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Re: P&LE gons, and nice ingot mold loads

brianleppert@att.net
 

Tim O'Connor wrote "GYPSUM or TRANSCO running board on Rock Island 25189?"

And isn't that a Morton lateral r.b.?

Brian Leppert
Carson City, NV


941st Field Artillery Equipment move in 1943

John Barry
 

In the fall of 1943, the 941st Field Artillery deployed from Camp Polk LA to the Desert Training Center at Freda CA on Santa Fe's Parker Branch.  I found a memorandum copy of the Government Bill of Lading in the National Archives and have written a short blog post that includes images of the seven page GBL and a link to a spread sheet with the car numbers and loads.


Not quite over Cajon, but a typical artillery unit move for 1943.  The personnel would have gone in a separate Passenger MAIN train.  

John Barry
 
ATSF North Bay Lines 
Golden Gates & Fast Freights 
Lovettsville, VA

707-490-9696 

PO Box 44736 
Washington, DC 20026-4736


Re: Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051

mopacfirst
 

It looks like a coke drum.

In a delayed coker, which produces petroleum coke, the reaction occurs in the heater and on the way to the drum, where the coke settles out and the light hydrocarbon vapors go out the top.  Here, top is to the left as the drum is positioned on the flatcar.  The drum gradually fills with coke over an approximately 18-hour cycle, then when it's filled there's a switch valve that sends the stream of coke into another drum without stopping the flow.  Then the fun begins.  The drum is deheaded (opening the bottom "head") and high-pressure lances are used from the top to break up the 900 degree coke and send it out the bottom into a chute to the coke pile, where it becomes hopper car loads en route to coke users.  Once the drum is empty, it's kept warn until its turn comes to be re-filled.

Driving past a refinery, the coker unit is distinctive and plainly visible as two or three of these drums high up in a structure, with what looks like a drilling rig on top.  That's the structure that supports the process of lancing the coke.  The only nozzles on the drum, other than the vapor flow out near the top, are those small thermowell nozzles which are mounted at an angle along the drum to detect the temperatures inside the drum as it's filled.  The supports for the drum are at the top of the conical section, which is at the deheading deck level, sometimes called the tabletop.  In the steam era, the deheading was an extremely dirty and dangerous job.

Perhaps more than you wanted to know.

Ron Merrick


Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051

Bob Chaparro
 

Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051

A photo from 1956:

https://searcharchives.vancouver.ca/milwaukee-road-rly-flat-car-loaded-with-tank

Click on the photo to enlarge it.

Anyone know what the vessel is?

Bob Chaparro

Hemet, CA


Re: P&LE gons, and nice ingot mold loads

James E Kubanick
 

These were a common sight during the '50s and '60s when I lived in Pittsburgh. The molds were always loaded two to a car and placed over the trucks, due to their weight. And, yes, the RIX molds are a good representation.

Jim Kubanick
Morgantown WV

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019, 7:42:15 PM EDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:



GYPSUM or TRANSCO running board on Rock Island 25189? :-)

Built by Pullman Standard in 1946, just three years old here.

Tim O'



On 7/31/2019 12:30 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
> Gang;
>
> Nice P&LE gon shot.  These are the big ingot molds they used at USS Homestead:
>
> https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A8223.1292.RR/from_search/073e3079268f9048485fa504df4f84f5-990
>
> I think the RIX molds are similar.  I remember the new molds being shipped in were a combo of black, new rust and mold release white, in color.
>
> Elden Gatwood


--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*




Re: Getting decals printed

Benjamin Hom
 

Tim O'Connor wrote:
"Kadee printed decals for our train club. They're ok, but I'll say that their white lettering is almost invisible on the paper and not
as opaque as you may want it to be."

Lack of visibility on the paper can be dealt with by using a black magic marker on the back of the sheet.  Lack of opacity is a bigger problem (I remember using several old Walthers gold leaf decal sets, each over the top of the previous application, to letter a locomotive years ago), but it might be useful in doing faded lettering.


Ben Hom


Re: Getting decals printed

 

I buy my decal paper from Walthers it’s 8 ½ x 11 and fits my decal printer just like a paper sheet.

https://www.walthers.com/decal-paper-8-1-2-x-11-quot-21-6-x-27-9cm-clear-pkg-5

 

Tango Papa also sells decal paper: https://www.tangopapadecals.com/paper.htm

 

 

Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni

 

 

From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
Reply-To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Date: Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 3:31 AM
To: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Getting decals printed

 

Friends,

Kadee is offering a custom decal service: https://www.kadee.com/custom.htm . I have not tried their decals and so cannot comment on their quality.

