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Re: freight car paint schemes

Tony Thompson
 

al.kresse wrote:

Are you only interested in western railroads? Every type of revenue producing car? . . . or also M&W and cabooses? What eras . . . . 1900-1972 say for the C&O? . . . or 1926-1962? etc.?
All major railroads, only revenue cars; my personal interest is the transition era, but I think something like your suggestion of 1900-1972 would be good (or until a railroad was absorbed by someone else).

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com


Re: freight car paint schemes was:[RealSTMFC] Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar

al.kresse <water.kresse@...>
 

Are you only interested in western railroads? Every type of revenue producing car? . . . or also M&W and cabooses? What eras . . . . 1900-1972 say for the C&O? . . . or 1926-1962? etc.?

Al Kresse

On July 18, 2019 at 7:55 PM Tony Thompson <tony@signaturepress.com> wrote:


I didn't have in mind a COMPLETE list of EVERY change on EVERY railroad. But many of us could benefit from a timeline of MAJOR changes on the big railroads. I don't think it would have to be huge, though of course some railroads were pretty changeable.
Likely few if any of us could sit down and write it. But most of us know ONE railroad (or a few) well enough to summarize. That's the kind of thing I meant. I can offer an SP one and a few other roads I know.

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com






Sold out of all remaining 40' Viking roofs.

Andy Carlson
 

I have no more Viking roofs to offer.
Thanks,
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA


Re: freight car paint schemes was:[RealSTMFC] Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar

Tony Thompson
 

I didn't have in mind a COMPLETE list of EVERY change on EVERY railroad. But many of us could benefit from a timeline of MAJOR changes on the big railroads. I don't think it would have to be huge, though of course some railroads were pretty changeable.
Likely few if any of us could sit down and write it. But most of us know ONE railroad (or a few) well enough to summarize. That's the kind of thing I meant. I can offer an SP one and a few other roads I know.

Tony Thompson
tony@signaturepress.com


Re: 5th Avenue Car Shops/Accurail CB&Q XM-30 Boxcar

David North
 

Hi Todd,

Thanks for your link to the CB&Q XM-30 photos.

Cheers

Dave


Re: 5th Avenue Car Shops/Accurail CB&Q XM-30 Boxcar

David North
 

HI Ben,

Thanks very much for the link to the photo of the XM-30.

That answers my questions re the stirrups.

Cheers

Dave


Side & end ladder variations

Tom Madden
 

When scanning negatives at the Colorado RR Museum I'm always on the lookout for things that might interest steam era modelers. The attached photo shows the "A" ends of IC (left) and UP (right) boxcars of similar construction, with identical "rolling pin" Improved Dreadnought ends and 7-rung ladders. But look at the differences in the tops of the ladders, where the stiles terminate. The rungs, as far as I can tell, are in the same locations on the two cars.

Tom Madden


Test. Ignore

Mikebrock
 

Test. Please Ignore

 

Mike Brock

STMFC Owner


1937 AAR boxcar Vikiong roof

Andy Carlson
 

Hello Paul-

I have many HO Viking roofs available to anyone with a need.
<midcentury@...>
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 12:47:29 PM PDT, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:



I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?
Or I will have to strip it and re decal it for SP


Thank you Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
Paul


Re: freight car paint schemes was:[RealSTMFC] Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar

Peter Ness
 

I'm sure there are some modelers and historians with information on specific railroads - the Canadian Southern website has some info on NYC paint schemes, likewise Rob's PRR web site for that railroad...I don't think anyone has contemplated a summary for all freight car paint schemes for all railroads...'twould be a Herculean endeavor of unimaginable proportion at minimum!
...Besides, all boxcars pre-WWII were freight car red, right :D (ducking for cover, but only kidding, folks!)

Peter Ness

-----Original Message-----
From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 6:32 PM
To: main@realstmfc.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar

The comment below stimulates me to ask if there is a summary list anywhere of landmark dates for freight car paint schemes. A further example might be, “UP changes all lettering to yellow, 1947.”
Anyone?
The CP was repainting their steel cars with "Spans The World" starting in 1947 and so these cars woulf be being painted as well.


Re: Mathieson Tank Cars (Caustic Soda)

Dave Parker
 

Definitely not glass, and I am skeptical there were very many epoxy-lined cars in the steam era.  I can't find my copy of Kaminski with its handy table of commodities and car types, but I'm guessing caustic soda was largely handled in conventional steel cars, or in those lined with a nickel alloy.  I'm confident that the metallurgist among us will have a more definitive answer.  ;-)

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: [Non-DoD Source] [RealSTMFC] Mathieson Tank Cars

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

It also did a hell of a job bringing down the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.

Don Valentine


Re: Mathieson Tank Cars (Caustic Soda)

lars svanevik
 

It  had to be epoxy.  Glass is soluble in caustic soda (sodium hydroxide).   


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io <chiefbobbb@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Mathieson Tank Cars (Caustic Soda)
 
Around 1990 I took a tour of the GATX maintenance facility in Colton, CA. I recall the company tour guide told us caustic soda was the most problematic load they carried in their cars. He stated the glass (or was it epoxy?) lined tank cars would be good for about six loads before they had to be brought in, their interiors cleaned with metal shot and then relined.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: 1937 AAR boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

Ben 

Thank you 


Paul Doggett.


On 18 Jul 2019, at 20:51, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Paul Doggett asked:
"I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?"

Des Plaines Hobbies, part number DPH2004.


Ben Hom




Re: 1937 AAR boxcar

Benjamin Hom
 

Paul Doggett asked:
"I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?"

Des Plaines Hobbies, part number DPH2004.


Ben Hom




1937 AAR boxcar with wrong roof 😞😞😞

Paul Doggett
 

I built this without realising it should have a Viking roof 😞😞😞

Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


1937 AAR boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?
Or I will have to strip it and re decal it for SP


Thank you Paul Doggett. England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Paul


Re: 5th Avenue Car Shops/Accurail CB&Q XM-30 Boxcar

Todd Sullivan
 


Re: Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar

Kemal Mumcu
 

I went to the CP Historical Association Website and their database is incredible with lots of diagrams and information to glean. 

Anyway:  Series 225300-225349 had National "B" trucks and also Ajax brake gear.  I mentioned earlier that CP experimented with different trucks on this series of car but I was wrong; they experimented with the various manufacturers' brake gear but the 50 cars with the National Trucks came with Ajax brakes. 

Colin Meikle


Re: Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar

Kemal Mumcu
 

Just a note that I believe we are talking about the 1932 (actually built in 1936) boxcar and not the 1929 "Minibox" boxcar.  The Dalman trucks from Tahoe look a bit different to me than the Dalman trucks on the 1932 boxcar.  Quite a few of the "Miniboxes" did come with Dalman trucks that look identical to what Tahoe offers but that is a different subject. 

Out of the 700 1932 boxcars build only 50 came with the National Type B trucks.  I used to have information suggesting the number series these cars were in but I can't seem to find it right now.  I will PM you Scott if I come across that information in the next day or two. 

Colin Meikle

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