheide


Re: Nice view of SOU 300366 flat

Benjamin Hom
 

Jim Moore asked:
"Why don't these hoppers have car numbers or other data stenciled on them?"

New or rebuilt cars that haven't taken a trip over the scales yet.


Ben Hom


Re: Throwback Thursday Old Kitbash PRR NX23 cabin car

Denny Anspach <danspachmd@...>
 

Wow! That is simply beautiful modeling at its best, a “role model”. The only simple improvement that comes directly to mind would be the replacement of the “gigantic" couplers with the Accumate Protos with their close-to-scale head and accurate striker/striker distance.

Denny


Denny S. Anspach MD
Okoboji, IA


Re: Nice view of SOU 300366 flat

 

 Why don't these hoppers have car numbers or other data stenciled on them?
 Jim Moore


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Coil steel loads

Nelson Moyer
 

The Morning Sun Books eBook bundle, Open Top Loads – Flatcar and Gondola Color Portfolio, Volume 1 & 2, have at least ten photos of open top coil loads in addition to many closed top coil cars, structural steel loads, and many other types of loads. You can buy and download the eBook for $19.99, and while you’re at it, you may as well get the bundle of Volumes 3 & 4. The photos in these two eBooks will provide all the information you need to model virtually (no pun intended) any open top load.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Aufderheide
Sent: Friday, June 14, 2019 8:23 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Coil steel loads

 

Does anyone have a prototype photo they could share.  I don't think i have seen a photo of coils shipped uncovered.  Is there a spool as with cable?

Best Regards,

Mike Aufderheide

 


Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Coil steel loads

 

Does anyone have a prototype photo they could share.  I don't think i have seen a photo of coils shipped uncovered.  Is there a spool as with cable?

Best Regards,

Mike Aufderheide


Re: L&N 18979

Tim O'Connor
 


The car paint date is stenciled 3-32 (hidden in this photo, but visible in others
of the same car load) and the photo is from June 8, 1932

no idea why that stencil was put up there


On 6/13/2019 7:17 PM, Bill Welch wrote:
On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 07:09 PM, David Soderblom wrote:
Someone please explain the 2-inch lettering above the “L&N” in the second panel: “RR-soemthing-something.”  That stencil is a new one for me.
 
 
Are there good quality prints available of this?  I find this an artistic image.
 

David Soderblom
Baltimore MD USA
 
It reads RR- 3-32, perhaps a paint date. These are Hi-Res scans, what not have it printed by someone that does digital prints?

Bill Welch

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: L&N 18979

Curt Fortenberry
 


I agree with Dennis.  L&N in later years had a paint code in the far upper left that would include the paint used or shop code that repainted the car. 

Curt Fortenberry 


Steel running boards for PFE R-70-2

peteraue
 

A good friend wants to modernize his Sunshine kits # 25.1/2/3 and put Apex Trilock running boards on his R-70-2 reefers. He asked me to provide him with custom photo-etched RBs with accurate spacing to match the ribs on the roof. There will be a very limited number of extra parts for others. Please raise your hand if you want them. $ 5 each plus shipping. Delivery time approximately 3 months. First come, first serve.

Peter Aue


Re: Coil steel loads

Mark Vinski
 

Cut some styrene sheet of the proper thickness into strips of the appropriate width and roll them into coils. Use something round of the proper diameter for the center hole to roll them around.

Mark Vinski


Re: Nice view of SOU 300366 flat

mike turner
 

David,

Thanks for the correction.

I was unaware of either of these SOU car types.

Mike

MP-Z35

On 6/13/2019 9:05 PM, David via Groups.Io wrote:
Those are conventional wood-frame hoppers, not Seley composite cars. The closely-spaced vertical wood posts and the horizontal truss rod in the side above the "Southern" lettering are typical of late pre-steel hoppers.

