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Re: Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051
Doug Polinder
Tony, couple of possibilities. The yard in Vancouver is not identified. Walter Frost took pictures in various yards belonging to CN, CP, and GN. If this is a CP yard, the load could have traveled via Milwaukee to Seattle and then via their own rail-barge to Bellingham, thence to Sumas WA/Huntingdon BC for interchange with the CP. Or it could have traveled to Seattle and been barged directly to Vancouver for interchange with CP, CN, or PGE. If a GN yard, then GN may have picked it up in St. Paul and taken it all the way to Vancouver on GN rails (the Hill Lines generally forced the Milwaukee to interchange in St. Paul).
There are lots of pulp mills in Prince George, so a good possibility this was going via PGE through North Vancouver. Doug Polinder Poquoson VA
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Mark Vaughan decal listing
Clark Propst
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Re: Another HD flat CB&Q
Jerome (Jerry) Albin
The load looks to be 1/2 half of a hot or cold steel rolling mill stand. Two castings are shown making one stand of a steel rolling mill. The screw down machinery on top of the stand is added later. Regards..Jerry Albin
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat CB&Q
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
VERY cool!
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Growing up in Pittsburgh, you were besieged by the cacophony of noise, air pollutants, and smells you would never get away with now. Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel A. Mitchell Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 12:04 PM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat CB&Q Just a guess, but I’m slightly familiar with these machines … my dad worked for Ring Screw Works in Detroit. He took me there a few times to see where he worked. They had a bunch of cold-headers, including several very large machines. These beasts were buried in pits in the floor, and each time they’d strike they'd shake the whole neighborhood. Literally! Dan Mitchell ========== On Aug 2, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:
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Re: Another HD flat
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
I have seen others like this, that were for creating things like large mill rolls, flywheels, and such. They didn't use regular molds for these ingots, but made up special breakable molds, once poured a cooled, were broken to release the ingot.
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These did not go out in interchange; I never saw one on somebody else's rails. Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Soderblom Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 12:21 PM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat It says it’s an ingot, but it looks rough, like concrete. And why the asymmetric shape? David Soderblom Baltimore MD USA drs@stsci.edu
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Re: Another HD flat
David Soderblom
It says it’s an ingot, but it looks rough, like concrete. And why the asymmetric shape?
David Soderblom Baltimore MD USA drs@stsci.edu
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Re: Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051
David Soderblom
Would a large load like this have been included in a regular train, or would it have required it’s own engine and caboose?
David Soderblom Baltimore MD USA drs@stsci.edu
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Re: Another HD flat CB&Q
David Soderblom
Their symmetry also suggests something to do with a very large magnet.
David Soderblom Baltimore MD USA drs@stsci.edu
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat CB&Q
Just a guess, but I’m slightly familiar with these machines … my dad worked for Ring Screw Works in Detroit. He took me there a few times to see where he worked. They had a bunch of cold-headers, including several very large machines. These beasts were buried in pits in the floor, and each time they’d strike they'd shake the whole neighborhood. Literally!
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On Aug 2, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:
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Re: Gondolas converted into TOFC cars
Richard Townsend
The CB&Q converted some composite 40’ gons to TOFC service and they were quite unsuccessful. The Burlington Route Historical Society has a “data sheet” (#12) that has a photo.
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On Aug 2, 2019, at 8:21 AM, dale florence via Groups.Io <dwwesley@...> wrote:
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Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat CB&Q
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Dan;
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Good guess! That could be it. Elden Gatwood
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From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Daniel A. Mitchell Sent: Friday, August 2, 2019 10:44 AM To: main@realstmfc.groups.io Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [RealSTMFC] Another HD flat CB&Q Could be frames for cold-heading (forging) machines. Dan MItchell ========== On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:
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Re: Another HD flat CB&Q
Could be frames for cold-heading (forging) machines.
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On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:06 AM, Gatwood, Elden J SAD <elden.j.gatwood@usace.army.mil> wrote:
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Re: Gondolas converted into TOFC cars
dale florence <dwwesley@...>
Tim, Thank you for the R. I. Gondola TOFC Cars. I am guessing that the car you built was from a Tichey war emergency car. Looks very good. Thanks for the pictures Dale Florence
On Friday, August 2, 2019, 10:15:59 AM EDT, Tim O'Connor <timboconnor@...> wrote:
On 8/1/2019 10:35 PM, dale florence
via Groups.Io wrote:
Does anyone have information on Gondolas
that were converted into TOFC cars, or pictures, from the
early 1950's.. I want to build some, but cannot find
information, or pictures.
Dale Florence
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Gondolas converted into TOFC cars
On 8/1/2019 10:35 PM, dale florence
via Groups.Io wrote:
-- Tim O'Connor Sterling, Massachusetts
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Re: Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051
espee4441
What route did this take to get to Vancouver? If it went MILW all the way then crossing the border at Sumas, Wa is the only option. Hard time seeing this being the case. Pulp digester makes more sense for the area around here, I wonder if this was trans-loaded onto a barge in Van. or made it all the way to final destination by rail.
That's one photo I really like, many thanks to you Bob for finding this. Tony Pawley
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Another HD flat
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
One of my favorites, stubby Carnegie-Illinois Steel (USSteel), with a whopping big ingot - Homestead Works, 1946
https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A943.46974.GN/from_search/073e3079268f9048485fa504df4f84f5-1821 Elden Gatwood
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Re: Photo: Heavy Duty Milwaukee Road Flat Car 601051
A "pulp digester" according to my notes.
On 8/1/2019 3:33 PM, Bob Chaparro via Groups.Io wrote:
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Another HD flat CB&Q
Gatwood, Elden J SAD
Found another photo of a GSC HD flat car, with an outbound load at Mesta Machine 1959:
https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A8223.6270.RR/from_search/073e3079268f9048485fa504df4f84f5-1650 https://historicpittsburgh.org/islandora/object/pitt%3A8223.6270.RR/viewer Any idea who the load was for? They look like bodies for HD shears. Thanks! Elden Gatwood
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Gondolas converted into TOFC cars
dale florence <dwwesley@...>
:Does anyone have information on Gondolas that were converted into TOFC cars, or pictures, from the early 1950's.. I want to build some, but cannot find information, or pictures. Dale Florence
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Re: P&LE gons, and nice ingot mold loads
brianleppert@att.net
Tim O'Connor wrote "GYPSUM or TRANSCO running board on Rock Island 25189?"
And isn't that a Morton lateral r.b.? Brian Leppert Carson City, NV
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