They also offer blank decal paper: https://www.kadee.com/decals-c-274_325/ . This page also contains various printing options and their set-up charges.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

 

Can anyone recommend a custom decal printer they have had a positive experience with? I've got some HO scale artwork I need to have printed. 

 

TIA, 

 

Marty

 

Marty McGuirk

Gainesville, Va.

 


Re: Getting decals printed

Tim O'Connor
 


Kadee printed decals for our train club. They're ok, but I'll say
that their white lettering is almost invisible on the paper and not
as opaque as you may want it to be.

Tim O'


On 8/1/2019 4:31 AM, Garth Groff wrote:
Friends,

Kadee is offering a custom decal service: https://www.kadee.com/custom.htm . I have not tried their decals and so cannot comment on their quality.

They also offer blank decal paper: https://www.kadee.com/decals-c-274_325/ . This page also contains various printing options and their set-up charges.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff

Can anyone recommend a custom decal printer they have had a positive experience with? I've got some HO scale artwork I need to have printed. 


TIA, 


Marty


Marty McGuirk


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: Getting decals printed

Garth Groff <sarahsan@...>
 

Friends,

Kadee is offering a custom decal service: https://www.kadee.com/custom.htm . I have not tried their decals and so cannot comment on their quality.

They also offer blank decal paper: https://www.kadee.com/decals-c-274_325/ . This page also contains various printing options and their set-up charges.

Yours Aye,


Garth Groff


Can anyone recommend a custom decal printer they have had a positive experience with? I've got some HO scale artwork I need to have printed. 


TIA, 


Marty


Marty McGuirk

Gainesville, Va.



Re: Getting decals printed

 

I bought some of Circus City's decals for the MKT Texas Special locomotives and brass passenger cars. They were wildly inaccurate. Circus City on top, original Hallmark decals on bottom.


Thanks!
--

Brian Ehni


On 7/31/19, 2:16 PM, "Tom in Texas via Groups.Io" <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io on behalf of texpearson=AOL.com@groups.io> wrote:

Circus City


Tom in Texas


Re: Getting decals printed

hubert mask
 

High Ball Graphics.  

Hubert Mask
Mask Island Decals Inc. 


On Jul 31, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Marty McGuirk <mjmcguirk@...> wrote:

Can anyone recommend a custom decal printer they have had a positive experience with? I've got some HO scale artwork I need to have printed. 


TIA, 


Marty


Marty McGuirk

Gainesville, Va.


Re: [External] Re: [RealSTMFC] Getting decals printed

Benjamin Hom
 

Peter Ness wrote:
"I also worked with Bill Brillinger at pda."

Jim Hunter asked:
"For those of us who don't understand the abbreviation  what is PDA?"

It's a typo.  It should be PDC, or Precision Design Co.


Ben Hom


Re: [External] Re: [RealSTMFC] Getting decals printed

naptownprr
 

For those of us who don't understand the abbreviation  what is PDA?,


From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Peter Ness <prness@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 5:49 PM
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Hi Marty,

I also worked with Bill Brillinger at pda.  Artwork and decals are very pleasing, very fast work.  Pricing seemed a bit high, but I had not worked with a manufacturer to make decals for quite a few years, so probably actually competitive pricing…can’t get bread for 5 cents a loaf any more, either…I will work with Bill again for my next needs.

 

Peter Ness

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty McGuirk
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 1:06 PM
To: Proto-Layouts@groups.io; realstmfc@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Getting decals printed

 

Can anyone recommend a custom decal printer they have had a positive experience with? I've got some HO scale artwork I need to have printed. 

 

TIA, 

 

Marty

 

Marty McGuirk

Gainesville, Va.


Re: P&LE gons, and nice ingot mold loads

Tim O'Connor
 

GYPSUM or TRANSCO running board on Rock Island 25189? :-)

Built by Pullman Standard in 1946, just three years old here.

Tim O'

On 7/31/2019 12:30 PM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD wrote:
Gang;

Nice P&LE gon shot. These are the big ingot molds they used at USS Homestead:

https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A8223.1292.RR/from_search/073e3079268f9048485fa504df4f84f5-990

I think the RIX molds are similar. I remember the new molds being shipped in were a combo of black, new rust and mold release white, in color.

