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Re: Drawing Help
csxt5555
Thanks soo much
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On Aug 2, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Eric Bergh <ericbergh2@...> wrote:
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Original old ORER's for sale!
proto48er
I have the following original Official Railway Equipment Registers for sale:
February 1897 in very good condition for its age (122 years old). $250.00 November 1902 in very good condition, except that a triangular piece of the cover has been torn off $225.00 August 1904 in excellent condition $225.00 All three of these ORERs are complete and all pages are in excellent, almost "like new," condition! They were part of the AT&SF set in the Chicago office. There is a lot of interesting information in these books. Many of the railroad entries have only L-W-H information and car numbers, but some have complete measurements for each number series of car like the later ORERs. PM me if interested. Thanks! A.T. Kott
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Re: Another HD flat
From Palomar Observatory document …
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"On March 26, 1936, the mirror blank began its 16-day trip by rail from Corning to the Caltech optical shop in Pasadena. The telescope project captured the public’s imagination, and all across the country thousands of people lined the train tracks to watch it pass.” It was shipped on NYC well-flat No. 499010. Many photos of this movement can be found online. The glass blank did arrive in Pasadena and went to Caltech optical shop. It stayed there for a couple years while the mirror was ground and polished. The completed mirror was then trucked up the mountain to its present location at the observatory. The whole story can be found by searching at Caltech-Palomar and the Corning Glass Works. The mechanical parts of the telescope mount were shipped through he Panama Canal to the west coast. They were much bigger and heavier than the mirror. This 200” telescope remained the largest in the world for many years. Though now surpassed, it’s still a respectable instrument today. Dan Mitchell ==========
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Re: Drawing Help
Here ya go... Hope this helps, -Eric
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Drawing Help
csxt5555
Does anyone have a copy of the September 78 model railroader magazine handy? I have it but am moving and it’s packed away in a box somewhere. I desperately need a copy of the scale 44 tonner drawings. Can anyone copy and email me the drawings in scale? Need for a project ASAP.
Thanks so much in advance Kevin Sprayberry csxt5555@...
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Re: Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051
Doug Polinder
Tom, I think the line from North Van to Squamish along Howe Sound was completed in 1955. A 1970s article in a Carstens pub (Railfan & Railroad, most likely) also described the furor when PGE started bulldozing gardens and filling in swimming pools.
Doug Polinder Poquoson VA
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Re: Another HD flat
Sorry! It’s probably true that many of the USERS of such large machines were also in the industrial east, but not ALL. Some HAD to go “out in interchange” … or be transferred from one car to another (unlikely). There were only a few places in the country where such things could be made, and they had to be shipped to wherever they were needed.
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The huge items needed for the Manhattan Project (“Jumbo"), and the Palomar 200” telescope mirror being good examples of huge items being moved most of the way across the country. Not to mention the big battleship guns … these things moved back and forth across the country before, and during WWII; and for some time after. These things had short service lives and had to be relined. Most all the big 16”-gunned battleships were in the Pacific, and the only yard that could reline their guns was on the east coast. Such movements from Washington State and California to the east and back were common. Dan Mitchell ==========
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Re: Gondolas converted into TOFC cars
dale florence <dwwesley@...>
Tim, I have one question, do you know the date these cars built, or rebuilt? Dale Florence
On Friday, August 2, 2019, 10:21:11 AM EDT, dale florence via Groups.Io <dwwesley@...> wrote:
Tim, Thank you for the R. I. Gondola TOFC Cars. I am guessing that the car you built was from a Tichey war emergency car. Looks very good. Thanks for the pictures Dale Florence
On Friday, August 2, 2019, 10:15:59 AM EDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
On 8/1/2019 10:35 PM, dale florence
via Groups.Io wrote:
Does anyone have information on Gondolas
that were converted into TOFC cars, or pictures, from the
early 1950's.. I want to build some, but cannot find
information, or pictures.
