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Re: Mathieson Tank Cars (Caustic Soda)
Dave Parker
Definitely not glass, and I am skeptical there were very many epoxy-lined cars in the steam era. I can't find my copy of Kaminski with its handy table of commodities and car types, but I'm guessing caustic soda was largely handled in conventional steel cars, or in those lined with a nickel alloy. I'm confident that the metallurgist among us will have a more definitive answer. ;-)
Dave Parker Riverside, CA
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Mathieson Tank Cars
Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
It also did a hell of a job bringing down the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City. Don Valentine
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Re: Mathieson Tank Cars (Caustic Soda)
lars svanevik
It had to be epoxy. Glass is soluble in caustic soda (sodium hydroxide).
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:37 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Mathieson Tank Cars (Caustic Soda) Around 1990 I took a tour of the GATX maintenance facility in Colton, CA. I recall the company tour guide told us caustic soda was the most problematic load they carried in their cars. He stated the glass (or was it epoxy?) lined tank cars would be good
for about six loads before they had to be brought in, their interiors cleaned with metal shot and then relined.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: 1937 AAR boxcar
Paul Doggett
Ben
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Thank you Paul Doggett.
On 18 Jul 2019, at 20:51, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:
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Re: 1937 AAR boxcar
Benjamin Hom
Paul Doggett asked: "I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?" Des Plaines Hobbies, part number DPH2004. Ben Hom
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1937 AAR boxcar with wrong roof 😞😞😞
Paul Doggett
I built this without realising it should have a Viking roof 😞😞😞
Paul Doggett. England 🏴
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1937 AAR boxcar
Paul Doggett
I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?
Or I will have to strip it and re decal it for SP Thank you Paul Doggett. England 🏴 Paul
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Re: 5th Avenue Car Shops/Accurail CB&Q XM-30 Boxcar
Todd Sullivan
Dave,
More photos here: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rslist.aspx?id=CBQ&cid=2&Page=3 A great shot including the roof is here: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=373991 Todd Sullivan.
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Re: Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar
Kemal Mumcu
I went to the CP Historical Association Website and their database is incredible with lots of diagrams and information to glean.
Anyway: Series 225300-225349 had National "B" trucks and also Ajax brake gear. I mentioned earlier that CP experimented with different trucks on this series of car but I was wrong; they experimented with the various manufacturers' brake gear but the 50 cars with the National Trucks came with Ajax brakes. Colin Meikle
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Re: Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar
Kemal Mumcu
Just a note that I believe we are talking about the 1932 (actually built in 1936) boxcar and not the 1929 "Minibox" boxcar. The Dalman trucks from Tahoe look a bit different to me than the Dalman trucks on the 1932 boxcar. Quite a few of the "Miniboxes" did come with Dalman trucks that look identical to what Tahoe offers but that is a different subject.
Out of the 700 1932 boxcars build only 50 came with the National Type B trucks. I used to have information suggesting the number series these cars were in but I can't seem to find it right now. I will PM you Scott if I come across that information in the next day or two. Colin Meikle
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Re: Mathieson Tank Cars (Caustic Soda)
Around 1990 I took a tour of the GATX maintenance facility in Colton, CA. I recall the company tour guide told us caustic soda was the most problematic load they carried in their cars. He stated the glass (or was it epoxy?) lined tank cars would be good for about six loads before they had to be brought in, their interiors cleaned with metal shot and then relined.
Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar ( freight car paint schemes)
Dick Harley produced this presentation on Union Pacific painting and lettering schemes covering 1940 to 1975: https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/UP-PLN-FRT/2010-UP-Freight-PLN-Clinic/ The presentation is part of this UP Freight Car Painting & Lettering information: https://harley-trains.smugmug.com/UP-PLN-FRT Bob Chaparro Hemet, CA
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Re: 5th Avenue Car Shops/Accurail CB&Q XM-30 Boxcar
Benjamin Hom
Dave North asked:
"I have a 5th Avenue Car Shops decorated Accurail 40’ Wood Boxcar kit. The road number is 26528. Can anyone point me to an article on this series in any of the popular hobby magazines, please – or photos? I particularly want to determine the style of stirrups and the design of the center sill. The instruction suggest the underframe should be straight rather than a fishbelly. Also want to confirm if that is correct." Here's a photo of one in work service. http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1165099 Ben Hom
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5th Avenue Car Shops/Accurail CB&Q XM-30 Boxcar
David North
I have a 5th Avenue Car Shops decorated Accurail 40’ Wood Boxcar kit. The road number is 26528. Can anyone point me to an article on this series in any of the popular hobby magazines, please – or photos? I particularly want to determine the style of stirrups and the design of the center sill. The instruction suggest the underframe should be straight rather than a fishbelly. Also want to confirm if that is correct. Thanks in advance for any help. Cheers Dave
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Re: Mathieson Tank Cars
To illustrate Ben's point - a GATC Type 17 built in 1918, photographed in 1957. The age of the tank was probably important enough to record the built date clearly on the tank.
On 7/18/2019 8:42 AM, Benjamin Hom wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Mathieson Tank Cars
Perhaps not used together, but sometimes produced together. I think the Penn Salt and Hooker plants in Tacoma made both. Both products would be used in the northwest and west coast.
On 7/18/2019 7:34 AM, Bruce Smith wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Mathieson Tank Cars
Hazard Placards 2029 and 2030.
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Highly Corrosive - so either a glass lined or aluminum tank.
On 7/18/2019 12:58 AM, C J Wyatt wrote:
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*Tim O'Connor* *Sterling, Massachusetts*
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Re: Mathieson Tank Cars
Claus Schlund \(HGM\)
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Hi Ben,
Your statement is of course completely correct - I
was refering to the notion that nothing about this car's construction makes
a 1919 build date plausible.
Claus Schlund
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Re: Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar
Benjamin Hom
Tony Thompson asked: "The comment below stimulates me to ask if there is a summary list anywhere of landmark dates for freight car paint schemes. A further example might be, 'UP changes all lettering to yellow, 1947.' Anyone?" > The CP was repainting their steel cars with "Spans The World" starting in 1947 and so these cars would be being painted as well. John Nehrich took a shot at it - the results are on the pay side of the RPI website. Ben Hom
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Re: Mathieson Tank Cars
Benjamin Hom
Claus Schlund wrote: "I like how the car is stencilled NEW 8-19 LOL!" Not weird at all. Tank cars were billed by volume, not weight, so they were light weighed only once during their service lives - when built. We've pointed this out numerous times over they years on both lists. Ben Hom
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