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Re: 1937 AAR boxcar with wrong roof 😞😞😞

Paul Doggett
 

Nathan 

I model 1950-3 

Cheers 
Paul Doggett 


On 19 Jul 2019, at 17:55, Nathan Obermeyer via Groups.Io <obermeyern@...> wrote:

Paul,

What year do you model? In 1963 these cars received a new side sill, roof, and doors. I've attached an as built image and a rebuilt image from 1976 after the merger with the Mopac.

Nate

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Re: Atlas Freight Car Announcement

Benjamin Hom
 

RJ Dial asked:
"...are you able to determine what the variants 1,2 & 5 are referring to in terms of details for configuration?"

Atlas went through the trouble to tool different variations of the 1932 ARA steel boxcar as follows:
#1 - Long tab body, Murphy Panel Roof, 4/4 Dreadnaught Ends
#2 - Long tab body, 11 panel flat riveted roof, flat-riveted ends
#3 - Short tab body, Hutchins radial roof, 4/4 Dreadnaught ends
#4 - Short tab body, Viking corrugated roof, Buckeye ends
#5 - Long tab body, 11 panel flat riveted roof, 4/4 Dreadnaught ends
#6 - Long tab body, Viking corrugated roof, 4/4 Dreadnaught ends
#7 - Long tab body, Murphy panel roof, flat riveted end

Link to Ed hawkins' spreadsheet detailing variations here:


Ben Hom







Re: 1937 AAR boxcar with wrong roof 😞😞😞

Nathan Obermeyer
 

Paul,

What year do you model? In 1963 these cars received a new side sill, roof, and doors. I've attached an as built image and a rebuilt image from 1976 after the merger with the Mopac.

Nate


Re: Mathieson Tank Cars (Vendome Tank Car Company)

Bob Chaparro
 

Vendome Desk Blotters

One example:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/350981490550

There are other Vendome desk blotters to be seen on E-Bay. Just search for Vendome + Blotter
The blotters are like large business cars and contain company information plus comic illustrations.

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: 5th Avenue Car Shops/Accurail CB&Q XM-30 Boxcar

David North
 

Hi Tim,

I think I picked this kit up on n of my US trips back prior to 2006.

This website worked OK for me just now.

http://www.accurail.com/accurail/art/custom/carshops/carshops.htm

Doesn’t appear to have been updated since mid 2017.

Is that the one you were trying?

Cheers

Dave


Re: Mathieson Tank Cars (Caustic Soda)

Dave Parker
 

Bob, I don't doubt it, but this was in the 1990s wasn't it?  I am not aware of epoxy-lined cars in the steam era, especially pre-WWII.  But there were plenty of caustic soda tank cars around back then.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: Atlas Freight Car Announcement

radiodial868
 

Bill, are you able to determine what the variants 1,2 & 5 are referring to in terms of details for configuration?
RJ Dial
Burlingame, CA


Re: Mathieson Tank Cars (Caustic Soda)

Bob Chaparro
 

Dave, if it wasn't glass then he said epoxy. They had a number of cars in the same area all undergoing renewal of their epoxy linings.
Bob Chaparro
Hemet, CA


Re: Atlas Freight Car Announcement

Aley, Jeff A
 

A quick look at page 48 of the Atlas summer 2019 catalog (http://download.atlasrr.com/0619MCPDF/Summer2019MSRPOnly.pdf shows that these are new paint schemes on their existing meat reefer. 

 

Atlas says, “PROTOTYPE INFORMATION: The 36’ reefer is a highly detailed model of the car that was a mainstay in the meatpacking industry during the steam era. Based upon cars built by the General American Car Company for the Cudahy Packing Co. in 1925, the 36’ wood reefer is representative of the thousands of cars that transported meat, dairy, beer and food products well into the 1960’s.”

 

Regards,

 

-Jeff

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dave Parker via Groups.Io
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Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Atlas Freight Car Announcement

 

I am intrigued by the three variations in the 36' meat reefers, and also prefer the undecs.  Body Style 2 looks like it might be close to some Swift prototypes.  No photo yet for Body Type 1.  I am wary of the operational doors and hatches, but maybe they can be made to look OK.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: Atlas Freight Car Announcement

Dave Parker
 

I am intrigued by the three variations in the 36' meat reefers, and also prefer the undecs.  Body Style 2 looks like it might be close to some Swift prototypes.  No photo yet for Body Type 1.  I am wary of the operational doors and hatches, but maybe they can be made to look OK.

Dave Parker
Riverside, CA


Re: Side & end ladder variations

Tim O'Connor
 


Good point. I've long been aware (since I learned there were different numbers
of rungs) of ladder variations and have tried, at least, to locate them based on
photos. And I've trimmed more than a few at top and bottom to try and match a
prototype.