Dale Florence
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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RPM Chicagoland 2019
Jeremy Dummler
The 26th annual RPM Chicagoland event will be held October 24-26th at the Sheraton hotel in Lisle, IL. The event will once again feature three days of clinics on a variety of model railroad topics, a display room for your models, vendors, and friends. These events are always a chance to learn new things and share the hobby. Registration is now open at rpmconference.com. Hotel reservations for the RPM Chicagoland room block can also be accessed through the website as well. Jeremy Dummler RPM Chicagoland Team Wauconda, IL
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Re: Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051
Tom Madden
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 11:20 AM, Doug Polinder wrote:
There are lots of pulp mills in Prince George, so a good possibility this was going via PGE through North Vancouver.The OP said it's a 1956 photo. When did PGE complete the line to North Vancouver? I remember a TRAINS article from the late '50s - early '60s regarding the hullabaloo that ensued when PGE decided to complete the line to N.V., disturbing a number of adjacent residents whose construction had encroached on what they assumed was an abandoned ROW. Tom Madden
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Re: Gondolas converted into TOFC cars
My all-time favorite. A Jack Beal photo.
Thanks!
From: <main@RealSTMFC.groups.io> on behalf of Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...>
On 8/1/2019 10:35 PM, dale florence via Groups.Io wrote:
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Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051
Doug Polinder
Tony, couple of possibilities. The yard in Vancouver is not identified. Walter Frost took pictures in various yards belonging to CN, CP, and GN. If this is a CP yard, the load could have traveled via Milwaukee to Seattle and then via their own rail-barge to Bellingham, thence to Sumas WA/Huntingdon BC for interchange with the CP. Or it could have traveled to Seattle and been barged directly to Vancouver for interchange with CP, CN, or PGE. If a GN yard, then GN may have picked it up in St. Paul and taken it all the way to Vancouver on GN rails (the Hill Lines generally forced the Milwaukee to interchange in St. Paul).
There are lots of pulp mills in Prince George, so a good possibility this was going via PGE through North Vancouver. Doug Polinder Poquoson VA
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Mark Vaughan decal listing
Clark Propst
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Re: Another HD flat CB&Q
Jerome (Jerry) Albin
The load looks to be 1/2 half of a hot or cold steel rolling mill stand. Two castings are shown making one stand of a steel rolling mill. The screw down machinery on top of the stand is added later. Regards..Jerry Albin
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat CB&Q
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
VERY cool!
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Growing up in Pittsburgh, you were besieged by the cacophony of noise, air pollutants, and smells you would never get away with now. Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel A. Mitchell Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 12:04 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat CB&Q Just a guess, but I’m slightly familiar with these machines … my dad worked for Ring Screw Works in Detroit. He took me there a few times to see where he worked. They had a bunch of cold-headers, including several very large machines. These beasts were buried in pits in the floor, and each time they’d strike they'd shake the whole neighborhood. Literally! Dan Mitchell ========== On Aug 2, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:
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Re: Another HD flat
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
I have seen others like this, that were for creating things like large mill rolls, flywheels, and such. They didn't use regular molds for these ingots, but made up special breakable molds, once poured a cooled, were broken to release the ingot.
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These did not go out in interchange; I never saw one on somebody else's rails. Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Soderblom Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 12:21 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat It says it’s an ingot, but it looks rough, like concrete. And why the asymmetric shape? David Soderblom Baltimore MD USA drs@stsci.edu
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Re: Another HD flat
David Soderblom
It says it’s an ingot, but it looks rough, like concrete. And why the asymmetric shape?
David Soderblom Baltimore MD USA drs@stsci.edu
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Re: Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051
David Soderblom
Would a large load like this have been included in a regular train, or would it have required it’s own engine and caboose?
David Soderblom Baltimore MD USA drs@stsci.edu
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Re: Another HD flat CB&Q
David Soderblom
Their symmetry also suggests something to do with a very large magnet.
David Soderblom Baltimore MD USA drs@stsci.edu
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat CB&Q
Just a guess, but I’m slightly familiar with these machines … my dad worked for Ring Screw Works in Detroit. He took me there a few times to see where he worked. They had a bunch of cold-headers, including several very large machines. These beasts were buried in pits in the floor, and each time they’d strike they'd shake the whole neighborhood. Literally!
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Dan Mitchell ==========
On Aug 2, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:
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