The car to the left is one of Southern's handful of 1905 Common Design hoppers (possibly 285027 according to the chalk mark), SOU 285000-285149 (ex CNO&TP 19250-19399) or SOU 321000-321599 (ex AGS 14000-14599).
https://exploreuk.uky.edu/catalog/xt7n8p5v9x1t_11_2

David Thompson

--
Mike Turner
MP-Z35


Re: Univ of KY Digital Archives

Benjamin Hom
 

Dave Soderblom asked:
"Radial roof, right?"

Bit of a non-sequitur - which car are you referring to? If the B&O Class M-55H, the answer is no.


Ben Hom


Nice view of SOU 300366 flat

David
 

Those are conventional wood-frame hoppers, not Seley composite cars. The closely-spaced vertical wood posts and the horizontal truss rod in the side above the "Southern" lettering are typical of late pre-steel hoppers.

The car to the left is one of Southern's handful of 1905 Common Design hoppers (possibly 285027 according to the chalk mark), SOU 285000-285149 (ex CNO&TP 19250-19399) or SOU 321000-321599 (ex AGS 14000-14599).
https://exploreuk.uky.edu/catalog/xt7n8p5v9x1t_11_2

David Thompson


Re: this excellent view of AGS 10804 precursor to SU class

gary laakso
 

The bolsters are single “I” beams in the picture and double on the later Southern cars.

Gary Laakso


On Jun 13, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Ray Breyer via Groups.Io <rtbsvrr69@...> wrote:

More like 1916:
"SU" just means "steel underframe", and isn't really a Southern Ry. car designation (from what I can tell, they didn't have any, just engineering drawing designations which were far longer that two characters). And car 150555 here matches the later 1920s cars within a couple of inches (except inside dimensions, of course).

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Thursday, June 13, 2019, 4:05:33 PM CDT, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:


It appears to be a very late predecessor of the Southern SU boxcar, whose construction started in 1922.  A great find, Claus.   

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 1:49 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] this excellent view of AGS 10804

 

Hi List Members,

 

Some might enjoy this excellent view of AGS 10804, a 36ft ds trussrod boxcar

 

See link below.

 

 

Claus Schlund

 


Re: Nice view of SOU 300366 flat

mike turner
 

The 2 SOU Seley hoppers behind it are pretty nice, too.

Displaying my ignorance, the apparently SOU hopper to the left has interesting lettering. WT 34000?

Time to curl up on the sofa with an ORER...

Mike

MP-Z35

On 6/13/2019 6:12 PM, Claus Schlund &#92;(HGM&#92;) wrote:
Hi List Members,
 
Nice view of SOU 300366 flat
 
 
Enjoy!
 
Claus Schlund
 
-- 
Mike Turner
MP-Z35


Re: this excellent view of AGS 10804

Ray Breyer
 

More like 1916:
"SU" just means "steel underframe", and isn't really a Southern Ry. car designation (from what I can tell, they didn't have any, just engineering drawing designations which were far longer that two characters). And car 150555 here matches the later 1920s cars within a couple of inches (except inside dimensions, of course).

Ray Breyer
Elgin, IL


On Thursday, June 13, 2019, 4:05:33 PM CDT, gary laakso <vasa0vasa@...> wrote:


It appears to be a very late predecessor of the Southern SU boxcar, whose construction started in 1922.  A great find, Claus.   

 

Gary Laakso

Northwest of Mike Brock

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> On Behalf Of Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 1:49 PM
To: STMFC <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: [RealSTMFC] this excellent view of AGS 10804

 

Hi List Members,

 

Some might enjoy this excellent view of AGS 10804, a 36ft ds trussrod boxcar

 

See link below.

 

 

Claus Schlund

 


Re: L&N 18979

Dennis Storzek
 

On Thu, Jun 13, 2019 at 04:17 PM, Bill Welch wrote:
It reads RR- 3-32, perhaps a paint date. These are Hi-Res scans, what not have it printed by someone that does digital prints?
My first guess, stenciled high on the car like that, is RE-ROOFED 3-32 or ROOF RE-NEWED 3-32. These were railroad specific, non standard stencils that changed with time. Basically, anything the car dept. wanted to track the longevity of.

Dennis Storzek

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