Elden Gatwood
--
*Tim O'Connor*
*Sterling, Massachusetts*


Re: Getting decals printed

Tim O'Connor
 


cdc.ca - Bill Brillinger - received my decals 3 days after I ordered them

cartograf - high quality printer recommended by Ted Culotta





On 7/31/2019 1:06 PM, Marty McGuirk wrote:

Can anyone recommend a custom decal printer they have had a positive experience with? I've got some HO scale artwork I need to have printed. 


TIA, 


Marty


Marty McGuirk

Gainesville, Va.


--
Tim O'Connor
Sterling, Massachusetts


Re: PRR GR and LS&MS gons on the MRY c.1910-11

Paul Woods <paul@...>
 

Good find, Elden - thanks for the heads-up.

From CASO freight car roster for NYC: LS&MS gon #38558 was part of lot LS-79 built by Pressed Steel 1904, 1000 cars LS&MS #'s 38000-38999 in the period 1904-1922, with renumbering going on from 1916 to NYC #'s 326000-326999, apparently retired by 1935.

Regards
Paul


Re: Getting decals printed

Peter Ness
 

Hi Marty,

I also worked with Bill Brillinger at pda.  Artwork and decals are very pleasing, very fast work.  Pricing seemed a bit high, but I had not worked with a manufacturer to make decals for quite a few years, so probably actually competitive pricing…can’t get bread for 5 cents a loaf any more, either…I will work with Bill again for my next needs.

 

Peter Ness

 

From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Marty McGuirk
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2019 1:06 PM
To: Proto-Layouts@groups.io; realstmfc@groups.io
Subject: [RealSTMFC] Getting decals printed

 

Can anyone recommend a custom decal printer they have had a positive experience with? I've got some HO scale artwork I need to have printed. 

 

TIA, 

 

Marty

 

Marty McGuirk

Gainesville, Va.


Re: Getting decals printed

Marty McGuirk
 

Hi Jack,
For one item -Central Vermont MofW decals - I’d look at doing multiple sheets since some other CV modelers might be interested.

I also want to get a few sets of CV pre-war steam locomotive decals - just for my own use and a single sheet would be more than enough. 
Marty


On Jul 31, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Gene Deimling <proto48@...> wrote:

Marty
I have been pleased a company In Canada.  Here is a link to their website.  

They use a laser printer and do white.  

Here is a link to a post I did on their product. 

Gene Deimling


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Gene Deimling
El Dorado Hills, CA


Re: and have you ever seen a Chicago, Milwaukee & Puget Sound boxcar?

Donald B. Valentine <riverman_vt@...>
 

    Last I knew Clover House had dry transfers for that ACL ventilated boxcar. Can't
think of any for the Puget Sound car.

Cordially, Don Valentine


Westy USRA 40-ton Double Sheathed boxcar as SP&S: Part 3

Bill Welch
 

Given that this SP&S model is only second USRA 40-ton example I have built and it was 20+ years since I built that M&StL car, so I spent extra time studying the photo I have of SP&S 10044. The Westerfield kit is one of his early offerings and is very good and the only thing I saw that varied from the kit is the presence of fascia boards along the top edge of the sides butted against the underside edge of the roof. I used .010 x .040 styrene strip to model these. Note that I built in a little damage and used small bits of .005 to shim the boards as if they have warped slightly.                                                                                                            

As I continued to examine the photo I thought I detected that the metal cladding the roof is bent over its edges, partially covering the fascia boards along the top edges of the sides. For confirmation I decided to consult Dennis Storzek since through years I have found his insights into freight car construction to be very helpful and accurate. His return message included the attached illustration of the “National Flexible Outside Metal Roof for Boxcar” (also known as a Murphy roof) that clearly shows the metal bending over the edge of the roof.

Since I have built the roof as a separate assembly it was easy to attach a piece of 0.005-styrene to each edge. I cut it to a width that would leave some of the fascia boards visible. After the CA had cured I used the handle of a small paint brush to burnish the edge of the styrene against the edge of the roof, then sanded this edge with some #600 grit sandpaper, all ii an attempt to make this joint appear like the bent edge of metal. Admittedly it will be hard to tell if this worked until the model is painted.

Another detail clearly revealed in the 10044 photo is the presence of metal flashing over the doors. I think this may have been applied by the SP&S. This was easy to make with .005-styrene sheet.

Questions? Let me know.

Bill Welch

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