On 7/18/2019 7:13 PM, Tom Madden via Groups.Io wrote:
When scanning negatives at the Colorado RR Museum I'm always on the lookout for things that might interest steam era modelers. The attached photo shows the "A" ends of IC (left) and UP (right) boxcars of similar construction, with identical "rolling pin" Improved Dreadnought ends and 7-rung ladders. But look at the differences in the tops of the ladders, where the stiles terminate. The rungs, as far as I can tell, are in the same locations on the two cars.

Tom Madden

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Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: 5th Avenue Car Shops/Accurail CB&Q XM-30 Boxcar

Tim O'Connor
 

I haven't been able to reach that web site for ages... it just sits there forever.

On 7/18/2019 2:05 PM, Todd Sullivan via Groups.Io wrote:
Dave,

More photos here: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rslist.aspx?id=CBQ&cid=2&Page=3
A great shot including the roof is here: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=373991

Todd Sullivan
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: 1937 AAR boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

Hi Tony 

I emailed them but they have not come back to me with a price for postage to the United Kingdom.
I have a friend in Illinois who deals with them so I have asked him to get me one. 

Many thanks Paul 


On 19 Jul 2019, at 12:28, anthony wagner <anycw1@...> wrote:

Paul, Des Plaines Hobbies has Viking roofs as separate parts. Tony Wagner

On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 2:47:29 PM CDT, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:



I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?
Or I will have to strip it and re decal it for SP


Thank you Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Paul



Re: 1937 AAR boxcar

anthony wagner
 

Paul, Des Plaines Hobbies has Viking roofs as separate parts. Tony Wagner

On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 2:47:29 PM CDT, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:



I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?
Or I will have to strip it and re decal it for SP


Thank you Paul Doggett.  England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Paul



Re: Mathieson Tank Cars

RICH CHAPIN
 

both are bases, anhydrous ammonia weak, caustic strong, net result of mixing would be to drive ammonia gas out, not good it uncontrolled conditions.
now in a production facility with controls?, could be. I would think no shipping in adjacent tank cars

Rich Chapin 


Atlas Freight Car Announcement

Bill Welch
 

This link shows a few freight car releases for the era of this group. I like undecorated and so the three 1932 variations are of interest to me plus I think I may get one of the little meat reefers: https://mycaboose.com/new-releases/atlas-ho-rolling-stock-summer-advanced-reservations?utm_source=Caboose+Newsletter&utm_campaign=e5cbde1b3e-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_03_09_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_907397b93c-e5cbde1b3e-100264421&mc_cid=e5cbde1b3e&mc_eid=fef507ff99

Not sure why "ATHEARN" is present but I think it can be ignored

Bill Welch


Re: 1937 AAR boxcar

Paul Doggett
 

The mistake is mine not Andy Carlson’s I did not do my research properly.

Paul Doggett England.




On 19 Jul 2019, at 02:51, Andy Carlson <midcentury@...> wrote:

It may be inferred that I sold a faulty kit going by today's post from Paul
Doggett. I would like to mention that I have never offered for sale a C&EI Enhanced kit, so the mistake was not mine.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 12:54:27 PM PDT, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:


Ben 

Thank you 


Paul Doggett.


On 18 Jul 2019, at 20:51, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Paul Doggett asked:
"I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?"

Des Plaines Hobbies, part number DPH2004.


Ben Hom




Re: 1937 AAR boxcar Vikiong roof

Benjamin Scanlon
 

Just looking at these Viking roof '37 cars as a Viking roof has been done in TT to be matched with the old Gold Coast boxcar.  I get C&EI, C&O, ERIE, NKP, Norfolk Southern (orig.) and some US military owners like Navy yards and the like.  With the addition of CMO/CNW for the improved AAR (at least doable, since I have my own improved '37 end master.)

Would there be any noted secondhand or 'wrecker' '37 AAR cars with Viking roofs? 

Regards
--
Ben Scanlon
Tottenham, England


1937 AAR boxcar

Andy Carlson
 

It may be inferred that I sold a faulty kit going by today's post from Paul
Doggett. I would like to mention that I have never offered for sale a C&EI Enhanced kit, so the mistake was not mine.
-Andy Carlson
Ojai CA

On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 12:54:27 PM PDT, Paul Doggett via Groups.Io <paul.doggett2472@...> wrote:


Ben 

Thank you 


Paul Doggett.


On 18 Jul 2019, at 20:51, Benjamin Hom <b.hom@...> wrote:

Paul Doggett asked:
"I posted a photo today of an Andy Carlson Red Caboose 1937 AAR square cornered boxcar decaled for C&EI only to learn it should have a Viking roof big clanger on my part where can I get a Viking roof?"

Des Plaines Hobbies, part number DPH2004.


Ben Hom




Re: Funaro 1932 CP Boxcar ( freight car paint schemes)

eastwest40
 

Hello,


Is there a way to get this Dick Harley presentation in print or book form? If so what is the cost?


I have trouble reading from a screen and this would be a great help.


Chuck Seemann    Aurora, Colorado

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